Politics & War Lounge

[BlackHussar]

Yep, perhaps Hitler thought they'll let it slide (like they did with Czechoslovakia, the coward Chamberlain waving his copy of the Munich Agreement and proclaiming "peace for our time") and sign a peace treaty afterwards.
Germans pleaded for peace with UK even later!

French and British hipocrisy and blatant ignorance of the protection treaty with Poland regarding the Soviet invasion also interests me.

They did declare war on the Germans in order not to lose face in front of their citizens and pretend to do something... especially after Czechoslovakia. Furthermore, their politicians probably finally grew a spine (and a brain) and realised that a line must have been drawn, otherwise Hitler would have swallowed half of Europe like he did with Austria and Czechoslovakia.

Germans and Soviets were co-belligerents and had a non-aggression pact - not strictly allies, but de facto so. Perhaps the Anglo-French didn't want to put them even more close together by declaring war on the Soviets - a full Soviet-German military alliance in 1939 would probably mean a catastrophe for, well, the entire world.

I can't still comprehend the fact how can 2 major powers simply IGNORE a treaty they have with a third country like that. Oh, the Soviets invaded Poland, too? Quite so, old chap, that doesn't interest us anymore, Poland has almost fallen anyway...

Would be great to hear some Britishmen and Frenchmen about this: what do your history books say about this?

 

[Once Was Not]

At a local Oktoberfest event they played the whole German anthem (gasp) and hung the East German flag upside down (why was it there to begin with).

Apparently this is some kind of travesty. Weird, that all sounds proper and fine to me.

Play the full anthem and fuck the commies and fuck having a divided Germany. Play Preußens Gloria as well. So catchy.

 

[Kurgan]

I was curious about the forum's thoughts on former President Richard Nixon. He had some red-pilled beliefs but I also thought he was paranoid. I'm confused as to why the Left hated him. He endorsed Keynesian economics.

 

[Richard Turpin]

I can't still comprehend the fact how can 2 major powers simply IGNORE a treaty they have with a third country like that. Oh, the Soviets invaded Poland, too? Quite so, old chap, that doesn't interest us anymore, Poland has almost fallen anyway...

Would be great to hear some Britishmen and Frenchmen about this: what do your history books say about this?

My son is up to WW2 now in his GCSE History. When I told him that the Soviets also invaded Poland 2 weeks after Germany, it blew his mind. I just don't think its been covered at all from what he's telling me. It completely dismantles the current narrative that the war was fought to free Poland! I've brought him up to question every facet of what's taught in the whole damn school, to look for primary sources where possible and look for bias in all things. Then make his own mind up. I've told him the teachers are full of shit.

Adults are worse. I take every opportunity to tell them stuff as well, just to see their 'thinking' faces for a few minutes before they go back to talking about Sportsball. Most of them don't know that we declared war on Germany first either. Or that millions of germans died after the war. Or that Germany built no Heavy Bombers for carpet-bombing babies, yet we and the US had loads from day 1.

I just make sure they bring the subject up first. One lad I work with was virtue-signalling to the office about going to Auschwitz. Nobody gave a fuck, but I took the opportunity to tell him how amazed I was to discover that 80% of it was a reconstruction. He predictably called me a holocaust denier! Then he ran off to google it and hasn't brought the subject up since.

Everyone in the UK just gets their WW2 programming from Hollywood, the History (Hitler) Channel and retarded leftie women teachers. Actually, not even that; they just don't give a fuck, lads only care about football, lasses care about X-Factor/buying things. Deviating from the Good guys/Bad guys story for WW2 even just a tad is too much for most people I bump into.

 

[Leonard D Neubache]

Fortunate for us that corporate video game companies are so desperate to write white men out of history that they're destroying their own holocaust indoctrination programs aimed at young Western male minds.

According to EA, WW2 was won by handi-capable women and minorities, thus making the most identifiable characters for today's young white men the Nazis.

 

[Eusebius]

I was in the education system in the 80s and 90s. Sure, the Holocaust narrative was quite prevalent back then too. But it was just part of the WW2 story - less than 50% of the focus. Now, it seems that the Holocaust is almost the entirety of the story of the 1940s. And Germans back then were seen as German people - many civilians, some in the military, a few of them Nazis. Now all have been completely dehumanized as eeevil Nazis in popular culture.

 

[Parras]

Anybody see the Tucker Carlson vs. Cenk Uygur debate? Pretty interesting.

 

[JackinMelbourne]

I can't still comprehend the fact how can 2 major powers simply IGNORE a treaty they have with a third country like that. Oh, the Soviets invaded Poland, too? Quite so, old chap, that doesn't interest us anymore, Poland has almost fallen anyway...

Would be great to hear some Britishmen and Frenchmen about this: what do your history books say about this?

You might need to post this question in the JQ thread I think... but weren't City of London and Moskva's backers on the same "team" if you know what I mean?

WAR, what is it good for? Thinning the herd, stifling competition and devaluing nations for cheap labour and resources.

 

[scotian]

I BOUGHT USED VOTING MACHINES ON EBAY FOR $100 APIECE. WHAT I FOUND WAS ALARMING: https://www.wired.com/story/i-bought-used-voting-machines-on-ebay/

 

[Kurgan]

I was thinking about the BS "Trump colluded with Russia" story and I just thought. Democrats want a Cold War with Russia because they were butthurt Republicans ended it and not them. Just some food for thought.

 

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

While browsing for a suitable !Jeb meme for another occasion, I came upon this:

 

[Once Was Not]

Looks like it's getting to be that time of year for those hilarious "pls send moneys to Israel goyim we need helps to feedings our peoples" commercials to start airing.

I guess the 46 Billion dollars a year isn't enough help to feed your massive 8.7 million population for the holidays.

 

[Ember]

I have just discovered how much I have been brainwashed by the media about George Galloway. Holy crap! He utterly destroys the (((neocon))) warmongers on the US Senate committee. What a performance! I now have to re-examine everything I thought about the guy.

 

[Richard Turpin]

I have just discovered how much I have been brainwashed by the media about George Galloway. Holy crap! He utterly destroys the (((neocon))) warmongers on the US Senate committee. What a performance! I now have to re-examine everything I thought about the guy.

Yeah, Rotekz, I get your point. The media have undoubtedly 'coloured' most people's view on Galloway, expecially in the UK. Probably because of his views on Israel I would guess.

Some (a lot, maybe) of what he says does make good sense, you're right. But it's a bit like David Icke, there's always a sticking point (or two) that I for one, can't get past in order to accept them fully.

On some matters, like the EU, he's an ally of people like Nigel Farage! Something he acknowledged himself "we are not friends, we are allied in the same cause" I think he said. Unfortunately, this doesn't mean that he is a friend of native English people judging by his promotion of Islam. I'm sure I once read that Galloway was now a Muslim himself.

But, his attacks do seem to upset all the right people! Who knows.

 

[amity]

Galloway has some good talking points but he's ultimately for the ethnic replacement of native Brits.
He sees no problem with the browning of Britain generally, often speaking glowingly of mixed race relationships and kids. Not good.

 

[Richard Turpin]

Galloway has some good talking points but he's ultimately for the ethnic replacement of native Brits.
He sees no problem with the browning of Britain generally, often speaking glowingly of mixed race relationships and kids. Not good.

That there is one of those pesky sticking points I was referring to. Bit of a deal-breaker to be honest.

 

[budoslavic]

At the 43 minute mark, he talked about "the sinister wish list", which is disturbing and will blow your mind.

Video description:

The Terrible Truth About the UN Migration Compact

Stefan Molyneux
Published on Nov 16, 2018
In December 2018, world leaders gather to sign the UN Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration - a disaster for Western countries which virtually eliminates property rights and free speech, enshrining the right for everyone to enter Western countries and live off the taxpayer.

Global Compact
The Global Compact for Migration is the first-ever UN global agreement on a common approach to international migration in all its dimensions. The global compact is non-legally binding. It is grounded in values of state sovereignty, responsibility-sharing, non-discrimination, and human rights, and recognizes that a cooperative approach is needed to optimize the overall benefits of migration, while addressing its risks and challenges for individuals and communities in countries of origin, transit and destination.

The global compact comprises 23 objectives for better managing migration at local, national, regional and global levels. The compact:

aims to mitigate the adverse drivers and structural factors that hinder people from building and maintaining sustainable livelihoods in their countries of origin;

intends to reduce the risks and vulnerabilities migrants face at different stages of migration by respecting, protecting and fulfilling their human rights and providing them with care and assistance;

seeks to address the legitimate concerns of states and communities, while recognizing that societies are undergoing demographic, economic, social and environmental changes at different scales that may have implications for and result from migration;

strives to create conducive conditions that enable all migrants to enrich our societies through their human, economic and social capacities, and thus facilitate their contributions to sustainable development at the local, national, regional and global levels...

 

[Foolsgo1d]

Some countries have/are pulling out but the big boys - France, Germany, UK, Denmark, Sweden have not. Third world gmmiegrants are not interested in the FSU or Balklands.

 

[Batka]

Galloway has some good talking points but he's ultimately for the ethnic replacement of native Brits.
He sees no problem with the browning of Britain generally, often speaking glowingly of mixed race relationships and kids. Not good.

That there is one of those pesky sticking points I was referring to. Bit of a deal-breaker to be honest.

If Western Government had listened to Galloway, there would have been no wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria and the Middle East would have been a far stabler region than it is today. All of these silly imperialist follies have given us blowback, i.e. terrorism and mass migration.

 

[Easy_C]

The sick irony of above comment:

SJWs are fighting tooth and nail to defend an Imperialist establishment, all the while convinced that they're standing up to "white supremacy" and are "decolonizing" the world.