Patriot Front Thread

Samseau

Peacock
Orthodox
Gold Member
Here is a great interview from Thursday with the leader of the Patriot Front Thomas Rousseau that I highly recommend. A few big takeaways from it are...

Thomas is much better spoken than I originally realized.

Thomas is more than happy to interview/debate with anyone who calls him and his organization "Feds" and no one will take him up on it.

Thomas said no matter what the GOP and their paid activists say about him and his group they are only going to grow and become more public. They don't care to argue online, they care to get their message out on the street and let people see for themselves and he said this is working very well for them. They are part of the political discussion, as much as anyone else, and they will keep pushing and they have found their way to do so and also avoid issues with local police and the FBI.

Thomas Rousseau interview on Odysee with Eric Striker

If he is serious, then he should post his tax returns.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
If he is serious, then he should post his tax returns.
I think this is a great point. Unfortunately no one will give him air time to even challenge him to do it.

Again, not that it matters. He isn't going away. His group is growing by leaps and bounds while the GOP is in a free fall among young men. And as life in the USA gets worse, and we all know it will, and it will happen under the GOP just as much as the DNC, the "wignats" will be the last alternative. This is far from the first time in history this has happened.
 

Parmesan

Pelican
Other Christian
This stuff is SOOOOOOO Radioactive.


There was some decent arguments in the past that this was a legit group, but for me this pretty much puts the nail in the coffin. All these guys appear to have corporate soy-ish builds, sneakers, slim fit jeans, etc. The drill leader even lacks masculinity. A grassroots para-military group like this would realistically have a mix of rough around the edges work boot types, beer guts, ex military, and some soft men looking for male role models mixed in. Almost all these guys look like they just graduated with a liberal arts degree and got lost on their way to Starbucks. And your based 4chan, autist, beta types that might actually exhibit these physical features and dress, wouldn't sign up for this gimmick even if they believed it. Don't even get me started on the masks. I just don't see where these guys are coming from, it doesn't fit at all. Although, the main purpose is probably to make dissidents inherently skeptical of ANY organized effort, and thus keeping them fractured and sitting at home on their laptops. It's almost like it's intentionally blatant and half baked, they are basically saying, "we already own you, so don't even try it".
 

get2choppaaa

Crow
Orthodox
There was some decent arguments in the past that this was a legit group, but for me this pretty much puts the nail in the coffin. All these guys appear to have corporate soy-ish builds, sneakers, slim fit jeans, etc. The drill leader even lacks masculinity. A grassroots para-military group like this would realistically have a mix of rough around the edges work boot types, beer guts, ex military, and some soft men looking for male role models mixed in. Almost all these guys look like they just graduated with a liberal arts degree and got lost on their way to Starbucks. And your based 4chan, autist, beta types that might actually exhibit these physical features and dress, wouldn't sign up for this gimmick even if they believed it. Don't even get me started on the masks. I just don't see where these guys are coming from, it doesn't fit at all. Although, the main purpose is probably to make dissidents inherently skeptical of ANY organized effort, and thus keeping them fractured and sitting at home on their laptops. It's almost like it's intentionally blatant and half baked, they are basically saying, "we already own you, so don't even try it".
Yeah..... I'd guess 1 in 3 is fed or directly fed coerced.

I mean they ALL look like cookie cutter recruited kids, likely on ssri's.
 

DanielH

Hummingbird
Moderator
Orthodox
I actually think a strong majority of the Patriot Front guys are not Feds. The Feds want us to think everyone is Feds, so we don't organize. One data point I have is that someone I know tried joining PF and their application was rejected. A fed organization probably wouldn't reject very many people.

I see people say they're too fit, so they're Feds, which is quite a stupid thing to say, as if to be genuine you need to be a pudgy slob, or that they're Feds since they hide their identities. Well that's what the US founding fathers did.

I think they're mostly just young, motivated guys who've been cheated by society and are upset, but they don't have very many older guys to show them how to organize. They've done some good things protesting some evil things and doing charity. I don't encourage people to join them however because it's seemingly secular, it's risky, and they're overly ideological, but they're not against me (since I'm a white American also against globohomo) and I don't think they're fake.
 

get2choppaaa

Crow
Orthodox
I actually think a strong majority of the Patriot Front guys are not Feds. The Feds want us to think everyone is Feds, so we don't organize. One data point I have is that someone I know tried joining PF and their application was rejected. A fed organization probably wouldn't reject very many people.

I see people say they're too fit, so they're Feds, which is quite a stupid thing to say, as if to be genuine you need to be a pudgy slob, or that they're Feds since they hide their identities. Well that's what the US founding fathers did.

I think they're mostly just young, motivated guys who've been cheated by society and are upset, but they don't have very many older guys to show them how to organize. They've done some good things protesting some evil things and doing charity. I don't encourage people to join them however because it's seemingly secular, it's risky, and they're overly ideological, but they're not against me (since I'm a white American also against globohomo) and I don't think they're fake.
I think its my point that majority MAY NOT be Feds, but they are Fed influenced.

Look at the Gretchen Witmer kidnapping case....

Also the gentleman on the right clearly isnt doing his burpees....

 
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DanielH

Hummingbird
Moderator
Orthodox
Look at the Gretchen Witmer kidnapping case....
They weren't Patriot Front, and to say PF is Fed influenced is to imply the leaders are Feds, and I can't say that because I don't see them making big mistakes yet like getting into a Charlottesville or Whitmer kidnapping debacle yet. They've frankly had more wins than losses so far.

People need to realize - in any generation, when the young men of fighting age see that they are being demographically replaced, their hopes for a stable marriage are dashed (due to their women marrying dogs, foreigners and Tiktok), and economic conditions collapse where housing is impossible right now for most young people, radicalism always skyrockets. Some repent, some will become trannies, some Antifa, and some will join PF and other such groups. It's an inevitability, and it's becoming such a real threat to the government that they are having a very difficult time controlling it. There's tens, hundreds of times more men in those radical categories joining groups than there were 15, 20 years ago. It's not logistically practicable to have them all totally controlled.

People need to understand the mindset of these teenage to mid 20 something men. They don't care about taboos of the past, like having a neutral or positive opinion on Hitler. I have a negative opinion of him on religious grounds, but I have a number of very successful friends, we're talking young men with advanced degrees and esteemed positions in society, who think Hitler was a good or neutral guy and the Holocaust was mostly fake. These are people I organically met in real life as well. These young men resent past generations for a number of valid and invalid reasons.

In summation, generations Z and the younger millennials are a rogue generation who don't have very much to lose. They've been psyopped, coerced into a jab, impoverished, and replaced. That's very dangerous for any society.

And still, I'm definitely not saying to join PF or any other political group. I would rather direct Orthodox men to groups like the St. Paisios Brotherhood, which is led by clergy, is apolitical, and yet still explicitly against the evils of the modern world - and use that to start men's groups at your parishes.
 

paternos

Pelican
Catholic
The main purpose is probably to make dissidents inherently skeptical of ANY organized effort, and thus keeping them fractured and sitting at home on their laptops. It's almost like it's intentionally blatant and half baked, they are basically saying, "we already own you, so don't even try it".

That's it.

The objective of this type of propaganda is to make any dissident organisation look like a bunch of losers or crazies.

The "Goyim Defense League" or "Patriot Front" are getting so much press time because they look like that. Anyhow I'm a 100% sure there are agents in there (if not completely owned), otherwise they wouldn't run the risk promote them like this.

I'll bet you we would see 0 images or videos of a real para military group with serious ex-military men. And we will never see functioning church groups of Men getting closer to Christ. We will also never see smart college boys presenting a case for nationalism in a normal way. We will never see Adolf Hitler give a speech on YouTube with decent sound quality and some people calmly explaining his thoughts.

This is standard political practice. Mocking the opposition. Church groups of men are gay pedophiles. And groups of men with nationalist feelings are losers with drums, shields and marching training. Hitler is a shouting crazy idiot that got the whole of Germany in hypnosis. Nationalists are just dumbly shouting sieg heil like Beavis and Butthead.
 

eradicator

Crow
Agnostic
Gold Member
The "Goyim Defense League" or "Patriot Front" are getting so much press time because they look like that. Anyhow I'm a 100% sure there are agents in there (if not completely owned),

There’s an actual organization named the goyim defense league?! That sounds like it would be a sub forum of 4chan
 

MusicForThePiano

Ostrich
Trad Catholic
They weren't Patriot Front, and to say PF is Fed influenced is to imply the leaders are Feds, and I can't say that because I don't see them making big mistakes yet like getting into a Charlottesville or Whitmer kidnapping debacle yet. They've frankly had more wins than losses so far.

People need to realize - in any generation, when the young men of fighting age see that they are being demographically replaced, their hopes for a stable marriage are dashed (due to their women marrying dogs, foreigners and Tiktok), and economic conditions collapse where housing is impossible right now for most young people, radicalism always skyrockets. Some repent, some will become trannies, some Antifa, and some will join PF and other such groups. It's an inevitability, and it's becoming such a real threat to the government that they are having a very difficult time controlling it. There's tens, hundreds of times more men in those radical categories joining groups than there were 15, 20 years ago. It's not logistically practicable to have them all totally controlled.

People need to understand the mindset of these teenage to mid 20 something men. They don't care about taboos of the past, like having a neutral or positive opinion on Hitler. I have a negative opinion of him on religious grounds, but I have a number of very successful friends, we're talking young men with advanced degrees and esteemed positions in society, who think Hitler was a good or neutral guy and the Holocaust was mostly fake. These are people I organically met in real life as well. These young men resent past generations for a number of valid and invalid reasons.

In summation, generations Z and the younger millennials are a rogue generation who don't have very much to lose. They've been psyopped, coerced into a jab, impoverished, and replaced. That's very dangerous for any society.

And still, I'm definitely not saying to join PF or any other political group. I would rather direct Orthodox men to groups like the St. Paisios Brotherhood, which is led by clergy, is apolitical, and yet still explicitly against the evils of the modern world - and use that to start men's groups at your parishes.
It's not so much that actual feds are inside the groups themselves, look at the case of "Enrique Tarrio" with the Proud Boys, he was a federal informant due to being caught in some criminal acts he engaged in years earlier, and so he started down the path of this "closely-monitored" albeit not directly controlled-opposition. Any real attempts by a paramilitary group to use force against the diktats of Washington would have to have its leaders integrity not compromised by federal informants, not on the hook for criminal acts in the past, not at risk of poor opsec where they can upload kiddie-pron to one of their laptops and get a federal warrant for a search and seizure from a judge, and not mixing the rank and file members of the paramilitary organization with compromised men on jewish drugs. With all the disenfranchised men, there needs to be a way to bring them all together, even those who are not Christian, or have fallen out of practicing, as a majority of people alive today were not born into atheist families.

I won't delve into Hitlerian topics on this thread, but to view as a parallel that in its infancy, even the NSDAP which always had a paramilitary wing was the norm for that time period due to Communist violence. It too had moles and spies for other interests, first for other political parties, and later once they were a significant presence in the Reichstag for other reasons, namely non-monotheistic religious zealots who kept agitating against the interest of the Christian majority German population, and as I have shown in the other thread these men were all kicked out of their posts, banned from party membership, and some even jailed for their dissent-sowing. What you are seeing in regards to younger men not caring about Hitler or the lolohoax, even those who haven't studied the material and exposed the lies, is that the brainwashing is effectively wearing off. People are entitled to their own positive/neutral/negative opinion on anyone, but the institutions telling someone they must have a negative opinion on someone or something only ensures the opposite will occur eventually. I'm sure 1700s kids in England would mouth off about Cromwell being a bad man and that King Charles was duped and didn't deserve to die, just as how people in Rome revered Caesar despite all the lies his opponents proliferated about him even after his death. This thing comes in waves and goes in echoes.

Flash forward to the 21st century and every paramilitary group in the west (US/UK/CAN/AUS/NZ western Europe) that becomes sizeable beyond a few members, (and I believe, even the ones that are not official groups, and even lone individuals with enough of an interest) are compiled into the federal database or interpol database of POI's and groups of interest. They have extensive files on every single group, even likely this forum although no one here is guilty of anything. The whole point is that they believe they must monitor every non-controlled communication between people because it is a direct threat to their power base, which they euphemistically label "a rules-based order" or the "international order" or whatever new gay trope they've come up with. In that assessment they would not be wrong. The people are dissatisfied with this dismal lot in life they've been handed, and the human will desires to live, not to pace its temporal presence as a shade lost to fleshly inhibitions and empty philosophies.

The problem is that there is an organic need to be filled by the disenfranchisement in the form of a group, a structure, which is what humans naturally look towards in one another for governance and destiny. The Church filled this role for millennia, even intertwined with monarchic governments, but it has been so long since we have had any functioning monarchies who have kept their societies together for the interests of their people and their faith that these millions of disenfranchised youths are forming these frankenstein groups which are easily co-opted by intelligensia and either used for furthering a dialectic of legalistic control or fizzed out into a nothing-burger until one group can be used for the former purpose.

The last such organic group to arise and overturn the poverty and immorality of their society into something successful in recent history was the NSDAP in Germany, as it operated outside the control mechanisms of finance capitalism and communism. This is why it gets the most attention by the lost generation, however if we go further back in history we can find other examples. I suppose one more recent group could be the Afghani Mujahideen, but they are not exactly inspirational to Christian, whether Catholic or Orthodox, although they have still kept their ways safe from globohomo and fought back jewish influence. What good is it to the millions of us Europeans and non-European Christians if the only people allowed to live freely are non-Christian? There must be a synthesis. If the dialectic could be wrestled away from the zionists and the bankers, then perhaps, but only through prayer, discernment, and studying, and debating, and talking with one another can we figure out a solution to our earthly passage in the form of a government.

I tell everyone they must look beyond Germany for the solution of our current problems, but to not discount the direness that caused the NSDAP to come about and change history, as we will all experience that direness and we must not let ourselves be pushed into a situation that the elites will manage to overturn for their benefit like most of history. There are components of success to be found when a bunch of men who were not of the nobility or the millionaire-class got together and decided to make something better for their people. I think people need to go back to the founding of the Church, the adoption of the faith in Rome, and the sheer will of iron that Christianity had in its adherents to overtake the pagan world, even if some of it was by force. Every one of these lost souls in the modern grey hedonic world needs to retrace their family's faith and join their churches, and see that is a world full of light and beauty and piety. A complete 2000-year historical education is what I would throw at every one of these kids, and maybe only 1/10 will even care to look into it, but the ones that do will emerge wiser and the more wiser people there are the less that will fall for traps and perhaps some of these groups can outlast the internal and external assault from the agencies with their unlimited fiat funding.

As for this PF group in particular, I still would caution all curious minds to stay away from it, as the media coverage has surely drawn a fed-monitoring presence even if it somehow is not glowing yet.

Edit: Your suggestion is good, apolitical groups centered around Orthodoxy is a beginning, and I would recommend the same for Catholics. But either way, eventually a breach into governance is inevitable when the aims of the secular government not only conflict with the Church, but become diametrically opposed to its teachings. This is the event horizon of all societies, when their faith and their laws must not be fringe from one another. How this will play out in the west is beyond me right now, but in the east I see the symphony of Church and State in Russia to be advantageous and other nations should emulate it.

There’s an actual organization named the goyim defense league?! That sounds like it would be a sub forum of 4chan
Yes, and these guys are an affront to civilized discourse. They verbally attack jews leaving their synagogue, something which my Anglo-Saxon blood is opposed to as there is no honor in it, despite what some of these jews do to all of us. They are for sure a federal entity. I have never seen the police summoned when they are behaving debasingly, and in the west if one does anything to harm the sacred jew, even their "feelings," one will be smeared with vitriol and swarmed with legal action from the hordes of pavlovian organizations and layers of padded protection these people have. One's ability to live "freely" in the west would be smoked faster than a joint at a fraternity party. I have even seen one video where two cop cars drove away from the scene, almost as if they were told not to interfere. This GDL group is most certainly a dialectical-enhancer, much more so that Patriot Front. Their (((actions))) have no doubt spurred several US states to draft up new "anti-semitic" laws, more are still being written.
 
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budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
PF would be legit if they eliminated their social media accounts by just sticking to their local grassroots level. Otherwise, posting pictures and/or videos on their social media accounts or getting a lot of media attention at the national level simply raise a lot of questions and suspicions.

Also, has anybody noticed that Biden recently called white supremacy 'most dangerous terrorist threat' in his commencement speech at Howard University (HU)?

And the PF march in D.C. happened on the same day as Biden's commencement white supremacy speech at HU? Talk about suspicious timing when the whole PF march in D.C. seems to be staged on the same day as Biden's white supremacy speech.
 
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Easy_C

Peacock
PF would be legit if they eliminated their social media accounts by just sticking to their local grassroots level. Otherwise, posting pictures and/or videos on their social media accounts or getting a lot of media attention at the national level simply raise a lot of questions and suspicions.

Also, has anybody noticed that Biden recently called white supremacy 'most dangerous terrorist threat' in his commencement speech at Howard University (HU)?

And the PF march in D.C. happened on the same day as Biden's commencement white supremacy speech at HU? Talk about suspicious timing when the whole PF march in D.C. seems to be staged on the same day as Biden's white supremacy speech.

Correct. The actual militia types tend to be a bit smarter than that and not make a huge online fuss.

Incidentally, you know who is massively active on Social Media? Gang Bangers and the like. They're constantly posting pictures of themselves with the "homies", flashing gang signs, holding guns,e tc.
 
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