Paris terrorist attacks, 100+ fatalities (November 2015)
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^^^ wow look at the comments on youtube for that band video. a bunch of white kids defending Islam.
'now's a time for mourning, don't turn this into a political argument'.
'what a tragedy, we need to support eachother'.
no anger, no call for change. just complete submission and pussification. I can't believe people are this fucking dumb. Even kids with down syndrome will fight back, but not your highly educated millennial liberal!
'now's a time for mourning, don't turn this into a political argument'.
'what a tragedy, we need to support eachother'.
no anger, no call for change. just complete submission and pussification. I can't believe people are this fucking dumb. Even kids with down syndrome will fight back, but not your highly educated millennial liberal!
Someone may have mentioned this, but I didn't see it.
It's Obama's Shock and Awe retaliation strategy for the Paris attack. Take this you bitch ass terrorists:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...imate-summit-will-powerful-rebuke-terrorists/
That's right. Obama has proclaimed this climate change summit a "Powerful Rebuke" to the terrorists.
Someone pinch me. Am I dreaming? Do I still live on planet earth?
It's Obama's Shock and Awe retaliation strategy for the Paris attack. Take this you bitch ass terrorists:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...imate-summit-will-powerful-rebuke-terrorists/
That's right. Obama has proclaimed this climate change summit a "Powerful Rebuke" to the terrorists.
Someone pinch me. Am I dreaming? Do I still live on planet earth?
robreke said:
That's their right-wing spin on it. This is why you can't trust biased media sources. I saw the speech in its entirety. Anyone that actually listened to the speech beginning to end without it being filtered though sources like Breitbart wouldn't have come to such an inane conclusion. You'd have to be a real wing-nut to come to the conclusion they did. This isn't me being pro-Obama I'm just telling you that as someone who listened to the entire thing. Especially when spent about half an hour talking about how we will be coordinating with France to fight against ISIS. Brietbart cherry picks one quote out of context to give their audience the red meat they want. I don't care if you like Obama or not, but at least learn the critical thinking skills to know when you're being intentionally manipulated by media.
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^ "coordinating attacks" = dropping leaflets and giving them up to 1 hour before bombing.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/17/world/middleeast/us-strikes-syria-oil.html?_r=0
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ilian-truck-drivers-45-minutes-airstrike.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/17/world/middleeast/us-strikes-syria-oil.html?_r=0
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ilian-truck-drivers-45-minutes-airstrike.html
speakeasy said:
I didn't watch the full event, I admit. I don't have time for that. I may check out a bit more because of your comments.
I did watch two excerpts from it including the quote about it being a Powerful Rebuke. I stand that Obama is a joke and this comment of his is also. It's also the manner in which he speaks of the terrorists; there's no conviction, no passion, no anger. I don't expect the POTUS to lose his shit of course, but some kind of righteous indignation would be nice.
Anyone who's been keeping up with this guy can see these terrorist attacks appear to be an annoyance, a distraction to him. Something he's got to reluctantly deal with while he's pushing his broader and in his mind, more important, agenda.
Of course he talked about what the US is going to do to assist France against ISIS at the summit. The attack just happened and the summit was in Paris, where it happened. He had to pay lip service here. I'll wager Obama won't do any more than what is pretty much minimally required in helping France against ISIS. He'll only implement that which is needed to quell the fears and concerns of Americans and show that he's "serious" about combating terrorism.
He's got bigger fish to fry, such as Climate change, pushing the supreme court to prevent there being a moratorium on letting in muslim refugees ( we can't have reactionary backlash against muslim refugees, even after the attacks now) etc.
And finally the actual quote itself: "What a Powerful rebuke it will be to the terrorists it will be, when the world stands as one and shows that we will not be deterred from building a better future for our children"
It's always about the children, isn't it? I think leftists think this utterance trumps everything because who could argue about helping or building a better future for "the children."
It's just weak and a rather unrealistic , ineffective message to send to the Islamic fanatics. It's no rebuke to those who understand only steel, blood and death. If anything, they're laughing at this statement. My original assertion stands.
By the way, I'll take breitbart and a few other "right wing sources" over CNN, which I watch, and many of the major networks, any day.
I usually pick up when I'm being manipulated by the media or they're attempting it. I don't think this was such a time.
Parzival
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There is a nice article about the rise of surveillance and that the authorities are not willing or not able to use the information they already have. Even more, the planer of the attackers gave Dabiq - the Magazine of Dash an interview what he has in mind and how easy it is to fool western governments:
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/...le-ausweitung-der-ueberwachung-a-1064508.html
The interview is from february. Abdelhamid Abaaoud say, it was very easy for him to get to Belgium from Syria. Even when 150 soldiers storm his apartment but he had long gone. He claims the government did know him, they know his face, they know about his plans and still nothing happen to him.
Furthermore he say, muslims don't have to fear the fake lies of surveillance because the authorities will do nothing because they are to stupid.
They can not catch the people that they claim to observe, can not claim those people that are fanatics with direct plans for attacks.
This is also what the article say, the government did observe those people, still they cry for more surveillance.
Those terrorist used non scripted messengers, but the government want to track down scripted messengers.
So its the same game again, the government know those people, it knows they are fanatic, it knows they want to commit attacks and still do nothing. At the end they cry for more surveillance. It even doesn't help that the terrorist can relay their plans in their own magazine ahead, still our western authorities will let it happen.
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/...le-ausweitung-der-ueberwachung-a-1064508.html
The interview is from february. Abdelhamid Abaaoud say, it was very easy for him to get to Belgium from Syria. Even when 150 soldiers storm his apartment but he had long gone. He claims the government did know him, they know his face, they know about his plans and still nothing happen to him.
Furthermore he say, muslims don't have to fear the fake lies of surveillance because the authorities will do nothing because they are to stupid.
They can not catch the people that they claim to observe, can not claim those people that are fanatics with direct plans for attacks.
This is also what the article say, the government did observe those people, still they cry for more surveillance.
Those terrorist used non scripted messengers, but the government want to track down scripted messengers.
So its the same game again, the government know those people, it knows they are fanatic, it knows they want to commit attacks and still do nothing. At the end they cry for more surveillance. It even doesn't help that the terrorist can relay their plans in their own magazine ahead, still our western authorities will let it happen.
speakeasy said:
Here's my take;
Obama spoke frankly about terrorism that's impressive for his normal demeanor on the subject. He came off very middle of the road American for once. In the same turn, while stating some specific actions against IS in the near future, he equivocated and fence road on Islamic extremism as usual. He took a more hardline stance in a minor way at times, but the submissive demeanor remained typical. I wasn't impressed and still left with the conclusion that these people would rather pit western powers against each other in various struggles than erase IS, though easily doable.
A while back, Dalaran posted in this thread that all the dudes he knows in Paris just want life to get back to normal, and none of them seem possessed by a righteous anger and desire for revenge. I noted that this was shameful if true, and that the reaction in the US after September 11, 2001 was completely different: untold numbers of Americans (including guys I knew personally) changed their lives and joined the military, or other government services, to help prosecute the tasks of the hour.
Today, this article in the NY Times suggests that, in fact, much the same thing is happening all over France. Thousands and thousands of Frenchmen are joining the military in unprecedented numbers because they want to fight back, and they want to protect and avenge their country:
Paris Attacks Have Many in France Eager to Join the Fight
There's a lot more in the article, which I suggest you read. There are also some good images of young French dudes who are joining the military:
This guy needs some tips on pullup form but he's getting there:
Maybe the French have a little more in them than just candlelight vigils, after all; and maybe you don't need to be a religious fanatic or driven by some other demented ideology to want to protect your country and fight back against scum who are blowing up your pals and your pussy prospects.
Today, this article in the NY Times suggests that, in fact, much the same thing is happening all over France. Thousands and thousands of Frenchmen are joining the military in unprecedented numbers because they want to fight back, and they want to protect and avenge their country:
Paris Attacks Have Many in France Eager to Join the Fight
There's a lot more in the article, which I suggest you read. There are also some good images of young French dudes who are joining the military:
This guy needs some tips on pullup form but he's getting there:
Maybe the French have a little more in them than just candlelight vigils, after all; and maybe you don't need to be a religious fanatic or driven by some other demented ideology to want to protect your country and fight back against scum who are blowing up your pals and your pussy prospects.
What they're doing is admirable but totally pointless. They will join the army and the army commanded by traitors and cucks will send them to help the Al Nusra Front, Free Syrian Army or any of the moderate beheaders. They would have much more of an impact just by staying home to get rid of their domestic traitors.
Heck, just sparing 5 minutes in December to vote for Front Nationale would have more of an impact.
Heck, just sparing 5 minutes in December to vote for Front Nationale would have more of an impact.
Handsome Creepy Eel said:
Precisely. They are enlisting to fight for the right of all the world's scum to come to France unimpeded. If a real resistance to the invasion ever begins to grow among the French people on a grassroots level, they will be asked to crush it with extreme prejudice for the benefit of the very Islamists they are ostensibly joining the army to protect France from.
So no, this is not a good sign. This is a pathetic reminder of just how completely the elite controls the people. The traitors imported millions of thugs and terrorists into France. And what is the response of the French? To huff and puff and volunteer to serve as the traitors' cannon fodder. Slap me and I'll suck your cock harder.
I am frankly losing all empathy for "my" people. The more I see events develop, the harder it is for me not to look at them all as subhumans, incapable of normal human agency. As long as 2 years ago I thought I had already reached the absolute depths of cynicism but the last 6 months have proved me wrong.
HCE, I don't think it's pointless. It's true, of course, that the flow of Muslim migrants into Europe should be stopped; and that any political leadership unwilling to stop it should be replaced. But it's also true that the Islamic State should be destroyed, its leaders killed or captured, and its army, such as it is, smashed to pieces. That is both necessary and easily achievable if the Western powers got at all serious. In fact, the French alone could do it if they so decided and it would not be very difficult.
Beyond that, I don't want to get into an endless political discussion. My point in posting the article was to show that the French men of today, and the younger generation in particular, are not simply a bunch of candle holding surrender monkeys as they are sometimes caricatured to be. They have plenty of fighting spirit, and I have no doubt that when needed they will make much better soldiers than the Islamic "warriors" they're up against (who, incidentally, are legendarily bad and worthless soldiers). And it further shows that it is not necessary for a country or a society to be whipped into a religious or ideological frenzy for its men to be willing and able to stand up for their values, their way of life, and their pussy.
Beyond that, I don't want to get into an endless political discussion. My point in posting the article was to show that the French men of today, and the younger generation in particular, are not simply a bunch of candle holding surrender monkeys as they are sometimes caricatured to be. They have plenty of fighting spirit, and I have no doubt that when needed they will make much better soldiers than the Islamic "warriors" they're up against (who, incidentally, are legendarily bad and worthless soldiers). And it further shows that it is not necessary for a country or a society to be whipped into a religious or ideological frenzy for its men to be willing and able to stand up for their values, their way of life, and their pussy.
Handsome Creepy Eel said:
Why would you say that? Not every young European man is a suicidal fool. Many of them know that civil war is coming, either consciously or instinctively. A soldier doesn't forget how to fight if his allegiance or the direction of his gun changes. If the enemy offers you a gun and training, you smile, say thanks, and wait. Worked for al qaeda. If they're lucky they might end up under a General Franco, and their people will survive to see another century.
"Let's go fight for France in the middle east while our government just buses in terrorists straight into our city centres!"
I admire their fighting spirit but I agree with Fast Eddie and HCE, its not exactly the most effective way to actually combat terrorism, to put it mildly. It can be argued it's not completely pointless but I doubt they're doing it just to gain fighting experience they can use to fight battles at home. I don't think they have thought that far ahead.
I saw a young guy I know from playing football with who used to be in the Navy post a FB status about signing up and fighting again after the terrorist attacks. The guy is bit of a white knight (once got offended and angry at me for making a sexist joke, while the rest of my football team just smirked at me and tried not to laugh too much) and like most people, he isn't politically aware, so I guess he just feels angry and just wants to sign up again and fight terrorism. I guess there are people like this in France as well, I would guess they're mainly just young guys between 16-22 who want to do something to help.
It is good to see reports that they're not all pathetic and weak though.
I admire their fighting spirit but I agree with Fast Eddie and HCE, its not exactly the most effective way to actually combat terrorism, to put it mildly. It can be argued it's not completely pointless but I doubt they're doing it just to gain fighting experience they can use to fight battles at home. I don't think they have thought that far ahead.
I saw a young guy I know from playing football with who used to be in the Navy post a FB status about signing up and fighting again after the terrorist attacks. The guy is bit of a white knight (once got offended and angry at me for making a sexist joke, while the rest of my football team just smirked at me and tried not to laugh too much) and like most people, he isn't politically aware, so I guess he just feels angry and just wants to sign up again and fight terrorism. I guess there are people like this in France as well, I would guess they're mainly just young guys between 16-22 who want to do something to help.
It is good to see reports that they're not all pathetic and weak though.
More young men in the military can never be bad. You learn something there, turn boys into men, weens them off mom's tit (nanny state) and last but not least learns to shoot and fight.
I do feel that joining the various national militias is a better idea, don't know if France has such, but several countries have them, leftover from the Cold War where in the case of a Sovjet military victory you'd have militias to fight guerilla. They used to have guns at home too, but leftists dearmed them partially.
I do feel that joining the various national militias is a better idea, don't know if France has such, but several countries have them, leftover from the Cold War where in the case of a Sovjet military victory you'd have militias to fight guerilla. They used to have guns at home too, but leftists dearmed them partially.
I came across this video today that I found really interesting. Details the fight between Hezbollah and ISIS, as well as getting perspectives from Christians in the region.
The video is a year old but still very relevant to anyone who hasn't seen it.
They managed to interview a Hezbollah soldier and he talks about finding tens of thousands of methamphetamine pills when they overrun a Daesh-held base. Apparently the ISIS fighters just get blasted out of their minds on meth before going into battle.
The video is a year old but still very relevant to anyone who hasn't seen it.
They managed to interview a Hezbollah soldier and he talks about finding tens of thousands of methamphetamine pills when they overrun a Daesh-held base. Apparently the ISIS fighters just get blasted out of their minds on meth before going into battle.
SigmundSauer
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800 shotguns found in Trieste, Italy headed for Belgium.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/26/us-italy-crime-shotguns-belgium-idUSKBN0TF1SV20151126
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/26/us-italy-crime-shotguns-belgium-idUSKBN0TF1SV20151126
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