precious metals. anyone?

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Jaydublin

Pelican
BIGINJAPAN said:
3. The Canadian Maple is a better investment. Usually a tad bit cheaper and it is .9999 pure silver.

As far as silver maples go, that is definately opinion. Being .9999 doesn't matter except
For all the damn milk spots. I've seen dealers
Refuse to pay over spot for previously sealed tubes because they were full of milk spots.

Also, they come in very loose fitting tubes of 25.
 

bacon

Ostrich
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im long uslv i think silver and gold are going to do very well in 2013 so why play physical when you can play a leveraged etf? silver will out perform gold in my opinion. but both metals should do well in the next few months. the new money printing is extremely bullish for the metals (they just started the printing for QE to infinity the begining of this month). right now gold and silver are in a bearish view so this is a great time to get into the market.
 

nash23

Pigeon
BIGINJAPAN said:
nash23 said:
I'm in the process of selling all my properties and reallocating all my funds into physical silver (specifically American Silver Eagles), and getting back into the workforce, so I don't have to sell silver to cover my living expenses. I've done indepth research on silver, and I'm expecting silver prices to increase 20-50x in the next 2-5 years.

Before you claim that I'm smoking pot, go do your own research - Michael Maloney's "Debt Collapse" video on youtube is a good start.


1. never put all money into one asset. Especially one so heavily manipulated by 3 banks to keep the price lower. Have you read what happened to the Hunt brothers in the 80's ?

2. Do you have any idea how much weight or room silver takes up if it is a sizable investment ? Probably best to buy some gold so you can transport things a little easier. Also buy bigger bars, not just coins. Of course get yourself a shotgun and handgun to protect your wealth if it is just going to be sitting in a room in your house.

3. The Canadian Maple is a better investment. Usually a tad bit cheaper and it is .9999 pure silver.



I hear you. I'm a usual advocate for diversification too. But with the US Fed's zero interest rate policy, its creating unsustainable bubbles everywhere - property, stocks, bonds (especially treasuries) - at some point interest rates will have to go up and this should lead to a pretty painful correction. And with all this money printing, really the only asset close that would go up are precious metals and hard commodities. Yes, there's absolutely manipulation in gold and silver prices, and this itself is also going to be unsustainable, the physical market especially for silver is getting tighter. I'm not levering my investments, and putting in money that I don't have to touch for at least five years, so I'm just going to keep stacking while its dirt cheap. And yeah, I'm small potatoes compared to the Hunt brothers haha

I'm living in Singapore, so I'm buying and storing in a private vault in Singapore, secured and insured.

I'm buying Amercian Silver Eagles rather than Canandian maples or bars because there's a legislation that restricts the US mint to only US mined silver. In a bubble, when silver supply is tight, the US may stop minting coins to retain US mined silver as "strategic reserves" (silver is one of the most useful metals in industry), so buying now might be like buying a Van Gogh painting before he died. Also govt minted coins would be better than a bar, because in a crazy bubble market (when every man and his dog are trying to buy silver), it would be easier to sell these coins because they're universally recognised and harder to counterfeit.

I would generally stay away from ETFs and any sort of levered paper positions, because of the counterparty risks. There's a good chance the financial system/banks could implode because of the financial derivatives in the system, and gold/silver bubble and this event could be inter-linked, so I want to make sure my silver is on hand to sell when the markets crazy, instead of being stuck in the banking/financial markets system.
 

BIGINJAPAN

Kingfisher
I agree the policies are doing nothing but helping our cause. But don't under estimate the power of the Central Banks. I also agree stocks, real estate and bonds especially are a gigantic bubble. But things like the Canadian currency isn't so bad. Singapore dollar I like and of course the Norwegian Kronar. Real estate in some markets is not a bad idea. Still a lot of cheap places to buy property around the globe. I think the US is looking attractive in some markets. Of course places like Greece, Spain and Portugal will be a great buy soon.
 

Vienna

Kingfisher
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BIGINJAPAN said:
... Of course places like Greece, Spain and Portugal will be a great buy soon.

For someone who's just getting into stocks etc. and still very green, could you explain why Greece, Spain and Portugal might be great buys soon?
 

thegmanifesto

Peacock
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BIGINJAPAN said:
I agree the policies are doing nothing but helping our cause. But don't under estimate the power of the Central Banks. I also agree stocks, real estate and bonds especially are a gigantic bubble.

You think real estate is still in a bubble?
 

bacon

Ostrich
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darianfrey, im no economist but these countries along with italy and ireland (france?) are in way over there head. the countries owe a shit load to bankers and basically they are going to go through austerity. when the pain gets too much for the citizens they typically try to overthrow the government or extremist groups get elected. greece has an extremist party which almost won the last election. spain is dealing with possible succession in the catalonian region(near barcelona). basically expect shit to go down in this part of the world soon. actually the USA will deal with this soon also but because of the dollars reserve status and the fact the the federal reserve can print money they dont have to be responisble for their debt or future entilements like european countries. how you play this in my opinion is "buy when there is blood in the streets"-jp morgan. i would invest in (real estate or stocks specific to these countries) or play precious metals as there is no counter party risk and it is the ultimate greed/fear play for your money. but you should read, youtube max keiser for good comentary on the economics of these countries, usa included.
 

Jaydublin

Pelican
thegmanifesto said:
BIGINJAPAN said:
I agree the policies are doing nothing but helping our cause. But don't under estimate the power of the Central Banks. I also agree stocks, real estate and bonds especially are a gigantic bubble.

You think real estate is still in a bubble?

Was it ever actually allowed to hit a bottom? Where does it go if interest rates are
Not artificially held at zero? Just questions I have
 

BIGINJAPAN

Kingfisher
thegmanifesto said:
BIGINJAPAN said:
I agree the policies are doing nothing but helping our cause. But don't under estimate the power of the Central Banks. I also agree stocks, real estate and bonds especially are a gigantic bubble.

You think real estate is still in a bubble?

Well in a lot of places the bubble hasn't popped yet. In Canada, Australia, Hong Kong, China, Singapore. Even the US is seeing bubbles form again in California. Now that all these hedge funds realized they are going to get fucked by the FEDs buy back program they are selling all there inventory. This year there will be massive sell offs in real estate again in the US because all these hedge funds were trying to generate alpha in residential real estate. Now I don't think it will be an epic collapse nationwide again, but I still think the average home price still has another 20% drop nation wide. It is barely hanging on with all time low rates, but with no one working full time in a descent job, it is just a matter of time until the bottom falls out again
 

maestrobaires

Woodpecker
of you guys in the know. is there anyone willing to give a hand throwing a webinar? the above mentioned guy rocks in making events and webinars that are really moving and shaking

thanks for a valuable input
 

BIGINJAPAN

Kingfisher
Sanblz33 said:
jmoney29 said:
Do any of you guys buy silver/gold coins for numismatic value? I've seen that sometimes numis. value is greater than bullion value, example: http://www.coinflation.com/coins/1932-1964-Silver-Washington-Quarter-Value.html .


Bullion is A LOT easier to sell when the time comes.

Agreed. Pretty much everyone on the planet knows that gold has value. They might not know the exact value but everyone knows you can easily exchange it for cash or other items of value. But less than .001% I am sure could tell you the value of a numismatic coin. I personally have been on the precious metals bandwagon for almost 7 years now and I don't have a clue about anything relating to numismatic's
 
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