Proposed Law: Mandatory detention for domestic violence allegations
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Osiris said:
In 90% of cases, either the guy gets taken away or they both get taken away. I've done several hundred domestic violence cases and several hundred domestic related criminal cases over the past twelve plus years.
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Yep, right in line with the NJ fraud rape law.
The state I live in they usually cart all involved parties off to the clink, even if you called and seem to have no part in it. Either gender.
Cops and the judicial wing don't give a shit, they want money. They want to "force" you to do business with them. As I've stated
before, they care about two tax payers damaging each other's ability to pay money into the system, NOT whether two people hurt each other, live or die.
By calling the cops you're telling the judicial system "I want to do business with you." Not; "I want the protection my tax dollars provide me."
If it's a situation where violence has not occurred yet, it is definitely wise to be the first to call however. My new initiative called "Out
Bitch the Bitch," is based on any time a girl threatens to call the cops or involve the law, right then and there I call them providing I'm not intoxicated.
Most components of law still have a logical basis, and when you appeal to a cop's logic first, you typically set the stage.
The state I live in they usually cart all involved parties off to the clink, even if you called and seem to have no part in it. Either gender.
Cops and the judicial wing don't give a shit, they want money. They want to "force" you to do business with them. As I've stated
before, they care about two tax payers damaging each other's ability to pay money into the system, NOT whether two people hurt each other, live or die.
By calling the cops you're telling the judicial system "I want to do business with you." Not; "I want the protection my tax dollars provide me."
If it's a situation where violence has not occurred yet, it is definitely wise to be the first to call however. My new initiative called "Out
Bitch the Bitch," is based on any time a girl threatens to call the cops or involve the law, right then and there I call them providing I'm not intoxicated.
Most components of law still have a logical basis, and when you appeal to a cop's logic first, you typically set the stage.
More than one state has arrest as the preferred response to a domestic incident. As has been pointed out, mandatory arrest could run afoul of the 4th, 5th and 8th Amendments in the USA. In any event, you have to get a hearing before a judge as soon as possible (don't get arrested Friday night).
You have to distinguish between general definitions of "abuse," like on that DOJ website, and the legal definitions of crimes defined as domestic violence. Only those things which are real crimes (assault, assault and battery, threats of violence) can be prosecuted.
In the USA, "emotional abuse" like "excessive criticism" is not a crime and you can't be arrested for it.
You have to distinguish between general definitions of "abuse," like on that DOJ website, and the legal definitions of crimes defined as domestic violence. Only those things which are real crimes (assault, assault and battery, threats of violence) can be prosecuted.
In the USA, "emotional abuse" like "excessive criticism" is not a crime and you can't be arrested for it.
Sp5 said:
Thanks Sp5. I figured you would come along and clarify at some point in time.
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This is why I have often said that the whole divide between left and right in the sphere makes absolutely no fuckin sense.
Here in the bible belt we are supposedly this or that depending on who you talk to, but when it comes to feminism and progressivism we really are no different than the north or east or west coasts. We may have a few more churches but what does that matter when all the women in those churches are fat with chopped off hair? Even if they are Christian or traditional in one way or another or if they watch fox news or are anti-abortion...it still doesn't matter because these, by and large (heehehe) are the same bitches who will vote for feminist laws like this. I know because my mom is one of these women. By many standards she would be a Christian traditionalist, especially compared to atheist+communist community organizers in Chicago or DC, but she is still a die hard feminist who used to do all sorts of stuff with feminist organizations here in the south and for fucks sake she is in divinity school these days.
I have said it before and will say it again. If she is an American, especially white, woman than she is by default a feminist. Sure, there might be some Mormon woman who is an exception...though I doubt it...but at the end of the day what it really comes down to is one or two issues.
If you watch fox news you see the same thing. The anti-abortion blonde chick will make fun of feminists and then not even 20 minutes later she is bitching about how women only make .77 cents to a mans dollar...or maternity leave...or how women are viewed in the media...or..or...
The only difference between most women on the right or left of the spectrum is one or two hot button issues like abortion. The same is true for men. We can look at the beta white knights on the left and guaranteed for every one of them you end up with some white knight Christian asshole on the right who preaches about dead beat dads or immature manchildren in his congregation (see Dalrocks blog for a nice takedown of these types).
WF Price over at The-Spearhead used to like to talk about how feminism peaked back in the 90s but I still maintain that all that happened was that it went mainstream and it is far from peaking. It will only get worse from here on out. I guarantee that after this gets passed one of the next things to pass will be that they double down on the time spent in jail while probably increasing the fines and adding mandatory state sponsored rehabilitation and all sorts of other shit that is usually forced on men currently going through the worst types of divorces. Just as they start to up taxes on men while expanding common law marriages, I bet you will see a large push to start attacking single and never married men by simply relaxing current restrictions here and there.
The west is done. Put a fork in it.
This is why I have often said that the whole divide between left and right in the sphere makes absolutely no fuckin sense.
Here in the bible belt we are supposedly this or that depending on who you talk to, but when it comes to feminism and progressivism we really are no different than the north or east or west coasts. We may have a few more churches but what does that matter when all the women in those churches are fat with chopped off hair? Even if they are Christian or traditional in one way or another or if they watch fox news or are anti-abortion...it still doesn't matter because these, by and large (heehehe) are the same bitches who will vote for feminist laws like this. I know because my mom is one of these women. By many standards she would be a Christian traditionalist, especially compared to atheist+communist community organizers in Chicago or DC, but she is still a die hard feminist who used to do all sorts of stuff with feminist organizations here in the south and for fucks sake she is in divinity school these days.
I have said it before and will say it again. If she is an American, especially white, woman than she is by default a feminist. Sure, there might be some Mormon woman who is an exception...though I doubt it...but at the end of the day what it really comes down to is one or two issues.
If you watch fox news you see the same thing. The anti-abortion blonde chick will make fun of feminists and then not even 20 minutes later she is bitching about how women only make .77 cents to a mans dollar...or maternity leave...or how women are viewed in the media...or..or...
The only difference between most women on the right or left of the spectrum is one or two hot button issues like abortion. The same is true for men. We can look at the beta white knights on the left and guaranteed for every one of them you end up with some white knight Christian asshole on the right who preaches about dead beat dads or immature manchildren in his congregation (see Dalrocks blog for a nice takedown of these types).
WF Price over at The-Spearhead used to like to talk about how feminism peaked back in the 90s but I still maintain that all that happened was that it went mainstream and it is far from peaking. It will only get worse from here on out. I guarantee that after this gets passed one of the next things to pass will be that they double down on the time spent in jail while probably increasing the fines and adding mandatory state sponsored rehabilitation and all sorts of other shit that is usually forced on men currently going through the worst types of divorces. Just as they start to up taxes on men while expanding common law marriages, I bet you will see a large push to start attacking single and never married men by simply relaxing current restrictions here and there.
The west is done. Put a fork in it.
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