Parler thread

budoslavic

Owl
Gold Member
Newsweek came out with an article about Parler, "Who Owns Parler? Social Media Platform Offers Safe Space for the Far Right" a few days ago.
Social network Parler is pitched as a free speech-focused alternative to Facebook and Twitter—and it is increasingly being adopted by the far right.

Since its founding in 2018 by two men based in Henderson, Nevada—John Matze and Jared Thomson—the platform is now attracting a variety of right-wing commentators, politicians and Donald Trump supporters, while also providing a safe haven for anyone too extreme, racist or offensive for Facebook, Twitter or Instagram.

Like Gab before it, Parler is filled with the posts of those who have been removed or suspended from mainstream social platforms for violating their guidelines.

It describes itself as a "free speech driven entity" and claims not to share data with third parties, saying: "We are not regulators. We are not governors. We are a community. Parler accepts your right to express your thoughts, opinions and ideals online."

Matze and Thomson said they created the platform after becoming "exhausted with a lack of transparency in big tech [and] ideological suppresssion."

This week, chatter about Parler spiked after a meme-maker whose content was shared by president Trump last week was suspended from Twitter for copyright violations.

On Tuesday, Twitter flagged one of the president's posts for abusive behavior after previously hiding a tweet for breaking its rules on "glorifying violence."

The incidents were cited by some Twitter users as motivation for moving to Parler, which had already become the social media home of far right commentator Katie Hopkins after she was booted from the Jack Dorsey-led website last Friday.

Hopkins is far from alone on Parler, which prominently advertises users including Eric Trump, Laura Loomer and Rudy Giuliani. They are jointed by Brad Parscale, Milo Yiannopolous, Gavin McInnes, Brad Parscale, Alex Jones, Tommy Robinson and Jacob Wohl. Devin Nunes has been repeatedly promoting Parler on Twitter this week.

Spearheaded by Parscale, Trump's 2020 re-election campaign has an account under the handle Team Trump, although the president himself is absent for now.

Many of the bigger profiles appear to have significant audiences. Loomer, for example, boasts 341,000 followers, Eric Trump has 396,000, while Giuliani has 322,000.

According to Forbes, the platform claims to have more than one million users. Parler did not respond to a request for comment from Newsweek asking for statistics.

The layout of Parler is similar to Twitter, using "echoes" instead of retweets and letting other accounts tip or "upvote" posts they like, much like Reddit's comment section. A variety of popular hashtags is seen in the top corner of the main page.

When signing up, Newsweek was given the option of personalizing a profile by following websites including Breitbart News, The Epoch Times and the Daily Caller.

Who owns and runs Parler?

According to his LinkedIn page, Parler co-founder Matze has a background in software engineering, including a three month stint at Amazon Web Services in 2017. Matze has a degree in computer science from the University of Denver, the profile says.

Thomson, who is listed as the chief technology officer and backend software engineer at Parler, worked at CarePICS between 2016 and 2018, after three months at a firm called Travelport. He too has a University of Denver computer science degree.

It remains unclear how Parler will enforce its own community guidelines, which say that accounts could be terminated for copyright infringement, for example.

Users must agree to avoid spamming, support for terrorist organizations, unsolicited ads, defamation, threats to harm, blackmail, porn, obscenity, intellectual property theft, doxxing, criminal solicitation and plagiarism, according to the guidelines.

"Parler may remove any content and terminate your access to the services at any time and for any reason or no reason, although Parler endeavors to allow all free speech that is lawful and does not infringe the legal rights of others," the rules say.

For now, it remains to be seen how strict enforcement will be, or if the account holders will adhere to similar rules they previously violated on mainstream platforms.

It seems unlikely the platform's owners will take a similar approach to enforcement as Facebook or Twitter, however. Recently the company released a "Declaration of Internet Independence," urging people to abandon Twitter using the hashtag #Twexit.

An open letter fumed: "Twitter once pledged to be a public square, where all peaceful voices were promised respect and equal right to be heard."

"The people propelled Twitter to a position of great prominence. But absolute power corrupts absolutely. And Twitter has proven no different... they are now merely a publisher. And a bad, biased publisher at that. They have become a tech tyrant, stepping on our freedoms to push their agenda driven narrative," it added.

This week, responding to media criticism of the platform, Matze praised coverage from Infowars, the conspiracy-fueled site spearheaded by radio host Alex Jones.

Matze wrote: "I'm not... upset by their fake news. This is a sign that we the freedom loving people are winning. We are winning because they are resorting to throwing a tantrum because those they politically disagree with have a voice again."

According to the App Store, Parler is currently the second most popular download in the News category. It has more than 100,000 downloads via the Google Play Store.

 

Rob Banks

Pelican
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As they say. If we were powerless then their propaganda would not be necessary.
Their propaganda is necessary because if all men became traditional Christian family men, they might pose a threat to the system. But that would require a large percentage of men to actually follow that path.

If a small percentage of men (such as exists on this forum or on platforms such as Parler or Gab) become traditionalists, that is not enough to pose a threat to the system.

Even if millions of men become traditionalist Christians and dissidents, there will be billions who go along with and support Globohomo.

The oligarchs see thr existsnce of right-wing platforms (such as Parler or Roosh V Forum) as a very small price to pay for the vast influence they have through Twitter and the Internet in general.

The oligarchs could probably shut down right-wing sites tomorrow if they wanted to. They choose not to do it because it would bring them bad PR and therefore embolden their enemies.

I believe @ilostabet is on point in his analysis.
 

MeymoonMan

Sparrow
This topic of how to construct a more bulletproof free speech platform is of
interest.



VD has said that many open source entities like Linux have adopted
SJW-influenced codes of conduct. Can poison pills be put in these products or
can they cause legal trouble for people deploying the product to their own
servers who don't conform to their ideology? This isn't a leading question;
it's asked out of ignorance.



And of course, on a local server you have your own internet provider, the
domain registrar, etc. SJWs will attack every link in the chain in their
attempts to stamp out effective free speech.



I'm not clear on who runs Parler. For someone else who mentioned it... Like
Telegram, Parler does require a phone number to sign up, but it doesn't have to
be a mobile number. Just some phone number they can call to give you a code
that you type in during registration. Still, it is another link to you if you
want to remain anonymous.

It's a good question. In my opinion, SJW infiltration of Linux is the least of
our problems. A retarded CoC is harmful to the actual kernel developers, but
the users are unaffected by it. It might make people quit kernel development.
Then the codebase might degrade. Then the users will be affected by it. Then
what? If worse comes to worse, we just switch to one of the other open-source
unix systems (bsd or darwin or seL4 or minix or... urp... GNU Hurd ) and carry
on our day. The linux ecosystem is more threatened by other things. Microsoft
has bought its way into the Linux Foundation (weird, right?), so now they have
a lot of sway in the decisions the foundation makes. Microsoft is handing
paychecks to kernel developers. They're pretending to be really friendly with
open source software and linux, even though their OS still overwrites the
bootloader if it detects you have linux installed (not very friendly). I think
Microsoft is probably just using their good ol' embrace, extend, extinguish
tactics here to try and take open-source software out of the picture. That
would be a very Microsoft thing to do.

Let's say Linux got destroyed by Microsoft, though. What then? Same solution
as before, we'll all just use one of the other open-source unixes. They are
all unix systems, so the user experience will hardly be any different at all.
All the things you learned on linux will be transferrable to any of the other
unixes. The only exception would be kernel-specific things, but few linux
users interact with their kernel directly. So ultimately, I don't think we're
in any sort of danger out here. We have a lot of plan-B's and plan-C's.

As for 'poison pills', do you mean that the kernel developers might lay a trap
somewhere in the code, like some kind of keylogger and text-analysis thing?
And then if you say the wrong thing, the incident gets reported to antifa or
something?

It would be hard to squeeze something like that into the kernel. But if they
did it, people would notice it. And when people notice it, they'd make a stink
about it. And then the people who didn't notice it would hear about it. There
are a lot of forks of the linux kernel out there, btw. There are things like
zen-kernel and the gentoo-kernel and the like, all of which apply their own
patches to the kernel to make it work the way they want it to. The linux
foundation doesn't have a monopoly on the final state of the kernel. My system
runs gentoo's fork of the kernel, not the one the foundation puts out. If any
kind of SJW trap was put into the linux kernel, it would get removed in all of
the forks of the kernel, and then upstream would be pressured into fixing it.

As for SJWs going after your ISP and your domain name in order to take you
down, you're right about that. They absolutely will. That problem is a lot
harder than the social media problem is. Custom DNS exists, but you won't get
normies to use it. Custom ISP don't exist at all though, unless we're talking
about meshnets and the like. Again, normies will never use it.
 

godfather dust

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I don't like the idea of parler being necessary because of the wrongthink on gab. Gab has already shown they are legit with projects like "dissenter."

If people are afraid of gab because of Jew posting, why does it make any sense they wouldn't just stick to Twitter?

Also on page one Roosh shared a post from Paul Joseph Watson about avoiding doxing etc...

They can still do that stuff on Twitter, using your Parler posts as evidence. Don't like the phone # requirement either.
 

Athanasius

Pelican
Roosh: I am very curious about this as well. Forget who it was but Malkin or someone was saying they were seeing huge engagement there. My guess is that Twitter and Google are massively throttling things and/or flat out lying about your subscriber numbers. It's very strange, for example, how various personalities just have about the same usage counts.

Gooz Boos: Great post, helpful to know about all the Unix forks (sounds similar to how VD forked Wikipedia to make Infogalactic). You were on the right track with poison pills-- something like what you said, or calling back to a centralized system and making it so Wrongthink installs don't work any longer. I have wondered how long it'll be until we have social media that work more like blogs and forums, where Roosh's posts are housed on Roosh's server, not on some central site where SJWs can break the search algorithms and deplatform content. Unsure how they make that work, though. Napster comes to mind. The music files were on people's servers, but it was rolled up and knocked out quickly after successful lawsuits (not defending the fact that Napster was mostly piracy, just more of its model and vulnerability to being shut down). I'd be curious to know how an SJW-proof Twitter replacement might work from the standpoint of data storage and how the search functionality would work across all these servers and yet be immune to compromise by SJWs.
 

paninaro

Pelican
Even if Parler's traffic grows by 10 times, it's a long way to even be a small thorn in Twitter's side. I think Twitter/Facebook/Googles' first-mover advantage will be insurmountable (but I hope I'm wrong).

What "first-mover" advantage do Twitter, Facebook, and Google have? Before Twitter there was Tumblr, before Facebook there was MySpace. Before Google, there was Lycos, Altavista, Ask Jeeves, Excite, and Yahoo.

These services are market leaders because they executed well in terms of product and marketing. But the cost to entry to build your own competing product is relatively low because cloud computing resources are cheap. Plenty of room for competition, if you can build a good product and market it well.
 

FullThrottleTX

Woodpecker
If spreading information weren't an effective thing to do, every single corporation, bureaucracy, adjunct, and major media personality wouldn't be putting in so much effort stopping and decrying those who spread information contrary to their narrative.

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Relationships matter more than information. I'm a trained community organizer.

Nobody has a megaphone big enough to take all of the propaganda on...

Cant use the masters tools to dismantle the masters house, in other words...
 
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Bird

Kingfisher
As for SJWs going after your ISP and your domain name in order to take you
down, you're right about that. They absolutely will. That problem is a lot
harder than the social media problem is. Custom DNS exists, but you won't get
normies to use it. Custom ISP don't exist at all though, unless we're talking
about meshnets and the like. Again, normies will never use it.

On the Iceagefarmer website the IP address of the website is published,
so if he got unlisted from the DNS people can still access the website using the IP address:

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However, the missing SSL encryption is a disadvantage.
 

MeymoonMan

Sparrow
On the Iceagefarmer website the IP address of the website is published,
so if he got unlisted from the DNS people can still access the website using the IP address:

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However, the missing SSL encryption is a disadvantage.
Yeah, that's always an option. If you're going that route and you're also self-hosting, you'll have to pay extra for a static IP. And then 99.9999% of people aren't going to remember the IP even if you publish it like that. Hard enough to remember Mom's phone number lol.
 

RexImperator

Crow
Gold Member
Yes it's mostly the neocon/FoxNews friendly type of conservative on Parler that will own the Dems.
Yeah I’ve heard Parler promoted on War Room by Raheem Kassan, who said Gab had “some very bad people”. So civic nationalists who are being censored on Twitter are moving to Parler to avoid being associated with ethnonationalists on Gab.
 
Be curious to know from Roosh why he chose it. I think he's on Telegram too and cross-posts Twitter stuff there.

Thing I don't like about Parler and Telegram is that they require a phone #.
agree 100% at least Telegram allows viewing without an account. Signup with a phone? May as well just email your SSN to a Soros funded NGO.

And remember, even if you don't advocate anything 'hateful' - even if you are 100% against violence. You are seen by globalists as the enemy. You didn't chose your enemies, your enemies choose you.
 
I don't like the idea of parler being necessary because of the wrongthink on gab. Gab has already shown they are legit with projects like "dissenter."
Remember the old days of multi-platforms things like Pigeon and AOL messenger? Maybe that's the solution - a 'platform' that consolidates and allows interaction and reading of multiple platforms. Gab is onto something with dissenter and the way they are allow commenting on articles which as we know has been blocked by most MSM.
 

MeymoonMan

Sparrow
Remember the old days of multi-platforms things like Pigeon and AOL messenger? Maybe that's the solution - a 'platform' that consolidates and allows interaction and reading of multiple platforms. Gab is onto something with dissenter and the way they are allow commenting on articles which as we know has been blocked by most MSM.

Sounds like you're talking about something like ActivityPub. Bunch of different social networking sites all speak the ActivityPub language, so they all talk to eachother, you can follow people from the other sites and everything. Gab is part of that network.

Also RSS. Pretty much anybody who runs a blog is going to give you an RSS feed for their blog. So you can use RSS to aggregate feeds from a million different websites all together in one app. Just get an RSS reader app. Running your own blog and following others through RSS is probably the best way for sane social media.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Civnat cucks: "I got kicked off of twitter so I want an alternative platform, but not gab, it's full of bigots."

Gab: "But you were happy to be on twitter, which was full of hardcore marxist POC supremacists..."

Civnat cucks: "I define myself as Right wing even though I'm actually a weak-willed centrist, so the presence of an actual legitimate Right wing makes me far more uncomfortable than the presence of a hardcore Left wing which makes me look Right wing by comparison. Understand?"
 
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