Predicitons for Democrat candidate in 2020?

911

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Can't see this happening, if Biden ends up winning, he's just like her, and maybe a bit more likeable by Rust Belt some blue collar voters. And if Bernie wins and Hillary steals it, the BBros are never going to be placated.

To play the devil's witch's advocate, what she wants is for none of the leaders to drop out in order to split the vote. The only way she could barge in is if the leader/winner gets less than a third of the total vote.
 

Dr. Howard

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perros said:
Tasi said:
I tell you what, these democrat babies really do need to start punching each other if they want to be ready for Trump.

Think about the republican primaries in 2016. By thing point Trump was already trading blows pretty fiercely with any other republicans who came up in the polls.

These democrats are just friendly slapping each other like "ooh not in the face okay, that stings" and are not ready for Trump to pound them in the teeth.

You think he's going to wait to pull out the Pochahontas stuff on Warren, the Creepy Joe on Biden or Communism on Bernie? No way, he's going to beat them over the head with that on day 1. None of them are ready.
Completely agree.
You can bet Trump will have a nickname for the next candidate, that he would of tested out at his events. If it's Sanders the ads are going to get really bad for him (socialist, etc). I'm not sure how the independents will vote for Sanders.

With Warren he probably would put the real decedent of Pocahontas in the crowd and then try to force Warren to apologize for lying about her race.

And what can they say about Trump? Orange man bad. Nobody gives a f**k.

Biden is probably the easiest candidate to defend, but who wants establishment?
Establishment got defeated with Hillary (and remember pretty much all the Unions supported Hillary), nobody is going to wake up and say give me the b***s**** establishment again please.

Are you serious? Some of you are living in a bubble about leftist populism, the same way many democrats lived in a bubble when it came to Donald Trump in 2016 when no one thought he could win. Don't underestimate leftist populism or the leftist populist candidate Bernie Sanders.

Trump's nickname for Bernie (Crazy Bernie) is not only weak but its not going to land as much as people think. To me, Trump will have a hard time with Bernie the most out of all the candidates. Based on the nickname he gave him suggests to me that Trump really has no answers for Bernie. Calling him a socialist and a communist is not really going to land either. You have to remember that calling democrats socialists and communists is equivalent to the left calling right-wingers racists and bigots. None of those land, and basing your campaign on just that is not going to win you an election. People are hurting and are susceptible to be influenced by an anti-establishment leftist candidate like Bernie Sanders.

I'm not sure how the independents will vote for Sanders.
Dude,lol, the guy is an independent, and has been an independent the majority of his life, where have you been? That's literally his main demographic. He's more likely to get crossover voters than any of the establishment democrats.



I agree with you on Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren. I believe Trump could easily defeat them, although I would have liked for Trump to have picked a better nickname for Biden. "Sleep Joe Biden" is ok, but I personally would have chosen "handsy Joe Biden" or something to that effect.



Pocahontas is pretty good, but I think Trump's nickname game has taken a step back quite a bit.

I personally don't like his "Keep America Great" slogan either. It reminds me too much of Hillary's "America is already great" or Obama's "My healthy economy". It gives the implication that everything is alright and no changes need to be made which is further from the truth. If I were Trump I would just keep the same "Make America Great Again" and run the same populist playbook and let people know that you are making progress, but there's still a lot of work to be done. If he runs on how the economy is so great (Obama and Hillary Strategy) and faces a guy like Bernie Sanders, then Trump's going to lose.
I'll give you my opinion based upon the state in which I live, which is currently the swing state of Wisconsin. It has your ride or die bernie supporters which are young people and hippies in Madison and Milwaukee, your race based voters and immigrants but you know where the rest of the democrat voters come from? Current and retired Union workers from heavy industries like manufacturing and construction. They held their noses and voted for Hillary and would vote for Bloomberg or Biden with no problems.

Tell them to vote for Bernie though, when the attack angle is that he's a communist, loves socialism and people not having to work hard? These old harley riding union guys are going to freak out at that prospect.
 

Easy_C

Crow
911 said:
Can't see this happening, if Biden ends up winning, he's just like her, and maybe a bit more likeable by Rust Belt some blue collar voters. And if Bernie wins and Hillary steals it, the BBros are never going to be placated.

To play the devil's witch's advocate, what she wants is for none of the leaders to drop out in order to split the vote. The only way she could barge in is if the leader/winner gets less than a third of the total vote.
They can use the supers to split it and make this happen.

Think about it from the party bosses's perspective. Most likely the line of thought is "well, Hillary won the popular vote and now everyone knows how horrible Trump is AND demographics are more in our favor!"
 

Number one bummer

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'Nobody likes him' - Hillary Clinton bashes Bernie Sanders

Hillary Clinton criticized the campaign of her former Democratic presidential rival Bernie Sanders in a new documentary in which she says he was an ineffective U.S. senator who accomplished little because “nobody liked him.”

Clinton also weighed in on the dispute between Sanders and 2020 Democratic presidential rival Elizabeth Warren centering around the electability of women, saying Sanders demonstrated “a pattern” in how his campaign attacked women rivals.

The criticism, made in a Hulu documentary to be shown at the Sundance Film Festival on Saturday and an interview promoting it, revealed lingering bitterness toward Sanders after he mounted an unexpected Democratic primary challenge to Clinton in 2016. Clinton backers blame Sanders’ supporters for tarnishing her with vitriolic criticism that helped put Republican Donald Trump in the White House.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-idUSKBN1ZK233
The left establishment is all in to knife Bernie right before Iowa. I thought Warren trying #metoo him and the debate moderator asking him a "have you stopped beating your wife?" type question was bad enough, but they are pulling it all out.
 

Leonard D Neubache

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Hillary is surrounded by such fawning yes-men that she doesn't realise most Americans would reliably bet on the opposite of whatever she claims to be the case.

Hillary Clinton criticized the campaign of her former Democratic presidential rival Bernie Sanders in a new documentary in which she says he was an ineffective U.S. senator who accomplished little because “nobody liked him.”
Still not learning from 2016 eh, Hill? The surest sign someone isn't an outright bought-and-paid-for crony for the elites is that they are "ineffective" and "nobody (meaning the rest of the crooks) likes them".

As they say, it is as good to be admired by the admirable as it is to be despised by the despicable. Hillary's support is the kiss of death for every undecided vote that might have been coaxed back from Trump's grasp.
 

911

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Exactly Len, this is really going to help Bernie against Trump, big time, if he somehow manages to make it through the primary and DNC shenanigans.
 

Thomas Jackson

Woodpecker
Biden looks to be moving ahead in recent Iowa polls. If he and Bernie split Iowa/NH most of the other candidates will drop out, advantage Biden, but hopefully the Bernie bros feel screwed again and it hurts Biden in the general.
 
The Sanders campaign had now mulitiple violent Antifa blokes coming out with re-education gulags for Trump voters and the like. This would be a disaster among normies if TV ads were created out of it.


I don't think that the true elite wants Sanders either to run as a candidate nor of course to win. The US is not yet ready for full marxism - maybe in 2 decades....
 
Simeon_Strangelight said:
The Sanders campaign had now mulitiple violent Antifa blokes coming out with re-education gulags for Trump voters and the like. This would be a disaster among normies if TV ads were created out of it.

I don't think that the true elite wants Sanders either to run as a candidate nor of course to win. The US is not yet ready for full marxism - maybe in 2 decades....
I agree. I think the elites want anyone but Bernie at this time. The problem is they already screwed him out of it in 2016 and he might be more popular now than in 2016. He is like the overeager assistant revealing the big plan before it is time. The elites want someone like Bernie, but not for a decade or two. American isn't quite ready for full blown Marxism yet.

I'm just not sure how they stop him this time. The other Democrat candidates are a disaster and Trump has nothing to run on. I guess grab your popcorn and wait and see.
 
Say what you want about Bernie Sanders - he is the most ideologically consistent of all the 2020 Democratic candidates, whether those campaigns are extant or extinct.

Yes, he may have three homes and be a millionaire, yet he hasn’t whored himself out to credit card companies like Biden or corporations generally like Warren.

The Bernie Sanders of 1985 is the Bernie Sanders of 2019.

Pillory his ideas as much as you want but he has a spine the others lack. I give credit where credit is due.
 

Dusty

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david.garrett84 said:
Say what you want about Bernie Sanders - he is the most ideologically consistent of all the 2020 Democratic candidates, whether those campaigns are extant or extinct.

Yes, he may have three homes and be a millionaire, yet he hasn’t whored himself out to credit card companies like Biden or corporations generally like Warren.

The Bernie Sanders of 1985 is the Bernie Sanders of 2019.

Pillory his ideas as much as you want but he has a spine the others lack. I give credit where credit is due.

The Bernie Sanders of 2019 isn’t even the Bernie Sanders of 2015.

 

DamienCasanova

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david.garrett84 said:
Say what you want about Bernie Sanders - he is the most ideologically consistent of all the 2020 Democratic candidates, whether those campaigns are extant or extinct.

Yes, he may have three homes and be a millionaire, yet he hasn’t whored himself out to credit card companies like Biden or corporations generally like Warren.

The Bernie Sanders of 1985 is the Bernie Sanders of 2019.

Pillory his ideas as much as you want but he has a spine the others lack. I give credit where credit is due.
... a lying communist marxist leninist hypocritical cuck piece of shit, who got beaten into submission by Hillary Clinton's goons, who lets large swarthy loudmouth ladies steal his podium and microphone, who wants to destroy the economy, education and healthcare systems, and then wants to put you and your entire tribe into a gulag or up against a wall.

But at least he's still got his principles, he only takes other people's money, not Visa's...amirite?
 
Sanders is a communist who praised Venezuela and various other communist regimes.

That he makes sense in terms of wages, disposable income etc - or did in the past - that does not matter.

You never ever elect a commie - period.

Sure - Obama was likely a commie too like his real dad and the US can stomach a lot of bad policies or even presidents contrary to Venezuela.

But still - a lot of his solutions are insane - propping up the crazy US educational gulag system with taxpayer money is a trillion-dollar-sinkhole idea. There are others and the bloke changed his tune constantly in the past as most politicians do.

Bernie making the 80.000$-gender-studies-degree free is just a Stalinist disaster

Though it's true that the guy is less controllable than the rest of the bootlickers in the DNC. But ultimately they will trot out Biden, Warren or Bloomberg in order to be defeated by Trump.

Trump delivered for the globalist establishment more or less - he placated the local Whites for a few years while keeping the ship running more or less in line. He only blocked them on the big wars so far, but Iran isn't going anywhere. Another future Obama or Hillary/Bush bootlicker will do what he is being ordered to do.

And you don't know his constant flipping on issues because haven't seen a compilation - his stance on gays etc. certainly changed over the years just as among the rest of the lot.
 
We should have gone for Ron Paul. At the very least he would have gone after elite vis vis Federal Reserve and War Machine.

And had he been elected instead of Obama back in 2008, There would have been no Syrian and Ukraine wars or attempted coup (successful in the latter one). Lives lost and economical destruction averted.

Makes the whole Obama' s presidency sickening. AND half of the population consisting mostly of "educated" women voted for the most ruthless politician to grace United States in the election......can't top that
 
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