Personal and home defense strategies

I have found this a fascinating thread, because I live in the Philippines, in a good, but not great area, in terms of safety. I "feel safe," but have been told that muggings and burglaries/home invasions do happen, though rarely. I live in a new apartment eightplex, with enough adults and young children almost always outside, that it would have a deterrence effect. We have bars on the windows, but presently, no alarm system. We don't own a gun, a dog, a machete, or even a baseball bat. Big kitchen meat cutting knives are about it for defense. Our next door neighbor has closed circuit cams watching the front and back of his apartment. My lady does at least carry pepper spray in her travels.

Being that I am a white skinned American, I stand out, and that could create the assumption that we have lots of great stuff to steal, which is not actually true. Other than a few computers, phones and a big wide screen television, we don't have much. Am I being nervous over nothing? What should I do next, to keep things safe?

The only "crime" I have witnessed was the cousin of our next door neighbor (not the one with the cams), who looked like a punk rock lesbian, step onto our back porch area, and steal a small packet of laundry detergent! Lol She did not realize I saw her from my desk. I decided to let the whole matter go, to not create difficulty with our nice neighbor, who had a bad relative, temporarily staying with them. They are all gone now.
I personally would never live in SEA again. Too many predatory psychopaths and jealous haters that will target foreigners.

Americans in Angeles city have been shot just to steal laptops from them or even just out of spite like in the video below (they killed the golden goose for no gain):


As a foreigner in the Philippines, stay away from shady areas, shady people, always keep your guard up and don't entertain people looking to bait you into arguments and confrontations.

If you have to stay move somewhere upper middle class integrated into an office area where white collar working people are always around like Eastwood City in Quezon City.

In SEA and Africa looking too poor (unshaven, non iron clothing) can make people question as well what you're even doing there and you don't want to be considered the drug dealer, shady foreigner or someone with no local connections that they can target without repercussions either.

Africans always iron their shirts because they don't want to thought of as hoodlums that get targeted by the police.
 
If you're living in a big city - dress down - blend in.

In Īsrael everybody from the lowest level worker to high level finance guys dress in cheap blue jeans, a polo shirt (top buttons always open) and random running shoes / sneakers, usually unshaven and they never look too neat. Look some street walking videos of Teł Avīv to get an idea.

Decathlon or HM should be your shops of choice.

In the cities, walk quickly, look down, use your peripheral vision to see whats going on around you, if random people chat you up - got to go - got no time. Never entertain people that aren't introduced to you by known quantities as trustworthy. If neighbors inquire about your work or finances you're always barely getting by, got debts etc. Jealousy can get you killed and almost got me killed in the past. If you're retired get a low end job like delivery driver so people in your area know your face and associate you as a legit working lower class person and not some guy sitting on his millions. Rumors alone can make you a home invasion / robbery victim.

While lower working class areas near ghettos can actually offer some protection if you blend in - if you lack street smarts that most people of color have inbuilt you can be an easy victim even if you don't have much.

Also keep some cash ($100 or so) in your pocket. Robbers might kill you out of anger if they get nothing of worth when they rob you.
I agree with this , especially the dressing part. Dress like the average joe , don't show any type of wealth , also if you are involved in any type of events , just behave like them etc etc.
 
Another thing: If you're a skinny hard gainer wear and need to move to a poor area wear a puff jacket and wear wide jeans. The more buff and muscular you look the more likely people will leave you alone.

Skinny jeans guys that look frail and weak will be the first to get got.
 
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Sam Malone

Ostrich
Gold Member
^ or, that skinny jeans guy could be hiding something under that coat.

A buddy of mine bought a small red led bulb, and a relay to make it blink. Fitted it on his car dashboard, and it drew next to nothing from the battery.

He never got broken into, even though the car had no alarm. The blinking light was enough of a deterrent for car thieves.

Just the perception of having a weapon on you will in most cases make a potential attacker look for an easier target.
 

budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member

Daniel @DanielBaker1
Jul 3
My wife of 18 years who never wanted a gun got two last month.



Wjgsert91 @wjgsert91
Jul 3
Got my first one today..never had any interest in guns..thank you democrata..will be doing a training course as soon as they have an opening..they are booked solid in my area

Ray Dietrich @raydietrichs
Jul 3
My 65 yr old father in law and LA County resident just bought his first handgun.
 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
Keep your physical fitness and endurance up. Dont want to be huffing and puffing trying to sight someone and your arms are shaking.

I've seen some people mentioning getting out if things become to hot. If that is a plan of yours I hope you can carry 100lbs of stuff at a good pace for a reasonable distance.
 

Easy_C

Crow
For rural defense:

Has anyone looked into how one would use a drone for recon? You could use it to scan around the edge of a property or check roads ahead. I’m thinking you’d want something with programmable routes and an auto-return feature.

I do understand they can be jammed but that in and of itself can be an early warning system if a drone returns prematurely.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Seems like a negative return on time spent reviewing footage as far as location protection goes. Maybe the really high end stuff has thermal but that's going to cost a lot. Terrain varies too. Useless in a swamp. Great out on the flatlands.

If you have enough people that there's a dedicated scout/security guy then I suppose it's a force multiplier but if it's just you then what are the odds you detect something in time to actually react to it?
 

Easy_C

Crow
I wouldn't be looking for reviewing footage. I'd want the ability to fly something out to a road.

I have found automated solutions that rely on sensors and when a sensor is tripped it sends a drone over to check it out. That's potentially an interesting solution because if you get a drone flying over a few seconds after you pull up to a gate it makes people think they're dealing with someone who is a little more serious, but that's potentially a double edged sword.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
If these folks end up with a mob romping through their home now that they've been disarmed it's going to erode a major chunk of the public's tolerance for the whole "due process" bullshit.

Another function of having a community based approach. Access to guns after the cops take yours at gunpoint.
 

Kona

Crow
Gold Member
It sounds to me like that guy should have kept his mouth shut after the initial incident. People dug into his past. Turns out he butts heads with everybody.

https://www.stltoday.com/portland-place-couple-who-confronted-protesters-have-a-long-history-of-not-backing-down/

They are still in my top five favorite white people, and I support everyone's rights to defend their homes. Standing on your lawn pointing assault weapons at passers-by is a bit extreme. Also, his comparison of what happened in his neighborhood to the storming of the Bastille seems rather arrogant.

Aloha!
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
It's all bullshit. The only legal way to defend your property is apparently to wait in ambush for them to jump the fence and attempt to make entry to the house before you drill them without warning.

Any show of a gun prior to a beat down or a home invasion in order to resolve the situation bloodlessly is "brandishing" even if you're on your own property.

These are the only lawful rules of engagement left. Entice a bloodbath then claim self defence and you are literally in a better legal position than if you carry a gun at low ready and move the savages along.

Imagine the redcoats on the village green. "Relax, we're not here to confiscate your guns, but everyone in attendance is hereby charged with brandishing a firearm, hand over your guns so we can settle this by due process."

Apparently bearing arms means something other than brandishing them in public.
 
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Pooch32

Sparrow
It's all bullshit. The only legal way to defend your property is apparently to wait in ambush for them to jump the fence and attempt to make entry to the house before you drill them without warning.

Any show of a gun prior to a beat down or a home invasion in order to resolve the situation bloodlessly is "brandishing" even if you're on your own property.

These are the only lawful rules of engagement left. Entice a bloodbath then claim self defence and you are literally in a better legal position than if you carry a gun at low ready and move the savages along.

Imagine the redcoats on the village green. "Relax, we're not here to confiscate your guns, but everyone in attendance is hereby charged with brandishing a firearm, hand over your guns so we can settle this by due process."

Apparently bearing arms means something other than brandishing them in public.
I’m just waiting for that scenario to happen at which point they can claim they only peacefully broke into the house and shooting in self defense is actually unjustified because the mob did not actually pose a threat to the homeowner.
 

kel

Pelican
^^^ That's not too far from the law in many states. Many states require you to retreat to the farthest place from where an intruder is entering and take shelter there. If you fire before then, you've broken the law.
 

Tail Gunner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
^^^ That's not too far from the law in many states. Many states require you to retreat to the farthest place from where an intruder is entering and take shelter there. If you fire before then, you've broken the law.
Wyoming? North Dakota?

The Duty to Retreat States
The states below have laws imposing a duty to retreat. This basically means if you can retreat or get away from a dangerous situation, you cannot use deadly force. The other end of the spectrum of this scenario is if you were cornered with no way to retreat, then you can use deadly force to protect yourself.

These states have some form of duty to retreat so you need to understand the law in your state. (This list was provided from FindLaw.com.)

  • Arkansas
  • Connecticut
  • Delaware
  • Hawaii
  • Iowa
  • Maine
  • Maryland
  • Massachusetts
  • Missouri
  • Minnesota
  • Nebraska
  • New Jersey
  • New York
  • North Dakota
  • Rhode Island
  • Wisconsin
  • Wyoming


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