Propaganda in Movies

Papist

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic
Title: Almost Mercy (2015)
IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3480446/

This film is about two misfits in school who're bullied and shunned - one male (Jackson) and one female (Emily) - and who form a friendship. They're both dysfunctional in their own way, with Emily having to go to rehab and Jackson being hospitalised for his mental health problems. The propaganda is varied:

Small town America - is portrayed as being full of uneducated hicks. There are numerous examples of this, and the modern town is cleverly juxtaposed with the tale of Mercy Brown who in the late 1800s was thought to be a vampire by her local community, but was actually suffering from tuberculosis.

Christianity - when a husband discovers his wife's infidelity, he murders his wife and her lover with an axe; shoots his son and then hangs himself. During the funeral, which both attend, reference is made to passages in Ephesians in which wives are instructed to submit to their husbands. The priest blames the wife for the murders and states that she will be burning in a lake of fire for all eternity. It almost immediately becomes apparent that the priest is a paedophile who abused Jackson

Second Amendment - Jackson almost shoots up his school and Emily, narrating, comments how this happens almost every week in America and barely makes the new unless there's a body county of more than ten.

White/Conservative - After Jackson's arrest Emily is again narrating over footage of her principal and school teacher (both 'small town' types) "...who could blame him? Mother****ers are running the whole world, not just the school - that was only the beginning. They were winning everywhere." Previously, she had reference white males and guns at the beginning of the film.

The above is far from exhaustive, and I have refrained from including too many spoilers. Immediately after the camera focuses on Jesus as depicted on an icon, Emily narrates the following over sinister music "Everywhere is too much to think about though, so kids attack the little they know. But stupid, pointless, short attention span, look-at-me bull****, that's where I get off. Some people think it's the guns; I know better. IT'S NOT THE GUNS! It's deeper than that. Since Mercy Brown. Since all the way at the beginning. America...is...the...dead...kid...powered...engine."

This film is an excellent example of propaganda, and worth watching just to see how the mindbenders work. I expect Devon Stack to comment on it soon, if he already hasn't.



BTW: I thought there would be a specific thread about this, and indeed my search elicited a match, however it wasn't open to new replies:


There was also one about Feminist propaganda, but again this wasn't open to new replies:

 
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MartyMcFly

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Tons of movies have propaganda. One that comes to mind is Runaway Jury. The book is pretty good and relates to tobacco. However, the movie is pure garbage and relates to a gun manufacturer being blamed for a mass shooting. Sadly, a lot of leftists actually believe gun manufacturers are to blame for gun murders. The greedy Sandy Hook parents (likely encouraged by crooked lawyers) come to mind:


RUNAWAY JURY​


Content: -4Intentional blasphemy, evil, gross immorality, and/or worldview problems. (To be avoided)
Production Quality:
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What You Need To Know:​

RUNAWAY JURY is a propaganda movie about a trial against an evil gun manufacturer. The movie presents none of the many facts and arguments against gun control and in favor of gun ownership, and nearly all of the characters supporting the gun manufacturer in the movie are sleazy and obnoxious.

Content:​

(RoRo, PCPCPC, AP, C, Ab, LLL, VV, A, D, M) Strong Romantic worldview using emotional arguments to make a very strong politically correct, deceitful case for gun control, with an anti-American slant that targets the American military and cynically uses patriotism to manipulate jury, lawyers, and judge in civil case, plus a few positive references to Christianity such as prayer, religious candles, and a God bless you, as well as at least a couple anti-Christian elements such as pastor’s wife has a secret sin and villain lightly mocks man’s faith; at least 24 obscenities, two strong profanities, and one light profanity; moderate violence such as gunshots heard as gunman slaughters office workers, arson, apartment trashed, implied suicide attempt, and very rough struggle between woman and male attacker; no sex or nudity; alcohol use; smoking; and, lying, jury tampering, and extortion.

GENRE: Drama/Mystery/Courtroom Drama

More Detail:​

RUNAWAY JURY is a left-wing propaganda movie that is absolutely shameless in the way it makes all the characters opposed to its radical message look as bad as possible. Ironically, the game that this movie about jury tampering plays is as phony and rigged as the jury in the story.
John Cusack stars in the movie as a young man who infiltrates a jury in New Orleans during a trial against a gun manufacturer. Dustin Hoffman plays the lawyer suing the manufacturer for being culpable when a disturbed man uses one of the manufacturer’s guns to slaughter a bunch of people in an office. Gene Hackman plays the evil jury consultant working for the gun manufacturer. Rachel Wiesz plays Cusack’s cohort, who offers the jury to both sides, for $15 million.
Ultimately, RUNAWAY JURY is nothing more than a leftist diatribe against gun ownership. The movie presents none of the many facts and arguments against gun control and in favor of gun ownership. Also, nearly all of the characters supporting the gun manufacturer in the movie are sleazy, obnoxious and stupid. RUNAWAY JURY is an abhorrent movie that deserves our righteous condemnation. Apparently, the leftist elitists in Hollywood can’t make a political movie without setting up a bunch of straw men. This will only hurt them in the long run, because it weakens their filmmaking skills and alienates them from the average moviegoer in America’s heartland.
The cast makes a good effort at selling this sludge, but their characters are stereotypes with little substance behind them. The movie uses these stereotypes to argue that violent criminals are the result of a corrupt social system. This Rousseauian Romantic worldview is supported by clear statements and scenes designed to appeal to the emotions of moviegoers, rather than engage their brains.
Unhappily, there are many people who will fall for such superficial cinematic techniques. This is exactly what happened in Germany when Adolph Hitler and his National Socialist demagogues used movies like TRIUMPH OF THE WILL to convince the German people that murdering Jews, handicapped people, sickly senior citizens, and unborn children was a good idea. The pro-abortion, pro-gun control leftists in Hollywood are the rightful heirs of these socialist monsters.
Please address your comments to:
Peter Chernin, Chairman and CEO
The Fox Group
Tom Rothman and Jim Gianopulos, Chairmen
Fox Filmed Entertainment
20th Century Fox Film Corp.
A division of Fox, Inc. and News Corp.
10201 West Pico Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90035
Phone: (310) 369-1000
Website: www.fox.com

SUMMARY: RUNAWAY JURY is a propaganda movie about a trial against an evil gun manufacturer. The movie presents none of the many facts and arguments against gun control and in favor of gun ownership, and nearly all of the characters supporting the gun manufacturer in the movie are sleazy and obnoxious.
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

Pelican
Catholic
Gold Member
FWIW (and sorry if this is off topic) I don't blame the family members of mass shooting victims for trying to sue gun manufacturers, they have gone through something I can't imagine and as you mention they are typically hounded and manipulated into it by anti-2A lobbyist groups. The part of that story that doesn't make the news is that those lawsuits are almost always thrown out, and when they are the leftist lobbyist groups usually leave the families--who have already suffered an unspeakable tragedy--holding the bag for their legal fees.
 

JoeChill

Robin
Protestant
Gold Member
Pleasantville (1998) trashed traditional values in favor of Clown World and Saved (2004) trashed Christianity. If memory serves correctly, Blackpilled did reviews on both of these films. Hollywood has been the enemy of Christians for a very long time. Joseph Breen had this to say about the film industry generations ago: "These Jews seem to think of nothing but money making and sexual indulgence” and "People whose daily morals would not be tolerated in the toilet of a pest house hold the good jobs out here and wax fat on it [....] Ninety-five percent of these folks are Jews of an Eastern European lineage. They are, probably, the scum of the scum of the earth.” I'm sorry to say that the film industry has not improved since then.
 
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Towgunner

Kingfisher
This is a special subject for me, because, I think the entertainment/culture vector has been one of the top reasons, perhaps the top reason, why we are in the situation we're in right now. Indeed, mainstream media is awash in propaganda. Sadly, this has been very effective in persuading people. I can't watch any sort of conventional tv or movies. Not only because I can spot the propaganda instantly, but mostly because I'm utterly offended. The portrayal of men today is an outright insult...weak, neutered, defers to women or other assorted minorities, passive...nothing I want to be.

All that said, there's a relationship between propaganda and quality. As entertainment, and it can be any kind, becomes more focused on propaganda the quality declines. We've seen this play out for at least a decade, perhaps more. Each year, double-digit declines in ratings for movies or tv shows etc.

Yes, "they" control it all, but, "they" are doing a lousy job. And, I don't even think they care. As it stands right now, we have NO culture. Think about it. There's a near endless list of music, tv shows, movies etc that were total hits that came out during the 80s and 90s. Today and for the last several decades - nothing. Gladiator? Ha - 2001 and Russel Crowe is now a fat old man.

Also, a very important development occurred during this time, which is the advancement in digital technologies enabling on-demand and streaming services. This fundamentally changed all media in a profound way. And in ways that we are just beginning to understand and even discover.

All of this makes for, believe it or not, a massive opportunity. That's why I have a lot of confidence in the parallel economy.

I've said this many times before, but, the moment when our side starts to create professional-grade entertainment - WE WIN!

And its going to happen. Why? Because 1. demand, ahem, massive pent-up demand and 2. Because the code to build all this stuff is all in open source.

Yeah, I get it, the old and once free internet venues, youtube etc, are completely controlled and actively censoring etc. So what, make a new one...its never been easier. And people are. Matt Walsh just said they're making actual entertainment and there are several new apps being released in Gab.
 

Maddox

Woodpecker
Protestant
When a man attempts to control or dominate a woman, his bad behavior is called out and stopped by another man or woman. In certain situations, black men are allowed to act this way (i.e. - dominating a white woman).

White men are not allowed to make any negative remarks against blacks or other protected groups. Doing so results in other white men and women calling him a racist and correcting the bad behavior. Conversely, a black character complaining about white men in general is justified to do so and usually mentions the bad treatment of blacks from the past.
 

joost

Kingfisher
I'm watching The Eternals (2021).

One of the Eternals is a Black man who invented all the advancements of civilization. To make it worse, they made him gay, married to an Arab dude.

The Indian dude has a butler. Funny scenes.


There's another hour left but every movie these days has to have some propaganda.
 

Nordwand

Kingfisher
Other Christian
A new version of "Around the world in 80 days" is currently showing on BBC1. It's as PC as you might imagine, with the character of Inspector Fix now played by a woman. In the original movie, this character was played by English actor Robert Newton. Note the first paragraph:


Times have changed somewhat.
 

Papist

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic
This is a special subject for me, because, I think the entertainment/culture vector has been one of the top reasons, perhaps the top reason, why we are in the situation we're in right now. Indeed, mainstream media is awash in propaganda. Sadly, this has been very effective in persuading people. I can't watch any sort of conventional tv or movies. Not only because I can spot the propaganda instantly, but mostly because I'm utterly offended. The portrayal of men today is an outright insult...weak, neutered, defers to women or other assorted minorities, passive...nothing I want to be.

All that said, there's a relationship between propaganda and quality. As entertainment, and it can be any kind, becomes more focused on propaganda the quality declines. We've seen this play out for at least a decade, perhaps more. Each year, double-digit declines in ratings for movies or tv shows etc.

Yes, "they" control it all, but, "they" are doing a lousy job. And, I don't even think they care. As it stands right now, we have NO culture. Think about it. There's a near endless list of music, tv shows, movies etc that were total hits that came out during the 80s and 90s. Today and for the last several decades - nothing. Gladiator? Ha - 2001 and Russel Crowe is now a fat old man.

Also, a very important development occurred during this time, which is the advancement in digital technologies enabling on-demand and streaming services. This fundamentally changed all media in a profound way. And in ways that we are just beginning to understand and even discover.

All of this makes for, believe it or not, a massive opportunity. That's why I have a lot of confidence in the parallel economy.

I've said this many times before, but, the moment when our side starts to create professional-grade entertainment - WE WIN!

And its going to happen. Why? Because 1. demand, ahem, massive pent-up demand and 2. Because the code to build all this stuff is all in open source.

Yeah, I get it, the old and once free internet venues, youtube etc, are completely controlled and actively censoring etc. So what, make a new one...its never been easier. And people are. Matt Walsh just said they're making actual entertainment and there are several new apps being released in Gab.

Sorry for not replying sooner! For some reason I didn't realise there had been more replies to this thread.

The best propaganda is entertainment. If you can make people laugh or otherwise entertain them and insert a political message, that is the best way to enact change.

I really hope you're right. Maybe that's why the inversion agenda (subversion of Christian values) has sped up?

A new version of "Around the world in 80 days" is currently showing on BBC1. It's as PC as you might imagine, with the character of Inspector Fix now played by a woman. In the original movie, this character was played by English actor Robert Newton. Note the first paragraph:


Times have changed somewhat.

I noticed that there's a new series of Darling Buds of May, with the daughter's suitor now a black man. I literally think it has been remade for that reason.
 

MartyMcFly

Kingfisher
Other Christian
A new version of "Around the world in 80 days" is currently showing on BBC1. It's as PC as you might imagine, with the character of Inspector Fix now played by a woman. In the original movie, this character was played by English actor Robert Newton. Note the first paragraph:


Times have changed somewhat.
I disliked the 1956 movie and the 2004 movie with Jackie Chan (already troubling because Jean Passepartout was French in the book and not Chinese). It is one of my favorite books and the movies have disappointed me. This is a book that a child should be able to turn into a decent movie-it amazes me that people with huge budgets are able to ruin perfectly good books. I definitely won't watch this TV series seeing that the score is low and Fix is a woman. My tolerance for intentional gender/race changes like this which destroy the original books is much lower than it was a few years ago.

There are hundreds of adventure books with important female characters such as Nancy Drew that could be adapted or Hollywood can do something really groundbreaking and actually make an original screenplay. It is extremely unnecessary to play PC games like this.
 

Towgunner

Kingfisher
Sorry for not replying sooner! For some reason I didn't realise there had been more replies to this thread.

The best propaganda is entertainment. If you can make people laugh or otherwise entertain them and insert a political message, that is the best way to enact change.

I really hope you're right. Maybe that's why the inversion agenda (subversion of Christian values) has sped up?



I noticed that there's a new series of Darling Buds of May, with the daughter's suitor now a black man. I literally think it has been remade for that reason.

It's a certainty. People are impressionable. If you're inundated by certain images it will engender a certain response. Its really that simple. People don't appreciate just how gullible most people are. And most people don't want to admit they're gullible, but, its part of being human. Therefore, if media/entertainment were to turn more conservative the country would turn conservative too.

Theoretically, the change can occur almost overnight. That's how powerful this is.

If there is a single reason why conservatives have been losing the culture war it's this. Conservatives have ignored the culture. Heck, we haven't even fought a real battle yet. Imagine when we do fight a legitimate battle on this cultural battlefield.

Contemplate this statement: it is possible to turn America back into a Christian country and it can be done quickly.

Even on this Christain forum, I bet this statement would be met with doubt and skepticism by just about everyone. It underscores the overall lack of understanding of the power of using culture to our advantage. You see, if "they" can convince some people that men and women are exactly the same then those same people can be convinced, regardless if they're currently flying a rainbow flag or even "identity" as homosexual etc, to accept and praise Jesus Christ.

This is why we collectively continue to fail. The SECOND we collectively put our energy into creating quality cultural material we can make changes that will astounding! I really mean that.

Will this happen? Answer: YES. Why? Actually for a variety of reasons, but off the top of my head 1. Quality and 2. Its never been easier.

There is a dearth of quality entertainment and its across the board. TV shows - bad. Music - bad. Movies - bad. The evidence is right there. Ordinarily, ratings changes move slightly from year to year. In any statistical analysis, double-digit changes are always significant. Now, usually, they're an anomaly and there's mean reversion immediately afterward. Not the case here. Year after year after year. Double-digit declines in MSM entertainment ratings. Heck 2x declines in professional sports! This means a lot of things, but, it certainly means people are not being sufficiently entertained. Therefore, there's a HUGE or maybe a YUGE opportunity here. From my vantage point, its almost as if the left is literally teeing this up for us. Apropos to the ratings declines, if someone creates a truly novel story and it, for instance, follows a natural story or hero arc, i.e. a young man finding his way (a story arc that has resonated throughout history from The Odyssey to Star Wars) it would make BILLIONS. There is so much pent up demand for that and its not being satiated. Moreover, the left has self-inflicted their own impotence to delivery...after all, such a story is not PC. And it is their very own imposed PC rubric that is causing the ratings to drop.

Its never been easier to do this. Sure, directing, acting etc, that's a matter of talent, but, talent is there. Not too long ago the barriers to entry were significant. Professional grade content required massive capital commitments - large studios, editing equipment, even, distribution channels. Not so today. You could easily produce a Shakespeare play with your iPhone.

This is the recipe for success. Perhaps the most frustrating thing for me is to know this but to be unable to communicate this to the right people. But, it will happen either way. I think enough of our current thought-leaders have become enlightened enough to understand this. It will take some time, but, it will happen.
 

Cavalier

Woodpecker
Orthodox Catechumen
It's a certainty. People are impressionable. If you're inundated by certain images it will engender a certain response. Its really that simple. People don't appreciate just how gullible most people are. And most people don't want to admit they're gullible, but, its part of being human. Therefore, if media/entertainment were to turn more conservative the country would turn conservative too.

Theoretically, the change can occur almost overnight. That's how powerful this is.

If there is a single reason why conservatives have been losing the culture war it's this. Conservatives have ignored the culture. Heck, we haven't even fought a real battle yet. Imagine when we do fight a legitimate battle on this cultural battlefield.

Contemplate this statement: it is possible to turn America back into a Christian country and it can be done quickly.

Even on this Christain forum, I bet this statement would be met with doubt and skepticism by just about everyone. It underscores the overall lack of understanding of the power of using culture to our advantage. You see, if "they" can convince some people that men and women are exactly the same then those same people can be convinced, regardless if they're currently flying a rainbow flag or even "identity" as homosexual etc, to accept and praise Jesus Christ.

This is why we collectively continue to fail. The SECOND we collectively put our energy into creating quality cultural material we can make changes that will astounding! I really mean that.

Will this happen? Answer: YES. Why? Actually for a variety of reasons, but off the top of my head 1. Quality and 2. Its never been easier.

There is a dearth of quality entertainment and its across the board. TV shows - bad. Music - bad. Movies - bad. The evidence is right there. Ordinarily, ratings changes move slightly from year to year. In any statistical analysis, double-digit changes are always significant. Now, usually, they're an anomaly and there's mean reversion immediately afterward. Not the case here. Year after year after year. Double-digit declines in MSM entertainment ratings. Heck 2x declines in professional sports! This means a lot of things, but, it certainly means people are not being sufficiently entertained. Therefore, there's a HUGE or maybe a YUGE opportunity here. From my vantage point, its almost as if the left is literally teeing this up for us. Apropos to the ratings declines, if someone creates a truly novel story and it, for instance, follows a natural story or hero arc, i.e. a young man finding his way (a story arc that has resonated throughout history from The Odyssey to Star Wars) it would make BILLIONS. There is so much pent up demand for that and its not being satiated. Moreover, the left has self-inflicted their own impotence to delivery...after all, such a story is not PC. And it is their very own imposed PC rubric that is causing the ratings to drop.

Its never been easier to do this. Sure, directing, acting etc, that's a matter of talent, but, talent is there. Not too long ago the barriers to entry were significant. Professional grade content required massive capital commitments - large studios, editing equipment, even, distribution channels. Not so today. You could easily produce a Shakespeare play with your iPhone.

This is the recipe for success. Perhaps the most frustrating thing for me is to know this but to be unable to communicate this to the right people. But, it will happen either way. I think enough of our current thought-leaders have become enlightened enough to understand this. It will take some time, but, it will happen.
I agree with the idea of taking back the culture. Unfortunately THEY have control of most if not all media companies, movie studios, academia, major corporations, etc. To take back the culture and show positive images on television and in movies including proper gender roles and morality would require strong governmental action which would of necessity have to restrict unbridled freedoms.
 

Papist

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic
I agree with the idea of taking back the culture. Unfortunately THEY have control of most if not all media companies, movie studios, academia, major corporations, etc. To take back the culture and show positive images on television and in movies including proper gender roles and morality would require strong governmental action which would of necessity have to restrict unbridled freedoms.
Pretty much what I was going to write.
 

Maddox

Woodpecker
Protestant
I agree with the idea of taking back the culture. Unfortunately THEY have control of most if not all media companies, movie studios, academia, major corporations, etc. To take back the culture and show positive images on television and in movies including proper gender roles and morality would require strong governmental action which would of necessity have to restrict unbridled freedoms.

I never have understood why some filthy rich Republican hasn't started his own movie studio by now.

Create the studio, make movies with budgets around $1-2MM...and profit from half of the country running to see your films so they don't have to be assaulted by Hollywood's Leftist agenda.

You'd think someone would jump at the chance to own his own studio and make the movies he'd want to watch...not to mention the celebrity status it would bring that man.
 

Cavalier

Woodpecker
Orthodox Catechumen
I never have understood why some filthy rich Republican hasn't started his own movie studio by now.

Create the studio, make movies with budgets around $1-2MM...and profit from half of the country running to see your films so they don't have to be assaulted by Hollywood's Leftist agenda.

You'd think someone would jump at the chance to own his own studio and make the movies he'd want to watch...not to mention the celebrity status it would bring that man.
Mel Gibson has made his own movies. But to really take back the culture it has to be more than one. More than that the subversive voices must be completely silenced so that they can no longer poison the culture.
 

MartyMcFly

Kingfisher
Other Christian
I never have understood why some filthy rich Republican hasn't started his own movie studio by now.

Create the studio, make movies with budgets around $1-2MM...and profit from half of the country running to see your films so they don't have to be assaulted by Hollywood's Leftist agenda.

You'd think someone would jump at the chance to own his own studio and make the movies he'd want to watch...not to mention the celebrity status it would bring that man.
Dailywire made a movie and hopefully will make more. Hopefully they are successful:

“Unlike Hollywood, The Daily Wire will never bow to the whims of woke SJWs and the Chinese Communist Party censors,” Boreing said. “’Run Hide Fight’ is a preview of our future plans and the type of movies and series we plan to offer in the not-too-distant future. Like this film, much of our entertainment content won’t be political. Our mission is simple: We will make great entertainment that all Americans, regardless of their political views, can enjoy. Americans who are fed-up with the cultural edicts of our country’s self-appointed moral overlords in Hollywood and legacy media should stay tuned.”

 

Papist

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic
Dailywire made a movie and hopefully will make more. Hopefully they are successful:

“Unlike Hollywood, The Daily Wire will never bow to the whims of woke SJWs and the Chinese Communist Party censors,” Boreing said. “’Run Hide Fight’ is a preview of our future plans and the type of movies and series we plan to offer in the not-too-distant future. Like this film, much of our entertainment content won’t be political. Our mission is simple: We will make great entertainment that all Americans, regardless of their political views, can enjoy. Americans who are fed-up with the cultural edicts of our country’s self-appointed moral overlords in Hollywood and legacy media should stay tuned.”

I'd like to watch this when it comes out and support efforts like this one. Thanks. :)
 

MrFreezy

Robin
Catholic
I d say the majority of movies from Hollywood got some propaganda/political agenda in it. From the top of the hat...

Fight Club from 1997 or so: loved the movie when it came out, looks like Anti Consumerism/Neo Masculinity/Survival of the Fittest - type of movie till you figure out its homosexual propaganda

Pretty Woman: nothing wrong with romantic comedies, but not like this. Prostitutes don't have hearts of gold and if you are a millionaire you shouldn't be interested in fallen women. Why not fall for a Mennonite Lady from Western Manitoba or something like that?

Schindlers List: nuff said

All the Godfather/Scarface/Mafia movies: There is nothing glamourous or noble in being a criminal. You are a leech that lives of other peoples work and money. These type of movies just reek of Jewish Ideas. And then one day for no reason at all Mussolini came to power. And guess what he did first. Squashed the organized crime in just a couple of months. And that's how the Italian Mob came to the States. But scum is scum and there is no reason to paint a portrait of a family man that takes care of his family.
 
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