They weren't Patriot Front, and to say PF is Fed influenced is to imply the leaders are Feds, and I can't say that because I don't see them making big mistakes yet like getting into a Charlottesville or Whitmer kidnapping debacle yet. They've frankly had more wins than losses so far.
People need to realize - in any generation, when the young men of fighting age see that they are being demographically replaced, their hopes for a stable marriage are dashed (due to their women marrying dogs, foreigners and Tiktok), and economic conditions collapse where housing is impossible right now for most young people, radicalism always skyrockets. Some repent, some will become trannies, some Antifa, and some will join PF and other such groups. It's an inevitability, and it's becoming such a real threat to the government that they are having a very difficult time controlling it. There's tens, hundreds of times more men in those radical categories joining groups than there were 15, 20 years ago. It's not logistically practicable to have them all totally controlled.
People need to understand the mindset of these teenage to mid 20 something men. They don't care about taboos of the past, like having a neutral or positive opinion on Hitler. I have a negative opinion of him on religious grounds, but I have a number of very successful friends, we're talking young men with advanced degrees and esteemed positions in society, who think Hitler was a good or neutral guy and the Holocaust was mostly fake. These are people I organically met in real life as well. These young men resent past generations for a number of valid and invalid reasons.
In summation, generations Z and the younger millennials are a rogue generation who don't have very much to lose. They've been psyopped, coerced into a jab, impoverished, and replaced. That's very dangerous for any society.
And still, I'm definitely not saying to join PF or any other political group. I would rather direct Orthodox men to groups like the St. Paisios Brotherhood, which is led by clergy, is apolitical, and yet still explicitly against the evils of the modern world - and use that to start men's groups at your parishes.
It's not so much that actual feds are inside the groups themselves, look at the case of "Enrique Tarrio" with the Proud Boys, he was a federal informant due to being caught in some criminal acts he engaged in years earlier, and so he started down the path of this "closely-monitored" albeit not directly controlled-opposition. Any real attempts by a paramilitary group to use force against the diktats of Washington would have to have its leaders integrity not compromised by federal informants, not on the hook for criminal acts in the past, not at risk of poor opsec where they can upload kiddie-pron to one of their laptops and get a federal warrant for a search and seizure from a judge, and not mixing the rank and file members of the paramilitary organization with compromised men on jewish drugs. With all the disenfranchised men, there needs to be a way to bring them all together, even those who are not Christian, or have fallen out of practicing, as a majority of people alive today were not born into atheist families.
I won't delve into Hitlerian topics on this thread, but to view as a parallel that in its infancy, even the NSDAP which always had a paramilitary wing was the norm for that time period due to Communist violence. It too had moles and spies for other interests, first for other political parties, and later once they were a significant presence in the Reichstag for other reasons, namely non-monotheistic religious zealots who kept agitating against the interest of the Christian majority German population, and as I have shown in the other thread these men were all kicked out of their posts, banned from party membership, and some even jailed for their dissent-sowing. What you are seeing in regards to younger men not caring about Hitler or the lolohoax, even those who haven't studied the material and exposed the lies, is that the brainwashing is effectively wearing off. People are entitled to their own positive/neutral/negative opinion on anyone, but the institutions telling someone they must
have a negative opinion on someone or something only ensures the opposite will occur eventually. I'm sure 1700s kids in England would mouth off about Cromwell being a bad man and that King Charles was duped and didn't deserve to die, just as how people in Rome revered Caesar despite all the lies his opponents proliferated about him even after his death. This thing comes in waves and goes in echoes.
Flash forward to the 21st century and every paramilitary group in the west (US/UK/CAN/AUS/NZ western Europe) that becomes sizeable beyond a few members, (and I believe, even the ones that are not official groups, and even lone individuals with enough of an interest) are compiled into the federal database or interpol database of POI's and groups of interest. They have extensive files on every single group, even likely this forum although no one here is guilty of anything. The whole point is that they believe they must monitor every non-controlled communication between people because it is a direct threat to their power base, which they euphemistically label "a rules-based order" or the "international order" or whatever new gay trope they've come up with. In that assessment they would not be wrong. The people are dissatisfied with this dismal lot in life they've been handed, and the human will desires to live, not to pace its temporal presence as a shade lost to fleshly inhibitions and empty philosophies.
The problem is that there is an organic need to be filled by the disenfranchisement in the form of a group, a structure, which is what humans naturally look towards in one another for governance and destiny. The Church filled this role for millennia, even intertwined with monarchic governments, but it has been so long since we have had any functioning monarchies who have kept their societies together for the interests of their people and their faith that these millions of disenfranchised youths are forming these frankenstein groups which are easily co-opted by intelligensia and either used for furthering a dialectic of legalistic control or fizzed out into a nothing-burger until one group can be used for the former purpose.
The last such organic group to arise and overturn the poverty and immorality of their society into something successful in recent history was the NSDAP in Germany, as it operated outside the control mechanisms of finance capitalism and communism. This is why it gets the most attention by the lost generation, however if we go further back in history we can find other examples. I suppose one more recent group could be the Afghani Mujahideen, but they are not exactly inspirational to Christian, whether Catholic or Orthodox, although they have still kept their ways safe from globohomo and fought back jewish influence. What good is it to the millions of us Europeans and non-European Christians if the only people allowed to live freely are non-Christian? There must be a synthesis. If the dialectic could be wrestled away from the zionists and the bankers, then perhaps, but only through prayer, discernment, and studying, and debating, and talking with one another can we figure out a solution to our earthly passage in the form of a government.
I tell everyone they must look beyond Germany for the solution of our current problems, but to not discount the direness that caused the NSDAP to come about and change history, as we will all experience that direness and we must not let ourselves be pushed into a situation that the elites will manage to overturn for their benefit like most of history. There are components of success to be found when a bunch of men who were not of the nobility or the millionaire-class got together and decided to make something better for their people. I think people need to go back to the founding of the Church, the adoption of the faith in Rome, and the sheer will of iron that Christianity had in its adherents to overtake the pagan world, even if some of it was by force. Every one of these lost souls in the modern grey hedonic world needs to retrace their family's faith and join their churches, and see that is a world full of light and beauty and piety. A complete 2000-year historical education is what I would throw at every one of these kids, and maybe only 1/10 will even care to look into it, but the ones that do will emerge wiser and the more wiser people there are the less that will fall for traps and perhaps some of these groups can outlast the internal and external assault from the agencies with their unlimited fiat funding.
As for this PF group in particular, I still would caution all curious minds to stay away from it, as the media coverage has surely drawn a fed-monitoring presence even if it somehow is not glowing yet.
Edit: Your suggestion is good, apolitical groups centered around Orthodoxy is a beginning, and I would recommend the same for Catholics. But either way, eventually a breach into governance is inevitable when the aims of the secular government not only conflict with the Church, but become diametrically opposed to its teachings. This is the event horizon of all societies, when their faith and their laws must not be fringe from one another. How this will play out in the west is beyond me right now, but in the east I see the symphony of Church and State in Russia to be advantageous and other nations should emulate it.
There’s an actual organization named the goyim defense league?! That sounds like it would be a sub forum of 4chan
Yes, and these guys are an affront to civilized discourse. They verbally attack jews leaving their synagogue, something which my Anglo-Saxon blood is opposed to as there is no honor in it, despite what some of these jews do to all of us. They are for sure a federal entity. I have never seen the police summoned when they are behaving debasingly, and in the west if one does anything to harm the sacred jew, even their "feelings," one will be smeared with vitriol and swarmed with legal action from the hordes of pavlovian organizations and layers of padded protection these people have. One's ability to live "freely" in the west would be smoked faster than a joint at a fraternity party. I have even seen one video where two cop cars drove away from the scene, almost as if they were told not to interfere. This GDL group is most certainly a dialectical-enhancer, much more so that Patriot Front. Their (((actions))) have no doubt spurred several US states to draft up new "anti-semitic" laws, more are still being written.