Predictions for the 2020s

[Aizen]

As we approach a new decade, I thought it would be prudent to ask the men of this forum what they think of the coming 2020s. The 1920s brought the era of Great Gatsby and "flappers"; a hundred years later, where will things stand?

Here are a few predictions on my end:

- Smartphone/screen addiction will become near universal. Some "progressives" will opt to have technology embedded in their bodies.
- The US and the West will continue on its gradual decline. The majority of people will still fail to notice, as they are too engrossed in their screens to care (see point 1). The frog boils slowly.
- Inequality will continue to grow, with the ultra rich living in incredible oppulence, and the majority working wage-slave jobs to cater to the richests' every whim.
- China's middle and upper-middle class will become the biggest in the world, with consumption and quality-of-life rising substantially in the East.
- Africa will be under soft-colonization by China, but they likely won't care because it's better than it was before.
- Women will continue to lower in quality, mostly due to ill societal influence (see point 1), and men will continue to lap at their feet in increasingly greater numbers.

The 20s of the future is almost upon us; what do you imagine this new decade will bring?

 

[Transsimian]

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I'm mostly a pessimist

There will the be a second Scottish independence referendum, and the SNP still won't accept it when they lose.
An increasingly wealthy India with their insane M:F ratios will bring thirst to a new level.
China's asset bubble will crash, but the Party will endure, and they'll continue in a middle income trap due to isolation. Aging won't be a problem for the next few years if the retirement age is raised.
Media/Social media would be increasingly concentrated in the West unless Trump somehow breaks it up in his second term.
Taiwan declares independence, but there's no war.

Italy is the only developed Western country to keep its culture and ethnic nature.

 

[Eusebius]

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The elite media and liberal establishment will so completely lose their remaining credibility that it just won't be necessary to "red pill" anyone; everyone will know that the surface we are presented with is a lie. We're almost there. This is a state analogous to the late Soviet Union.

 

[tomzestatlu]

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I don´t see anything positive, what can future bring us in terms of people, technology and well-being.
And the pesimistic attitude is so strong, that actually I wish something big and horrible to happen. I will spend these 20s in my most productive age and I even don´t know if I want to bring children into this world or share my life with somebody.
We need complete restart, tear down old structures and let live only the strongest people.

I am even surprised by what I have just wrote, because I am living normal life as others do. But how can a young man see things differently, when I don´t see anything positive future. The only thing I can do is to focus just on myself and get the most just for myself. And that makes me product of this shitty society.

 

[Rorogue]

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If you're a hetero Male, or white, you'd better build a spiritual life, because you will have less room to maneuver in the physical realm (in the west). Appreciate the quaint, small things, and work on steady personal improvement.

 

[Hermetic Seal]

RE: Prediction for the 20s

Technology and Media:

- There will continue to be a growing contingent of people disillusioned with the digital lifestyle who abandon smartphones, for varying reasons on the ideological spectrum. A desire to return to a simpler lifestyle forms an unlikely bond between people on the right, left, and middle fed up with technological oversaturation.
- Facebook will cease to be relevant and its userbase dramatically drops. Large corporations like Amazon and Google will be viewed with increasing suspicion and start to face real financial struggles. Instawhoring starts to become social taboo, but is still popular.
- Public distrust of the media will increase asymptotically. Hollywood begins to struggle with insane production costs and shrinking viewership.
- The Internet will become more regulated, freedom of expression will become rare and dangerous as doxxings, hacks, and breaches make it risky to express views online.
- YouTube no longer allows views to the right of Steven Crowder. Molyneux, Ramzpaul, Vox Day, etc. will all be gone, possibly entirely.

Society

- Public gets fatigued by homosexual agenda. Loud vocal minority champions it, but most people are sick of it.
- First public pro-pedophilia campaigns begin, but don't gain much steam.
- Orthodox and traditional Catholic membership swells as conservative Christians abandon theologically rootless megachurches that embrace female pastors, homosexuality, and similar issues. Mainline churches die out.


Politics

- Right-wing parties in Europe fail to win elections and stem immigrant invasion, chaos results.
- US does nothing substantial about immigration. Localized conflicts occur, but there's no Race War or survivalist wet dream scenario. Just a quiet, steady loss of the native culture and quality of life in many areas.
- Most public conservative opinion turns against Israel. Discussion of Jewish privilege becomes more common.
- Regional unrest weakens US government. Talk of secession and breakup becomes more common.
- The US loses their next conflict against Iran, Russia, or whoever, humiliating and undermining the government in the eyes of pretty much everyone.

 

[Shaykh Moosa]

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Well, I'll do my country: South Africa

1.Accelerated theft of private and government land caused by domestic migrants and migrants from other parts of Africa moving to the three largest cities (to be differentiated from expropriation of farms). The illegal erection of shacks on private land close to urban centres is already a massive problem and I expect it to worsen (the shack-dwellers of course need electricity and water which they steal through illegal connections paid for by the few law-abiding citizens).

2. Government to commence with mass land expropriation without compensation leading to domestic instability and food shortages. I don't really consider the chance of a civil war likely and am inclined to believe that at some point a genocide against not only white South Africans but also Indian South Africans will occur.

Unfortunately I dont have the time to expound further but we've got massive problems... a Bankrupt energy provider, a non-existent tax base, even more retarded socialist policies see national health insurance bill for instance or the government threat to pension funds, uncontrolled migration.

By the end of the 20's South Africa will be a barren wasteland with its minorities either dead or displaced... The writing is on the wall and every South African wants to leave before it's too late (we're even experiencing an exodus of black professionals despite Affirmative Acton putting them in the driving seats)

 

[Hypno]

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Within 5 years or less you will pay for everything with your phone, cashless.

5G and AI will make tech seamless. Stuff will just happen, you won’t have to make it happen.

Electric cars, self driving cars by the end of the decade

 

[Johnnyvee]

RE: Prediction for the 20s

As we approach a new decade, I thought it would be prudent to ask the men of this forum what they think of the coming 2020s. The 1920s brought the era of Great Gatsby and "flappers"; a hundred years later, where will things stand?

Here are a few predictions on my end:

- Smartphone/screen addiction will become near universal. Some "progressives" will opt to have technology embedded in their bodies.
- The US and the West will continue on its gradual decline. The majority of people will still fail to notice, as they are too engrossed in their screens to care (see point 1). The frog boils slowly.
- Inequality will continue to grow, with the ultra rich living in incredible oppulence, and the majority working wage-slave jobs to cater to the richests' every whim.
- China's middle and upper-middle class will become the biggest in the world, with consumption and quality-of-life rising substantially in the East.
- Africa will be under soft-colonization by China, but they likely won't care because it's better than it was before.
- Women will continue to lower in quality, mostly due to ill societal influence (see point 1), and men will continue to lap at their feet in increasingly greater numbers.

The 20s of the future is almost upon us; what do you imagine this new decade will bring?

I think this is the crucial trend that will effect the next decade. The planet cannot tolerate a Chinese/Indian middle class in the 100+ millions range. Something will have to give somewhere.

I don`t know how or when it will happen, but there will be some "correction" of the global population at some point. Whether disease, famine, global warming/rising sea levels (Hate to mention it, but it could happen, and conservatives have all the best solutions in fact. We should maybe change our tune on that issue.) Maybe it`s a combination of these things, but something will have to be adjusted at some point. And it would not surprise me if this starts within the next decade.

War is another possibility, but I think that is unlikely. Westerners will probably just continue with this meaningless electric bicycle, windmills, self-hating BS, instead of dealing with things like global free trade, which I see as the number one problem. (The EU "environmentalist" sure love global free trade though.)

 

[911]

RE: Prediction for the 20s

If you're a hetero Male, or white, you'd better build a spiritual life, because you will have less room to maneuver in the physical realm (in the west). Appreciate the quaint, small things, and work on steady personal improvement.

If that steady personal improvement doesn't culminate in the establishment of a family around you, that improvement will only be marginal.

 

[Donfitz007]

RE: Prediction for the 20s

Personally I believe a huge war will erupt around 2023 or so, last a couple of years, show the need for warrior like men, then a true masculine renaissance. Where women value themselves, men work to be masculine, Etc.

 

[yankeetravels]

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This is actually a pretty interesting thread. I have a few predictions so I'll put 10 that come off the top of my head here.

1. Trump will win the 2020 US presidential election, but AOC will take 2024. The writing is on the wall to set up these two to be the next presidents. America is gonna want a women in charge eventually, AOC checks all the boxes for it. But, the democrats are still a wreck with no standout 2020 candidate and half the country still loves Trump. So I think he wins the next one, but the left gets revenge in 2024 by having AOC sneak a win for a long con. They've been building a young attractive woman up for years.

2. SEA is going to continue to grow and won't exist as we know it next decade. For everything I've heard, I'm skeptical Thailand is gonna be an adult Disneyland anymore next decade. It seems to be moving to a small rich customer base rather than the working class westerner. Bali is somewhere everyone and their mom wants to go to, I see it moving towards the Hawaii direction of it no longer being a cheap place to party and base yourself. Vietnam used to be under the radar, but I see this country taking the biggest jump of all next decade. It will be the new "it" destination in SEA to take people getting fed up with Thailand, but it won't sell itself out like Thailand did decades ago, so it won't be as loose, just overcrowded. As for Philippines, that is probably the biggest question mark of all. I'll say they might finally get more reliable internet next decade, that's been one of the bigger complaints of expats.

3. China is going to be in the spotlight. The western world has ignored China for most of this decade, although Asia has not. China is facing a very interesting stage going into next decade. I believe this is when we find out what they're made of and if they truly are going to be the next superpower. There's been a lot of debate on this, but Hong Kong is currently challenging them, Taiwan is watching closely, and China is settling into SEA and Africa nicely. Is their bubble going to burst or will they reach the top of the mountain?

4. The UK will win Brexit. For years I have been saying the UK opting out of the EU was a good move for them. People have questioned it since, but I think next decade will prove that they made the right move and they will be economically ahead of the EU by the end of the 20s.

5. Tourism will be regulated. Instagram has provided an insane boom to tourism. US National parks went from 4k to 4 mil visitors a year, other areas have seen tourism grow to the point they can't handle the people anymore. I see this getting regulated and restricted, and I believe this will be a good thing. Whether we see a general price hike for some areas and attractions or a lottery system for nature sights, something has to change here. People are dying on Mount Everest, Venice is reaching capacity, Iceland gets more tourists than people living there, and budget airlines are operating on the smallest of profit margins. I don't see cheap or border free travel being able to last at the rate it is growing, I see more regulation coming here. Also, this may go into expat visa territory as well and maybe even working online.

6. Africa will become a more talked about gaming destination. I think next decade is when we will start talking about Africa as a place to meet women. It's one of the last regions left that is relatively untouched. It still favors the bold, but with the internet providing information on it and Chinese money coming in, I see guys more willing to take a chance on trying out Africa if it develops in a positive direction like I expect it to.

7. Going abroad to game will die out a bit. I don't think it'll be gone completely, but I think this decade was the peak of open communities discussing game and sleeping with women abroad. What I expect next decade is for it to be talked about less publicly and maybe go back into the shadows a bit, with less new guys coming in to do it.

8. Streaming will be at a near 100% takeover point for entertainment. This is for TV shows, movies, sports, political commentators, and more. I expect traditional cable television to almost completely die out next decade along with possibly even regular movie theaters. Younger people have moved towards streaming, with live sports and news being the last hold outs left, but I expect the big shows and companies to make deals with streaming services here.

9. AIDS will be almost completely cured. Kind of benefits the pro gay direction the media is taking. I feel like they've had a cure for a while but that's another conversation, but I believe an easy cure to this will be made available to the public next decade.

10. The incel problem will continue to get worse. The PUA agenda is kind of being shoved out of the spotlight, so less guys will have proper guidance available to them to get laid. This is in northern Asia and anglo countries mainly. It was at 33% of guys not getting laid in a year, that number might go up to 40-50%. Some countries might feel the heat of the gender ratio problem and third world women might be less available or more picky to play the role of the filler, so this problem may get more intense and be forced to be directly addressed in the mainstream next decade. However, Berlin is already proposing legal brothels in airports so we might see more of this happen in the first world openly or sex dolls will rapidly develop.

 

[911]

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I think this is the crucial trend that will effect the next decade. The planet cannot tolerate a Chinese/Indian middle class in the 100+ millions range. Something will have to give somewhere.

I don`t know how or when it will happen, but there will be some "correction" of the global population at some point. Whether disease, famine, global warming/rising sea levels (Hate to mention it, but it could happen, and conservatives have all the best solutions in fact. We should maybe change our tune on that issue.) Maybe it`s a combination of these things, but something will have to be adjusted at some point. And it would not surprise me if this starts within the next decade.

War is another possibility, but I think that is unlikely. Westerners will probably just continue with this meaningless electric bicycle, windmills, self-hating BS, instead of dealing with things like global free trade, which I see as the number one problem. (The EU "environmentalist" sure love global free trade though.)

"The planet" doesn't care, the earth's carrying capacity is well over 20 billion people. Food production is not an issue, it is perfectly scalable. Total land devoted to agriculture has actually shrunk as demand for food and meat is exploding with nearly a billion new consumers in China and elsewhere.

War is definitely a possibility, not so much with China, whose leaders are smart and not impulsive. They know that all they need to dominate as the new global superpower is to keep things as they are, keep growing at 5%-7% annually for the next decade or two.

China is like a teenage brontosaurus that is already slightly bigger than the T-rex that is the militarily overextended USA. In a decade, that brotosaurus will be twice the size of the T-rex and will dominate its territory.

India on the other hand could very well get into a big war against Pakistan, with nuclear escalation unlikely but not completely out of the realm of possibility. Strangely enough, the CCP is a less volatile and less easy to manipulate than the Indian democratically elected leadership, where a compromised or an impulsive president could mishandle brinksmanship and edge his country into a war.

 

[RIslander]

RE: Prediction for the 20s

American women will get fatter, more tatted, and shittier.

 

[eradicator]

RE: Prediction for the 20s

By 2025, Tesla takes over the ride sharing platform wars with their robot cars.

Trump wins against Biden in the 2020 election after Biden makes a series of flubs that make it clear he has lost touch with reality.

Many democrats cry.

We get reforms to social security, the boomers get to keep their social security but the rest of us get half of what we put in.

Europe will continue to cuck themselves into oblivion, probably starting with Sweden. The local rapefugees will quickly outnumber actual swedes by 2025. We see similar phenomenon in England, France and Germany and the Euros learn nothing and continue to bring in as many invaders as possible.

 

[BBinger]

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China, Russia, Turkey, and others move to a gold settlement system for international trade. The US Dollar ceases to the the international reserve currency and the USG can't balance its books by printing benjis for export anymore. US economic outlook rapidly begins to resemble Argentina's 2022-2024 near the end of Trump's presidency. Trump goes Kirchner/Peronist, but comparisons to Argentina don't hit mainstream/rightstream media until 2025. Mainstream blames Trump. Rightstream blames Obama/Clinton. This trajectory was actually set by Bush I by using the US position as incredibly rich lone superpower to Gulf War and begin Deindustrialization, then cemented by Clinton and Bush II with F-35 "Joint Strike Fighter", more Gulf Wars, and still further deindustrialization.

 

[Abelard Lindsey]

RE: Prediction for the 20s

As we approach a new decade, I thought it would be prudent to ask the men of this forum what they think of the coming 2020s. The 1920s brought the era of Great Gatsby and "flappers"; a hundred years later, where will things stand?

Here are a few predictions on my end:

- Smartphone/screen addiction will become near universal. Some "progressives" will opt to have technology embedded in their bodies.
- The US and the West will continue on its gradual decline. The majority of people will still fail to notice, as they are too engrossed in their screens to care (see point 1). The frog boils slowly.
- Inequality will continue to grow, with the ultra rich living in incredible oppulence, and the majority working wage-slave jobs to cater to the richests' every whim.
- China's middle and upper-middle class will become the biggest in the world, with consumption and quality-of-life rising substantially in the East.
- Africa will be under soft-colonization by China, but they likely won't care because it's better than it was before.
- Women will continue to lower in quality, mostly due to ill societal influence (see point 1), and men will continue to lap at their feet in increasingly greater numbers.

The 20s of the future is almost upon us; what do you imagine this new decade will bring?

This is the kind of slow declinist position that I tend to identify with. I think it spot on.

Let me add a few more things, both positive and negative.

On the positive side:
1) Effective anti-aging therapies by the end of the 20's. There is enough investment money flowing into enough start-up companies that I feel confident this will happen. There will be a lot of DIY stuff (I'm doing some of this).
2) Gen IV fission and, possibly, fusion power will be developed by the end of the 20's as well. There are a large number of well-funded start-ups in both of these areas as well that give me confidence that it will happen.

That's the positive side. Now for the negative:
1) The boomer and GenX retirement is going to end the financial free-for-all that we have enjoyed since the late 90's. This will have long-term deleterious effects on global capital markets. Peter Zeihan talks about this and I think he is correct.
2) Globally, we are headed into a period of conflict and chaos. China (which I expected to be stable during this time) is starting to show signs of instability. Hong Kong protests could spread to the rest of the country. President Xi's efforts to reimpose more top-down command system is truncating economic growth and potential in China. India and Pakistan could have another go at it, this time with nukes. The Indian central government revoked Kashmir's autonomous governance last week. This is bound to lead to conflict in the coming years. Mexico is becoming a fail state. Russia wants defensible borders on its western frontier. Peter Zeihan talks about this as well.
3) The biggest impact on 2) will be the effective withdrawal of the U.S. from interventionist foreign policy. This is a long term trend that will not end with Trump (and may well accelerate if the left comes to power).
4) Global debt, mostly concentrated in the developed countries, combined with depopulation, will become a problem starting in the 20's.
5) The U.S. population is getting sicker adjusted for age on a generational basis. It is estimated that by half of all kids in the public schools will be LD (learning disabled) by '25. This is not an artifact of immigration-induced demographic change but is bio-chemical. The causes of this are controversial and, therefor, zero chance of any effective action to reduce or solve the problem in the next 10 years.

So, yeah, there is positive as well as a lot of negative in our future.

It is never too late to have a dangerous childhood.

 

[sittinpretty2020]

RE: Prediction for the 20s

This is actually a pretty interesting thread. I have a few predictions so I'll put 10 that come off the top of my head here.

1. Trump will win the 2020 US presidential election, but AOC will take 2024. The writing is on the wall to set up these two to be the next presidents. America is gonna want a women in charge eventually, AOC checks all the boxes for it. But, the democrats are still a wreck with no standout 2020 candidate and half the country still loves Trump. So I think he wins the next one, but the left gets revenge in 2024 by having AOC sneak a win for a long con. They've been building a young attractive woman up for years.

2. SEA is going to continue to grow and won't exist as we know it next decade. For everything I've heard, I'm skeptical Thailand is gonna be an adult Disneyland anymore next decade. It seems to be moving to a small rich customer base rather than the working class westerner. Bali is somewhere everyone and their mom wants to go to, I see it moving towards the Hawaii direction of it no longer being a cheap place to party and base yourself. Vietnam used to be under the radar, but I see this country taking the biggest jump of all next decade. It will be the new "it" destination in SEA to take people getting fed up with Thailand, but it won't sell itself out like Thailand did decades ago, so it won't be as loose, just overcrowded. As for Philippines, that is probably the biggest question mark of all. I'll say they might finally get more reliable internet next decade, that's been one of the bigger complaints of expats.

3. China is going to be in the spotlight. The western world has ignored China for most of this decade, although Asia has not. China is facing a very interesting stage going into next decade. I believe this is when we find out what they're made of and if they truly are going to be the next superpower. There's been a lot of debate on this, but Hong Kong is currently challenging them, Taiwan is watching closely, and China is settling into SEA and Africa nicely. Is their bubble going to burst or will they reach the top of the mountain?

4. The UK will win Brexit. For years I have been saying the UK opting out of the EU was a good move for them. People have questioned it since, but I think next decade will prove that they made the right move and they will be economically ahead of the EU by the end of the 20s.

5. Tourism will be regulated. Instagram has provided an insane boom to tourism. US National parks went from 4k to 4 mil visitors a year, other areas have seen tourism grow to the point they can't handle the people anymore. I see this getting regulated and restricted, and I believe this will be a good thing. Whether we see a general price hike for some areas and attractions or a lottery system for nature sights, something has to change here. People are dying on Mount Everest, Venice is reaching capacity, Iceland gets more tourists than people living there, and budget airlines are operating on the smallest of profit margins. I don't see cheap or border free travel being able to last at the rate it is growing, I see more regulation coming here. Also, this may go into expat visa territory as well and maybe even working online.

6. Africa will become a more talked about gaming destination. I think next decade is when we will start talking about Africa as a place to meet women. It's one of the last regions left that is relatively untouched. It still favors the bold, but with the internet providing information on it and Chinese money coming in, I see guys more willing to take a chance on trying out Africa if it develops in a positive direction like I expect it to.

7. Going abroad to game will die out a bit. I don't think it'll be gone completely, but I think this decade was the peak of open communities discussing game and sleeping with women abroad. What I expect next decade is for it to be talked about less publicly and maybe go back into the shadows a bit, with less new guys coming in to do it.

8. Streaming will be at a near 100% takeover point for entertainment. This is for TV shows, movies, sports, political commentators, and more. I expect traditional cable television to almost completely die out next decade along with possibly even regular movie theaters. Younger people have moved towards streaming, with live sports and news being the last hold outs left, but I expect the big shows and companies to make deals with streaming services here.

9. AIDS will be almost completely cured. Kind of benefits the pro gay direction the media is taking. I feel like they've had a cure for a while but that's another conversation, but I believe an easy cure to this will be made available to the public next decade.

10. The incel problem will continue to get worse. The PUA agenda is kind of being shoved out of the spotlight, so less guys will have proper guidance available to them to get laid. This is in northern Asia and anglo countries mainly. It was at 33% of guys not getting laid in a year, that number might go up to 40-50%. Some countries might feel the heat of the gender ratio problem and third world women might be less available or more picky to play the role of the filler, so this problem may get more intense and be forced to be directly addressed in the mainstream next decade. However, Berlin is already proposing legal brothels in airports so we might see more of this happen in the first world openly or sex dolls will rapidly develop.

 

[Hermetic Seal]

RE: Prediction for the 20s

I can't imagine Africa ever becoming much of a game destination unless you're a black man fed up with African-American women. As far as I can tell, nobody else is interested in African women.

Here, I have a few more!

- China finds an excuse to annex Japan. Weak Japanese men offer little resistance, and Chinese men have Japanese women available as brides. This might seem far-fetched, but I won't be the slightest bit shocked if it eventually happens for these exact reasons.
- Mass starvation and chaos erupt in Africa due to genocide of white South Africans producing most of the food. African refuges attempt to pour into Europe and the Middle East. Middle East holds its ground and guns down African migrants, but Europe gets hit hard before they start sinking the ships. SJW pressure to save Africa exerts further strain on Western governments suffering from catastrophic demographic and internal issues.
- The developing world is hit hard by famine and issues with food production and water supply due to unsustainable population, but North America, Europe, and East Asia have infrastructure and resources that largely shield them from these issues.

 

[scotian]

RE: Prediction for the 20s

Justin Trudeau will get shit canned this fall (fingers crossed) and in 2020 will divorce his wife and transition into a tranny.