Please do not smile at strangers

[Bad Hussar]

Phew. Relieved the sign is a joke. I've actually found New York to be one of the friendlier cities I've spent time in.

In the unlikely event that "JayMeister"is is a serious non-troll poster, and not actually "JayFrau":
Pretty much no members here ever use the word "creepy" unless they are being ironic or disparaging to the women who do use the word in real life. Using it seriously here is the equivalent of using the "N" word. If you want to convey a similar concept you will have to think of a different word to use.

 

[Dusty]

So would you like it if some random unattractive woman on the street started talking to you in order to try and have sex with you?

I don't think so :dodgy:

Talking to random people on the street is insanely weird. Go to a club/have a social circle. There people go in order to be talked to.

:troll:

 

[Col. Tigh]

So would you like it if some random unattractive woman on the street started talking to you in order to try and have sex with you?

I don't think so :dodgy:

Talking to random people on the street is insanely weird. Go to a club/have a social circle. There people go in order to be talked to.

You, sir, are a troll.

 

[JayMeister]

But I am saying the same words when I approach a woman because I want to eventually have sex with her and when I don't. Where is this switch that makes my approach a traumatizing experience for someone?

I find ridiculous the notion that talking to someone on the street, no matter the motivation of the person, is something "insanely weird" that makes people "uncomfortable" and needs to be discouraged in general. If someone really finds it that uncomfortable for whatever personal reason, they always have the option of walking with a closed body language and/or headphones, which many actually already do.

Am I supposed to be offended by students offering me flyers too? They're actually trying to sell me something, which is much more "low" than trying to have sex with me.

Uhm. There is a difference here. I've seen a few times some guy on the street or in a mall who is chatting up a lot of different girls. That is weird, creepy and really socially not-done imo. It's awkward for everybody involved.

If you are on the street or anywhere else and you see a woman you really like then by all means, take a shot. Nothing wrong with that. It's the people in the above paragraph that are ruining it for the rest of us, by attaching a stigma to talking to people on the street.

I'm sure you can appreciate the difference here. Going out with the purpose of talking to people on the street is weird and borderline assburger.

Btw I really fucking hate people who try to sell me something on the street too. I don't blame em personally cos ppl gotta eat. But it's still annoying as fuck when somebody you don't want to talk to starts talking to you and doesn't immediately stop again.

despite my spider sense being on at your use of language (bolded), I'll bite and also speculate. If someone is sticking out like a sore thumb while having a conversation with a stranger they are doing it wrong.

Have you ever met a naturally chatty senior citizen? or been in a church in the south, or sat at a sports bar anywhere in Wisconsin?

In those circumstances you can find yourself wrapped up a conversation with a stranger, man or woman on a regular basis. People are just friendly. In the same circumstance if some thirsty guy was petting a girls arm he would also stand out as abnormal.

As someone who has done well with Daygame, its not really 'game' at all, its being able to build rapport with a stranger which is a beneficial skill in many walks of life. Once that rapport is established with a woman, and she's engaged in the conversation its simply directed into a date.

Advocating that talking to strangers is creepy ensures social isolation and if you think its creepy make sure you don't travel alone anywhere or you'll be creeped out for the duration of your trip.

That's more or less what I'm saying anyway.

I never said don't talk to people on the street. I said there's a bunch of creepy thirsty guys out there who give us all a bad name. And I'm not surprised if their "targets" are vocal about not liking it very much.

The only reason people don't think you're weird is because you initially pretend to just be friendly without any agenda. That's all right.

Phew. Relieved the sign is a joke. I've actually found New York to be one of the friendlier cities I've spent time in.

In the unlikely event that "JayMeister"is is a serious non-troll poster, and not actually "JayFrau":
Pretty much no members here ever use the word "creepy" unless they are being ironic or disparaging to the women who do use the word in real life. Using it seriously here is the equivalent of using the "N" word. If you want to convey a similar concept you will have to think of a different word to use.

lol.

I'm being part ironic and part serious. This thread deserves to be trolled for the silly views some people have on the issue. But I guess it's a little difficult to figure out which part is ironic but the inclusion of the word creepy should give you a hint.

The serious part is that there are a lot of fucktards who talk to people on the street in an annoying way and while I doubt anyone would complain if it happens once I could understand a girl's frustration if they had to deal with it more often. I'm not a feminist or a woman but I do try to look at these subjects from both sides.

I'd get annoyed if ugly women would come up to me in more than very rarely, and tenaciously tried to hit on me while I was totally minding my own business. I wouldn't find it flattering at all, just annoying.

 

[Foolsgo1d]

There has been times when someone just smiled at me and I was like "hmmm, who was that?" Then realise it was someone in my lecture classes.

 

[KorbenDallas]

Only in America is it weird and creepy for guys to be straight. I've hit on literally hundreds of girls here in Prague. The majority turn me down, but the VAST majority are happier that the conversation happened than didn't happen.

Why? Lots of reasons. Because, they may have a boyfriend, but it still makes them feel good to be hit on and they met someone new or they may not be interested, but a short, pleasant conversation with a stranger is not something to be afraid of.

Maybe if American girls started behaving more virtuous and less like spoiled royalty there wouldn't be a vast thirsty underclass of men to begin with.

I mean, I do see your point. A lot of men are struggling in America, and a large reason is because women took their jobs, while, at the same time, going out with bums and cocaine dealers. God forbid these thirsty disadvantaged men get uppity and dare impede on these princesses important lives of fighting the patriarchy pushing paper at their meaningless HR jobs.


After the rain lets up I'm totally going to go microaggress some student girls at the club. Amirite Jay?

 

[KorbenDallas]

God, its so obvious your a woman. Men and women aren't the same. Women don't aggressively hit on guys in daily life hardly ever. If women hit on guys though, men do not care. Ever. No matter how ugly. Because guys aren't dicks and its flattering. Even if it is aggressive.

Girls, being the submissive, female sex that they are, will always be desired and hit on. The happy ones who understand this dynamic, understand they gain way more than the lose being women. Ironically, it is very often only the most ugly women who who constantly complain about "creepers" and getting hit on attempting to brag to their hotter sisters that they are like them when it is painfully obvious to everyone that what they are complaining about rarely, if ever, happens to them.

 

[JayMeister]

Only in America is it weird and creepy for guys to be straight. I've hit on literally hundreds of girls here in Prague. The majority turn me down, but the VAST majority are happier that the conversation happened than didn't happen.

Why? Lots of reasons. Because, they may have a boyfriend, but it still makes them feel good to be hit on and they met someone new or they may not be interested, but a short, pleasant conversation with a stranger is not something to be afraid of.

Maybe if American girls started behaving more virtuous and less like spoiled royalty there wouldn't be a vast thirsty underclass of men to begin with.

I mean, I do see your point. A lot of men are struggling in America, and a large reason is because women took their jobs, while, at the same time, going out with bums and cocaine dealers. God forbid these thirsty disadvantaged men get uppity and dare impede on these princesses important lives of fighting the patriarchy pushing paper at their meaningless HR jobs.


After the rain lets up I'm totally going to go microaggress some student girls at the club. Amirite Jay?

I'm not from America and I don't particularly find the attitudes of American women admirable so I'm with you on all of that. In the end it's not the women's fault though. Women are followers (of men), not leaders.

I'm not against hitting on girls lol. Knock yourself out. If you get positive interactions with ppl everybody wins.

 

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

fucktards

Man, I think you're a reasonable poster from some other thread, but you're just digging yourself deeper and deeper with this sort of lingo.

I'd get annoyed if ugly women would come up to me in more than very rarely, and tenaciously tried to hit on me while I was totally minding my own business. I wouldn't find it flattering at all, just annoying.

Yes, but I wouldn't put up a poster about it or view it as some sort of aggression that needs to be curbed.

 

[JayMeister]

God, its so obvious your a woman. Men and women aren't the same. Women don't aggressively hit on guys in daily life hardly ever. If women hit on guys though, men do not care. Ever. No matter how ugly. Because guys aren't dicks and its flattering. Even if it is aggressive.

Girls, being the submissive, female sex that they are, will always be desired and hit on. The happy ones who understand this dynamic, understand they gain way more than the lose being women. Ironically, it is very often only the most ugly women who who constantly complain about "creepers" and getting hit on attempting to brag to their hotter sisters that they are like them when it is painfully obvious to everyone that what they are complaining about rarely, if ever, happens to them.

hahahahaha please. With regards to the first paragraph: speak for yourself. I don't like to be hit on by girls I don't like, after I've made it clear to them that I am not interested (so for your reading comprehension: I am only not amused when they don't stop after I made it clear I don't want them. Just like anybody male or female).

For the rest of your post, there is so much delusion that I'm not even going to bother.

 

[KorbenDallas]

I don't know any guy, except if their famous, who gets hit on just walking around by strangers. That's what I was referring to. Girls only aggressively hit on guys when they are drunk at a club or something.

 

[Dusty]

fucktards

Man, I think you're a reasonable poster from some other thread, but you're just digging yourself deeper and deeper with this sort of lingo.

I'm waiting for "ass hat" and "wow, just wow."

 

[KorbenDallas]

Please, enlighten me, what am I delusional about?

 

[Dr. Howard]

Only in America is it weird and creepy for guys to be straight. I've hit on literally hundreds of girls here in Prague. The majority turn me down, but the VAST majority are happier that the conversation happened than didn't happen.

Why? Lots of reasons. Because, they may have a boyfriend, but it still makes them feel good to be hit on and they met someone new or they may not be interested, but a short, pleasant conversation with a stranger is not something to be afraid of.

Maybe if American girls started behaving more virtuous and less like spoiled royalty there wouldn't be a vast thirsty underclass of men to begin with.

I mean, I do see your point. A lot of men are struggling in America, and a large reason is because women took their jobs, while, at the same time, going out with bums and cocaine dealers. God forbid these thirsty disadvantaged men get uppity and dare impede on these princesses important lives of fighting the patriarchy pushing paper at their meaningless HR jobs.


After the rain lets up I'm totally going to go microaggress some student girls at the club. Amirite Jay?

I'm not from America and I don't particularly find the attitudes of American women admirable so I'm with you on all of that. In the end it's not the women's fault though. Women are followers (of men), not leaders.

I'm not against hitting on girls lol. Knock yourself out. If you get positive interactions with ppl everybody wins.

Canada then? Where else would someone pick up the north american woman's lexicon of 'fucktard' 'creepy' 'knock yourself out' 'ppl' even the UK guys on here don't write like that.

This charade is wearing thinner than an old ladies' papery skin.

 

[JayMeister]

fucktards

Man, I think you're a reasonable poster from some other thread, but you're just digging yourself deeper and deeper with this sort of lingo.

I'd get annoyed if ugly women would come up to me in more than very rarely, and tenaciously tried to hit on me while I was totally minding my own business. I wouldn't find it flattering at all, just annoying.

Yes, but I wouldn't put up a poster about it or view it as some sort of aggression that needs to be curbed.

Why? I wasn't talking about anybody here. But I have seen some times guys on the streets approaching all women and the women seemed annoyed when he wouldn't leave them alone. I personally can't blame them. So those guys who did the approaching were indeed fucktards.

Nobody is putting up posters about it ffs. That poster in the OP was a joke thing, not serious. I obviously don't think it's the kind of thing that warrants anything like that.

All I'm saying is that a this thread seems really one sided on the issue. I'm trolling a little bit I admit, but I still do think it's better to leave people alone who want nothing to do with you. I think any sane person would.

I also don't like the high and mighty attitude here that there must be something wrong with them, for wanting nothing to do with you. If someone doesn't wanna talk to you, it's nobody's "fault".

 

[KorbenDallas]

The problem is a lot of women use a "bitch" face to ward off the weak, but when you power through and get to know them despite their initial shitty attitude your reward is often a meet up and then rough glorious sex. If you were a dude you might know that. So, yea, discretion is needed, if a chick really doesn't like you, you shouldn't harass her, but game is more than just getting girls that smile at you. Like Gio said in the podcast, he NEVER gets IOI's but he powers through anyway because as men thats part of the game for us. Hope you learned something sweetheart.

 

[JayMeister]

Canada then? Where else would someone pick up the north american woman's lexicon of 'fucktard' 'creepy' 'knock yourself out' 'ppl' even the UK guys on here don't write like that.

This charade is wearing thinner than an old ladies' papery skin.

Huh? English second language. I didn't intentionally use the phrases 'fucktard' or 'ppl' to appear as a jimmies-rustling feminazi but I'm glad they helped.

Anyway I'm done derailing this thread.

Approach who you're interested in.

But don't be a fucktard about it.


Btw the way some of you (not you Dr. Howard) respond to a contrarian point of view is fucking hilarious.

 

[JayMeister]

Jaymeister spelled asperger "assburgers". Chicks are so freaking stupid.

Here retard. For your educational purposes:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=assburger

 

[Dr. Howard]

Canada then? Where else would someone pick up the north american woman's lexicon of 'fucktard' 'creepy' 'knock yourself out' 'ppl' even the UK guys on here don't write like that.

This charade is wearing thinner than an old ladies' papery skin.

Huh? English second language. I didn't intentionally use the phrases 'fucktard' or 'ppl' to appear as a jimmies-rustling feminazi but I'm glad they helped.

Anyway I'm done derailing this thread.

Approach who you're interested in.

But don't be a fucktard about it.


Btw the way some of you (not you Dr. Howard) respond to a contrarian point of view is fucking hilarious.

Continuing to give the benefit of the doubt, if you are English as a second language and from the netherlands I can understand your writing and its disconnect. The dutch guys I have spoken with have this 99% perfect grasp of english, that makes one think they are a native speaker (american accent even) except for the occasional strange phrase. Its unnerving to hear someone with a perfect accent say something like "fuck, I know what you're talking about, I should totally get some orders of those french fries with my food" I always think (Is this guy a terminator or just a really good ESL)

If that is the case, Jay, your style of writing and use of casual phrasing and slang makes you come off as an american woman. Its something you should work on.

Otherwise, if you are actually an american woman, you come off as a dutch guy who is trying too hard to use slang and casual phrasing.

 

[JayMeister]

Canada then? Where else would someone pick up the north american woman's lexicon of 'fucktard' 'creepy' 'knock yourself out' 'ppl' even the UK guys on here don't write like that.

This charade is wearing thinner than an old ladies' papery skin.

Huh? English second language. I didn't intentionally use the phrases 'fucktard' or 'ppl' to appear as a jimmies-rustling feminazi but I'm glad they helped.

Anyway I'm done derailing this thread.

Approach who you're interested in.

But don't be a fucktard about it.


Btw the way some of you (not you Dr. Howard) respond to a contrarian point of view is fucking hilarious.

Continuing to give the benefit of the doubt, if you are English as a second language and from the netherlands I can understand your writing and its disconnect. The dutch guys I have spoken with have this 99% perfect grasp of english, that makes one think they are a native speaker (american accent even) except for the occasional strange phrase. Its unnerving to hear someone with a perfect accent say something like "fuck, I know what you're talking about, I should totally get some orders of those french fries with my food" I always think (Is this guy a terminator or just a really good ESL)

If that is the case, Jay, your style of writing and use of casual phrasing and slang makes you come off as an american woman. Its something you should work on.

Otherwise, if you are actually an american woman, you come off as a dutch guy who is trying too hard to use slang and casual phrasing.

lol... you are a smart guy. But I don't get your french fries reference... Is it that orders of french fries is plural or something?

Anyway I was trolling because I really think that some guys here take their views on male-female interaction a bit too far and that makes it funny. Everybody should be pleased for you to talk to them? Women shouldn't talk unless spoken to? Come on, that's a little extreme.