Predicitons for Democrat candidate in 2020?

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
I know Biden is Deep State, oligarch puppet all that.

Imagine as a normal person being him though. You are going senile. You are going up against a boisterous ex-TV show host gaudy trashtalking billionaire in Trump. Now beyond those two obstacles you have the pandemic going on, a sequel to the Great Depression is cascading down onto the country. You have an OnlyFans account you made with a fake name SlickWilly, you think you deleted the app and your trail but you can never quite remember. You are in pre-recorded, practiced shoots for media and you blunder phrase after phrase. You have a very credible sex allegation against you. You have reels of pictures and tape showing you be unusually handsy with women of all ages. Your son got dirty money in Ukraine everyone knows about that you facilitated. Half the country is live or die with you because they hate Trump. You are old and could die anyday, the rona could get you as well.

If you miraculously get elected against all these odds and walk into the West Wing in January how do you feel and what do you think when your cabinet swarms you, Obama is on line 1, Hillary is on hold on line 2, and Soros is on hold on line 3, Zuckerberg on 4 all lining up their favors?
Most presidents are puppets.
With Bumbling Biden.
We'd see levels of presidential puppetry previously unheard of...?
 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
Abrams for VP is a great pick by the Democrats. I think Abrams as VP on a ticket with Newsome or Cuomo + a spike in coronavirus this fall + the mainstream media narrative = certain victory for them.

I don't think Biden as President gets them over the hump. It might, but his lack of cognitive ability will scare away the in the middle voters.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
Abrams for VP is a great pick by the Democrats. I think Abrams as VP on a ticket with Newsome or Cuomo + a spike in coronavirus this fall + the mainstream media narrative = certain victory for them.

I don't think Biden as President gets them over the hump. It might, but his lack of cognitive ability will scare away the in the middle voters.
Yet on the other hand. Noting the whole 'Blexit' thing.
What does Abrams really offer?
Charisma?
Savvy soundbites?
A personality that encourages folk to follow & vote?
Or a mere token ethnic background & nothing else? Pun intended.
 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
Yet on the other hand. Noting the whole 'Blexit' thing.
What does Abrams really offer?
Charisma?
Savvy soundbites?
A personality that encourages folk to follow & vote?
Or a mere token ethnic background & nothing else? Pun intended.
What does she really offer, as to fix our country? Absolutely nothing.

What does she offer to win an election. The same things Obama offered, which you pretty much listed in your post.

Does that give the Democrats the win this fall? Not by itself, they need someone better than Biden to push them over the line, I think. Also depends on coronavirus and if it flares up this fall or not.
 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
I think having a president with advanced dementia and the nuclear football would give all of us a sense that we had to get our affairs in order, make peace with God and spend more time with our loved ones.

Biden 2020
LOL, I have heard people talking about how France will be a majority Muslim country by 20xx. At that point the Muslims will have full control of nuclear weapons.

Forget that, lets speed it up and just give nuclear weapons to a man who thinks it is 1975 half of the day.
 

8ball

Kingfisher
Bidens and the democrats main hope is the corona virus media focus will be high enough to hide biden as much as possible. The more media coverege he gets the more gafs and more chances for Trump & Co to shred him. Notice how whenever trump speaks about biden in public its always as if he is talking about a demented uncle, "i always thought he was a nice guy", "i dont think he wrote that about me in twitter, it was someone else." Its a great strategy.


Reopening the economy is obviously bad news for them, the more people get on with their lives, the less attention they will pay to pandemic porn news.
 

Blade Runner

Kingfisher
Abrams for VP is a great pick by the Democrats. I think Abrams as VP on a ticket with Newsome or Cuomo + a spike in coronavirus this fall + the mainstream media narrative = certain victory for them.

I don't think Biden as President gets them over the hump. It might, but his lack of cognitive ability will scare away the in the middle voters.
You keep finding new ways to outdo yourself here.

 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
You keep finding new ways to outdo yourself here.

The discussion of this thread is the potential Democratic candidate. If you actually think who wins this election matters then I feel bad for you.

I am discussing the potential candidates. Abrams is a great choice for them as VP to win the election. She will bring a lot to a campaign that Biden, or even a Newsome/Cuomo would lack to draw up excitement in the Democrat voter base.

The Democrats want to win, but only within certain parameters. The Democrats would crush Trump if they ran Bernie, but Bernie is outside the parameters and gets people to start to ask too much from our govt. Biden and Abrams are well within the parameters and as a team pose a very real threat to Trump/Pence.
 

Tail Gunner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
The discussion of this thread is the potential Democratic candidate. If you actually think who wins this election matters then I feel bad for you.

I am discussing the potential candidates. Abrams is a great choice for them as VP to win the election. She will bring a lot to a campaign that Biden, or even a Newsome/Cuomo would lack to draw up excitement in the Democrat voter base.

The Democrats want to win, but only within certain parameters. The Democrats would crush Trump if they ran Bernie, but Bernie is outside the parameters and gets people to start to ask too much from our govt. Biden and Abrams are well within the parameters and as a team pose a very real threat to Trump/Pence.
Almost everything that you said is utter nonsense. The Democrats will not choose two laughing-stock candidates -- and ensure their defeat. Because of Biden's age and dementia, they need a plausible VP candidate who can take over for Biden. The best candidate for VP is an experienced sitting governor. Think Trump, a novice politician, choosing Pence. The next best is a former governor. The next best is one of the presidential candidates who has been thoroughly vetted. The next best is a U.S. Senator. Abrams has zero experience, has not been vetted as a presidential candidate, and is a walking freak show. She would be a disaster at the best of times, much less as someone a heartbeat away from someone with obvious dementia. If Biden chooses a candidate based purely on identity politics, rather than competency, he loses the moderate center and ensures his own defeat. This is all quite obvious. I honestly hope that Biden is demented enough to choose Abrams. It would ensure a Trump victory.
 
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It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
Almost everything that you said is utter nonsense. The Democrats will not choose two laughing-stock candidates -- and ensure their defeat. Because of Biden's age and dementia, they need a plausible VP candidate who can take over for Biden. The best candidate for VP is an experienced sitting governor. Think Trump, a novice politician, choosing Pence. The next best is a former governor. The next best is one of the presidential candidates who has been thoroughly vetted. The next best is a U.S. Senator. Abrams has zero experience, has not been vetted as a presidential candidate, and is a walking freak show. She would be a disaster at the best of times, much less as someone a heartbeat away from someone with obvious dementia. If Biden chooses a candidate based purely on identity politics, rather than competency, he loses the moderate center and ensures his own defeat. This is all quite obvious. I honestly hope that Biden is demented enough to choose Abrams. It would ensure a Trump victory.
I don't think there are many left in the middle politically. Most of those in the middle are senior citizens and I don't think Abrams moves the needle either way in this group and doesn't hurt the Democrats much.

The problem for the Democrats isn't capturing the middle. The problem for the Democrats is getting their base energized enough to come out to vote for Biden. And that will be hard to do with Biden and some other boring life long DC creature. With Abrams they can sell the diversity angle, the woman angle, the outside of DC angle, and she is very popular among the younger/minority/woman base who feels demoralized after seeing another white male picked for their candidate.

Biden said he would pick a woman. I think his best choices are Abrams and Goofy and I believe Abrams brings more to the table by energizing the young base.
 
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Tail Gunner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I don't think there are many left in the middle politically. Most of those in the middle are senior citizens and I don't think Abrams moves the needle either way in this group and doesn't hurt the Democrats much.

The problem for the Democrats isn't capturing the middle. The problem for the Democrats is getting their base energized enough to come out to vote for Biden. And that will be hard to do with Biden and some other boring life long DC creature. With Abrams they can sell the diversity angle, the woman angle, the outside of DC angle, and she is very popular among the younger/minority/woman base who feels demoralized after seeing another white male picked for their candidate.

Biden said he would pick a woman. I think his best choices are Abrams and Goofy and I believe Abrams brings more to the table by energizing the young base.
Biden needs the union workers and disaffected blue collar workers in the swing states. So does Trump. Abrams does nothing to draw those voters to Biden and, in fact, does the exact opposite: it strongly repels them. Biden getting a massive turnout among Democrats and winning the popular vote through a high turnout in the blue states does absolutely nothing for Biden. Just ask Hillary.
 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
Biden needs the union workers and disaffected blue collar workers in the swing states. So does Trump. Abrams does nothing to draw those voters to Biden and, in fact, does the exact opposite: it strongly repels them. Biden getting a massive turnout among Democrats and winning the popular vote through a high turnout in the blue states does absolutely nothing for Biden. Just ask Hillary.
The polling I have seen in these states (Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn) looks bad for Trump, not for the Democrats. So if I had to guess, the Democrats are worried less about this dwindling number of voters and worried more about the youth voting base they have demoralized by kicking Bernie out again.

I guess we will see how the Democrats play it.
 
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