Please Pray for Rob Banks

messaggera

Pelican
Woman
Other Christian
Rob's condition is genuine, serious, and not a joke or a hoax.
Please pray for Rob Banks.

This is a nice prayer for Rob and those in similar conditions:

Save, O Lord and have mercy on those in sickness and sorrow, misfortune and tribulation, those in difficult circumstances and remember them, visit, strengthen, comfort, and by Thy power and your will quickly grant the relief, freedom, and deliverance. Amen
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
O Master, the all-sustainer, and Holy King, Who punisheth but reduceth not to death, Who strengtheneth the failing, and raiseth the outcast,
Who remedieth the bodily sorrows of men, we pray unto thee, O, our Lord, visit Thine infirm servant Rob Banks with Thy mercy;
forgive him every transgression, voluntary and involuntary. Verily, O Lord, send down from Heaven Thy healing power, touch the body, extinguish the fever, lessen the suffering and every infirmity of Thy reptentant one; be the physician unto Thy servant Rob Banks;
raise him, decumbent, from sickness, and from the bed of evilness, make him whole and all-restored, return him to Thy Church well-pleasing and fulfilling Thy will. For it is of Thine own, to be merciful and to save us, O Lord, and unto Thee we send glory, to the Father, and the Son, and to the Holy Spirit, now and ever, and unto ages of ages, Amen.
 

EntWife

Kingfisher
Woman
Orthodox
I would like to apologize for my previous post in this thread.
From the responses received, I don't think I need to make excuses or justify how I reached the opinion I had of Rob, but I was wrong.

Rob's condition is genuine, serious, and not a joke or a hoax.

I've been unable to post until now, as my earlier post breached a number of forum rules. During my suspension I was contacted privately by former member AnonymousBosch, who asked me to share the following with the forum on his behalf. This was 4 days ago, so there may have been developments - positive or otherwise - since then.



Please pray for Rob Banks.
Thank you very much for the update.

I also would like to apologize for my comments expressing skepticism. I pray that Rob did well with the tracheotomy and is recovering now.
 

Kitty Tantrum

Kingfisher
Woman
Trad Catholic
It doesn't feel "good" to have confirmation of the truth/facts of the situation in this case. :(

I am glad I took the time that I did to try to help him. Glad I followed my gut. Glad I was not dismissive. I was in a particular position, with my own children being off at their dad's house for whole seasons, to extend a little "mothering" where I perceived it was needed. And qualified in some particular ways that made me feel like God was nudging me to do so. (I hope I've been able to actually help in some way.)

I'm VERY glad to hear that his priest was contacted right away.

I'll keep praying for a miraculous recovery unless/until I've heard he's dead. But at the least, he seemed to be in good spirits the last time I heard from him. I don't believe he was on a trajectory of despair when he was yanked out of the physical experience.

Thank you for relaying the message, @Tex Cruise.

Thank you all again for your kind prayers for my friend. God bless all of you.
 

EntWife

Kingfisher
Woman
Orthodox
It doesn't feel "good" to have confirmation of the truth/facts of the situation in this case. :(

I am glad I took the time that I did to try to help him. Glad I followed my gut. Glad I was not dismissive. I was in a particular position, with my own children being off at their dad's house for whole seasons, to extend a little "mothering" where I perceived it was needed. And qualified in some particular ways that made me feel like God was nudging me to do so. (I hope I've been able to actually help in some way.)

I'm VERY glad to hear that his priest was contacted right away.

I'll keep praying for a miraculous recovery unless/until I've heard he's dead. But at the least, he seemed to be in good spirits the last time I heard from him. I don't believe he was on a trajectory of despair when he was yanked out of the physical experience.

Thank you for relaying the message, @Tex Cruise.

Thank you all again for your kind prayers for my friend. God bless all of you.
Hope you're doing well with all this. Internet hugs! :sad:
 

Starlight

Pelican
Woman
Protestant
This is a nice prayer for Rob and those in similar conditions:

Save, O Lord and have mercy on those in sickness and sorrow, misfortune and tribulation, those in difficult circumstances and remember them, visit, strengthen, comfort, and by Thy power and your will quickly grant the relief, freedom, and deliverance. Amen
The dislike is from what you pm’d me. You considered @Rob Banks situation as a troll/hoax all along. Maybe you need to examine your own heart.
 
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Tex Cruise

Kingfisher
The dislike is from what you pm’d me. You considered @Rob Banks situation as a troll/hoax all along. Maybe you need to examine your own heart.

But *“prayers”* “now*? Right??
That's pretty harsh. Read my posts on the previous page of this thread. I'm the one who raised the idea he was trolling in the first place, and I'm obviously not the only one who felt that way, but I was wrong.
 

messaggera

Pelican
Woman
Other Christian
The dislike is from what you pm’d me. You considered @Rob Banks situation as a troll/hoax all along. Maybe you need to examine your own heart.

Yikes, talk about untrustworthy and vindictive behaviour from you @Starlight .
Was it not you who reached out to me about Rob Banks on the 28th DEC?

After reflecting on @Tex Cruise apology yesterday stating it was not a joke I felt horrible again to think that it was not a joke, and that I acknowledged what Tex Cruise said with "a like" to his initial comment being a troll. I was trying to make things right even if I have my own cynicism, with a post to pray for those in similar conditions. The prayer is specific and covers a variety of circumstances (sickness and sorrow, misfortune and tribulation, those in difficult circumstances).

Yes. I was cynical, and I will post what I said to you in private for all to see below.
Lesson learned I do not trust you @Starlight you mislead and cause divinessness.

The mature thing to do would have been to private message me, but you went start to the public forum to mislead without asking me privately about my intentions after I did "examine my own heart." You have proved again how we are nothing alike.

And while we are at it I also reached out to @TexasJenn (as well as you) and asked for forgiveness. I am trying to do the right things from the wrong I did this year.

Honestly, when I first looked at the thread about him I found it a bit odd. But as you know I tend to be cynical about online interactions.

If I was in that situation I do not think my family would be reaching out by looking into my account here. What our your thoughts about that? Do you think it is a larp? There were some other oddities too. That account and one other account tried to take conversations to different platforms away from the forum.

What?! That is so bizarre to even say to someone online. Third party because of a leave of absence? Who saids that?


I have noticed. You are too kind, as where I may be too cynical. It may not have sounded like one, but that was kind of a compliment to an extent. Well hopefully our difference balance things out on here.


It is a nasty trick, but you learn to identify cat fishing tactics with more online socialising— personally as I did in my younger years.

Can you imagine how difficult dating must be these days?

I am sorry too for letting my pride get in the way and finding offense to such a silly thing. I am also sorry if I have offended or said anything that you may have found hurtful. I don’t say things with malice, however I can come off rough and harsh.

I can come off hen pecky when being all technical about stuff.
 
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Starlight

Pelican
Woman
Protestant
Yikes, talk about untrustworthy and vindictive behaviour from you @Starlight .
Was it not you who reached out to me about Rob Banks on the 28th DEC?

After reflecting on @Tex Cruise apology yesterday stating it was not a joke I felt horrible again to think that it was not a joke, and that I acknowledged what Tex Cruise said with "a like" to his initial comment being a troll. I was trying to make things right even if I have my own cynicism, with a post to pray for those in similar conditions. The prayer is specific and covers a variety of circumstances (sickness and sorrow, misfortune and tribulation, those in difficult circumstances).

Yes. I was cynical, and I will post what I said to you in private for all to see below.
Lesson learned I do not trust you @Starlight you mislead and cause divinessness.

The mature thing to do would have been to private message me, but you went start to the public forum to mislead without asking me privately about my intentions after I did "examine my own heart." You have proved again how we are nothing alike.

And while we are at it I also reached out to @TexasJenn (as well as you) and asked for forgiveness. I am trying to do the right things from the wrong I did this year.
Publicly praying for a person that you were just trashing a moment ago? Yes, we are definitely not alike and I’m glad for it. What I’ve learned from Rob Banks’ unfortunate circumstance is that as much as I want to believe this is a real “community” here, it really is just a bunch of strangers arguing on the internet. You can respond to this post or not. I don’t really care as I’m not going to read it since this is the last time I’m coming to this forum.
 

ChristFollower1111

Robin
Woman
Orthodox Inquirer
This is a very sad update and I will continue to pray for Rob Banks. I enjoyed his contributions to the forum as well. Most of his threads and comments were interesting and I feel that he's a thoughtful and compassionate kind of guy. I'm glad that he has been seeking the Lord and I hope and pray his family is comforted by that as well.

As for the troll speculations, it's so hard to tell on the internet with anything, so I'm sure most of us aren't being mean spirited. The proper etiquette for a situation like this is lacking because it is a pretty new thing in the history of humanity to be dealing with the situation we face in this thread: an acquaintance/friend from the internet whom many of us have had conversations with is reported to be very sick. A similar situation has only occurred once for me in my nearly 20 year history of being on the internet and it did turn out to be a partial hoax. There were some key differences in that situation, but it's hard to say unless you truly know for sure. ETA- I'm pretty sure we know for sure now.
 

Kitty Tantrum

Kingfisher
Woman
Trad Catholic
FWIW I think this thread would make Rob laugh. It's not like we never recklessly/secretively speculated about who might be a troll/AI bot.

I don't have any further updates at this time. I haven't wanted to bother his sister, and I also don't like the feeling that I might be fishing for bad news.

I'm just going to vomit some feels:

Even though I'm more or less in willful denial of the likelihood that I won't hear from him again, trying to remain positive even to the point of silliness, there has been an added heaviness in much of what I've been doing these days.

One of the reasons I hadn't had much time to talk to Rob recently is because I've been working on putting together something resembling a structured curriculum for my kids, now that they've hit highschool age.

My plan for several years has been to center their "formal education" around running a small bakery/kitchen (I doubt there's a subject you can't tie into that somehow!). While they are learning, it will be a hobby/charity endeavor, but will teach them everything they need to know to operate as a small business as well, by the time they're adults.

A few months ago Rob had asked me if I'd be willing to help him learn how to cook. I was like "funny you should ask because that's exactly what I'm gearing up to teach!" (I feel like I'm a lot more qualified for that than to give advice, too, lol.)

I had actually been toying with the idea of incorporating production of a small instructional video series into the program I'm building, where the kids would learn various skills, and then make a brief instructional video for the purpose of teaching others.

People have always begged me to teach them, or teach their kids, offering to throw money at me, so I know there is demand. More demand than I could ever keep up with teaching classes or lessons in-person. Since I'm not driven by the need or desire to make money, it makes sense to put what I have to teach down in an easily duplicated format instead, and just make it free. And have faith that as long as we do good and valuable work in the spirit of charity, we will receive enough support to continue doing so.

Rob seemed to think that was neat, and even offered (eventual) remote help with the technical/editing side of things.

So although we hadn't been talking much in recent weeks, he's been on my mind as I've been shuffling things around and re-tooling my home for this impending educational endeavor.

Recently I received a HUGE blessing in the form of an opportunity to salvage some equipment and bulk ingredients from the very same small bakery where I used to work, and where I basically "leveled up" from just knowing how to bake really well - to being able to run an entire small commercial enterprise on my own.

I don't think I could have asked for a clearer sign that I'm on the right track.

Ever since I was a kid, people have told me "You need to open your own restaurant/bakery someday! You need to teach lessons! You could make so much money!"

And I've been like "Shut up, I hate money"/"I'd rather stick a fork in my eye."

Internally, non-sarcastically, my position has always been that I wouldn't mind having a bakery, I wouldn't mind teaching, but I'm not motivated to do it to make money; I want to do it to serve God. When I was younger I wasn't sure how that would be possible. The world tells you that you have to go out and make a whole bunch of profit before being in any position to give labor away, and for a long time it looked like that was true.

Talking to Rob helped me understand that I was wrong/misled.

One of the things he talked about struggling with, is finding people who want to help him - because they WANT to help, and not because they are motivated by the need to eat or the desire for a certain lifestyle (if not plain greed). Real, charitable help - where those who can't pay simply don't have to, and those who CAN will WANT to, because it supports something good. For him it wasn't about not wanting to pay. He wants to be one of the people paying because he can and wants to; the transactional requirement is just a red flag for potential false charity. He struggled to find help he needed that fit this model.

He was talking mostly about counselors and psychologists and the like. But in principle he was describing the sort of model I want to follow for basically everything I do. What I want is to give freely and charitably of what I have to give, and receive back (also in the spirit of charity) enough to sustain myself and continue giving.

I think that's part of why he liked talking to me so much. It was obvious that I was talking to him because I cared and wanted to help.

He helped me realize that there probably ARE enough people out there who understand and value genuine charity highly enough, that what I want to do is not impossible at all. I just have to do it thoughtfully and with care. If I do it right, total expenses would be a tiny (TINY) fraction of what the average "nonprofit" would blow through doing something similar. Tiny enough that I could probably absorb the cost myself if we had any disposable income at all. So not even trying is kind of weak/lame.

It is not very surprising to me, at this point in my life, that the thing I've stomped my foot most petulantly about and been like "UGH I'M NOT DOING THAT, IT'S TOO HARD AND THE WORLD IS TOO STUPID AND PEOPLE SUCK TOO MUCH TO DO IT RIGHT" appears to be the very same thing that God very much wants me to do. (He does not bestow extraordinary gifts for no particular reason.)

What has been overwhelming is that since I quit the foot-stomping and the stubborn/belligerent refusal, and started thinking/praying along the lines of "okay, okay, I'll do it, but HOW?" I've been absolutely flooded with the specific resources I need to build what I'm building. And I've hardly had to touch money. Most of it has come to me as someone else's garbage, more or less.

So I've been thinking about Rob a lot through all of that.

He's further proof that God can use anyone. I HOPE that I've had a positive impact on his life, especially if this is the end of it. Because I KNOW he's had a positive impact on my life.

He wanted to be able to help me by giving me ADVICE about my own life, and I had to take all of that with a grain of salt. But he ended up helping me just by asking for help.

(He also helped me see that I'd basically been praying "NO!" *at God* in some ways, because I could not point the finger when I saw this behavior in him, without also seeing it in myself.)

How about that?

But it's like... it was such a neat thing to be setting up my little bootleg-startup bakery in my garage and organizing all these resources, and thinking about how cool it was that this random internet friend came along, unwittingly encouraging me to do something I'd never even talked about doing. Aside from my kids, he was going to be my first "apprentice" of sorts. I'd hoped that learning some basic cooking and kitchen management skills might be one of the many things that could add up to make a difference in his life and outlook.

And now it looks like my random internet friend who encouraged me and offered to help... might NOT be my first internet kitchen apprentice??

Now it looks like if I want to build a set of lessons and teach people... it might be, like... it turns out I'm NOT starting out teaching my friend who offered to help me - but instead teaching other people how to do these things... in honor/memory of my friend... ???

No. Nuh-uh. I don't need that, universe. Don't give me that.

THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AND ROB NEEDS TO GET. BACK. HERE. RIGHT. NOW.

I feel like I just time traveled back to 2001 and posted on my LIVEJOURNAL. Sorry not sorry. I'm not upset at anyone for wondering if he was a troll. But because he was always so worried about being a "bad person," I want the record to show that, at least from where I sit, he is basically a good kid who wants to see more virtue in the world in spite of being spiritually broken and needing a lot of help.
 

Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member
FWIW I think this thread would make Rob laugh. It's not like we never recklessly/secretively speculated about who might be a troll/AI bot.

I don't have any further updates at this time. I haven't wanted to bother his sister, and I also don't like the feeling that I might be fishing for bad news.

I'm just going to vomit some feels:

Even though I'm more or less in willful denial of the likelihood that I won't hear from him again, trying to remain positive even to the point of silliness, there has been an added heaviness in much of what I've been doing these days.

One of the reasons I hadn't had much time to talk to Rob recently is because I've been working on putting together something resembling a structured curriculum for my kids, now that they've hit highschool age.

My plan for several years has been to center their "formal education" around running a small bakery/kitchen (I doubt there's a subject you can't tie into that somehow!). While they are learning, it will be a hobby/charity endeavor, but will teach them everything they need to know to operate as a small business as well, by the time they're adults.

A few months ago Rob had asked me if I'd be willing to help him learn how to cook. I was like "funny you should ask because that's exactly what I'm gearing up to teach!" (I feel like I'm a lot more qualified for that than to give advice, too, lol.)

I had actually been toying with the idea of incorporating production of a small instructional video series into the program I'm building, where the kids would learn various skills, and then make a brief instructional video for the purpose of teaching others.

People have always begged me to teach them, or teach their kids, offering to throw money at me, so I know there is demand. More demand than I could ever keep up with teaching classes or lessons in-person. Since I'm not driven by the need or desire to make money, it makes sense to put what I have to teach down in an easily duplicated format instead, and just make it free. And have faith that as long as we do good and valuable work in the spirit of charity, we will receive enough support to continue doing so.

Rob seemed to think that was neat, and even offered (eventual) remote help with the technical/editing side of things.

So although we hadn't been talking much in recent weeks, he's been on my mind as I've been shuffling things around and re-tooling my home for this impending educational endeavor.

Recently I received a HUGE blessing in the form of an opportunity to salvage some equipment and bulk ingredients from the very same small bakery where I used to work, and where I basically "leveled up" from just knowing how to bake really well - to being able to run an entire small commercial enterprise on my own.

I don't think I could have asked for a clearer sign that I'm on the right track.

Ever since I was a kid, people have told me "You need to open your own restaurant/bakery someday! You need to teach lessons! You could make so much money!"

And I've been like "Shut up, I hate money"/"I'd rather stick a fork in my eye."

Internally, non-sarcastically, my position has always been that I wouldn't mind having a bakery, I wouldn't mind teaching, but I'm not motivated to do it to make money; I want to do it to serve God. When I was younger I wasn't sure how that would be possible. The world tells you that you have to go out and make a whole bunch of profit before being in any position to give labor away, and for a long time it looked like that was true.

Talking to Rob helped me understand that I was wrong/misled.

One of the things he talked about struggling with, is finding people who want to help him - because they WANT to help, and not because they are motivated by the need to eat or the desire for a certain lifestyle (if not plain greed). Real, charitable help - where those who can't pay simply don't have to, and those who CAN will WANT to, because it supports something good. For him it wasn't about not wanting to pay. He wants to be one of the people paying because he can and wants to; the transactional requirement is just a red flag for potential false charity. He struggled to find help he needed that fit this model.

He was talking mostly about counselors and psychologists and the like. But in principle he was describing the sort of model I want to follow for basically everything I do. What I want is to give freely and charitably of what I have to give, and receive back (also in the spirit of charity) enough to sustain myself and continue giving.

I think that's part of why he liked talking to me so much. It was obvious that I was talking to him because I cared and wanted to help.

He helped me realize that there probably ARE enough people out there who understand and value genuine charity highly enough, that what I want to do is not impossible at all. I just have to do it thoughtfully and with care. If I do it right, total expenses would be a tiny (TINY) fraction of what the average "nonprofit" would blow through doing something similar. Tiny enough that I could probably absorb the cost myself if we had any disposable income at all. So not even trying is kind of weak/lame.

It is not very surprising to me, at this point in my life, that the thing I've stomped my foot most petulantly about and been like "UGH I'M NOT DOING THAT, IT'S TOO HARD AND THE WORLD IS TOO STUPID AND PEOPLE SUCK TOO MUCH TO DO IT RIGHT" appears to be the very same thing that God very much wants me to do. (He does not bestow extraordinary gifts for no particular reason.)

What has been overwhelming is that since I quit the foot-stomping and the stubborn/belligerent refusal, and started thinking/praying along the lines of "okay, okay, I'll do it, but HOW?" I've been absolutely flooded with the specific resources I need to build what I'm building. And I've hardly had to touch money. Most of it has come to me as someone else's garbage, more or less.

So I've been thinking about Rob a lot through all of that.

He's further proof that God can use anyone. I HOPE that I've had a positive impact on his life, especially if this is the end of it. Because I KNOW he's had a positive impact on my life.

He wanted to be able to help me by giving me ADVICE about my own life, and I had to take all of that with a grain of salt. But he ended up helping me just by asking for help.

(He also helped me see that I'd basically been praying "NO!" *at God* in some ways, because I could not point the finger when I saw this behavior in him, without also seeing it in myself.)

How about that?

But it's like... it was such a neat thing to be setting up my little bootleg-startup bakery in my garage and organizing all these resources, and thinking about how cool it was that this random internet friend came along, unwittingly encouraging me to do something I'd never even talked about doing. Aside from my kids, he was going to be my first "apprentice" of sorts. I'd hoped that learning some basic cooking and kitchen management skills might be one of the many things that could add up to make a difference in his life and outlook.

And now it looks like my random internet friend who encouraged me and offered to help... might NOT be my first internet kitchen apprentice??

Now it looks like if I want to build a set of lessons and teach people... it might be, like... it turns out I'm NOT starting out teaching my friend who offered to help me - but instead teaching other people how to do these things... in honor/memory of my friend... ???

No. Nuh-uh. I don't need that, universe. Don't give me that.

THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AND ROB NEEDS TO GET. BACK. HERE. RIGHT. NOW.

I feel like I just time traveled back to 2001 and posted on my LIVEJOURNAL. Sorry not sorry. I'm not upset at anyone for wondering if he was a troll. But because he was always so worried about being a "bad person," I want the record to show that, at least from where I sit, he is basically a good kid who wants to see more virtue in the world in spite of being spiritually broken and needing a lot of help

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messaggera

Pelican
Woman
Other Christian
He's further proof that God can use anyone. I HOPE that I've had a positive impact on his life, especially if this is the end of it. Because I KNOW he's had a positive impact on my life.

Uncanny how times in our lives it is an individual who we will never met in person who ends up helping us to grow.

He wanted to be able to help me by giving me ADVICE about my own life, and I had to take all of that with a grain of salt. But he ended up helping me just by asking for help.

Glad you were the one @Kitty Tantrum who was always there for him in forum conversations. One could tell there was a connection with the posts.

As someone mentioned before on this thread no one wants to see someone suffer, and a form of defense from emotions is to jokingly (without malice) see the interaction as a larp. Less harm when to an ego than to him suffering.

As for praying, there is nothing wrong with providing a prayer example; which is different than public praying online. This is one of the benefits of this ladies forum - sharing prayers to be used in private.

I enjoyed the brief, informative, and respectful conversations with Rob Banks, and the forum interactions.

He did introduce Jay Dyer into the conversation; someone I was unfamiliar with at the time. But enjoyed the new information to research. Jay Dyer is an interesting character to say the least.
 

God's lonely asperger

Woodpecker
Protestant
Is Rob Banks fine? It's been almost a month since this thread was last bumped. Apologies if it's already been said here and I didn't realize.

:laughter: Instead of normal pictures used by young people, such as a frog in an army helmet!
This is also late, but I meant mostly the people from the old RVF. Going to page 1 of some old threads you see really weird stuff in general.
 
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