Protein powder is a scam.
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I don't think you need to take protein 30 minutes after working out. Its hard to believe protein could be absorbed that quickly to begin with since its not broken down totally in the stomach acid. What did hunter gathers do as well with a hunt after killing an animal? Immediately start biting into the animal before flaying and cooking it? I doubt the muscles will eat themselves that quickly. Their is food and protein being circulated all the time due to how slow digestion is. The food from yesterday is still being broken down into its elements that the body can use.
This broscience has been debunked many times. Take a look here for example: http://breakingmuscle.com/nutrition/is-the-anabolic-window-a-myth
kbell is right. If that were the case, our ancestors would've been royally fucked.
BortimusPrime said:
Mackerel or sardines are awesome. Taste lovely too. The only drawback as far as I see is the theoretical potential for heavy metal accumulation. I have a can every single day at breakfast along with six eggs. I don't need any mass produced protein powder shit.
Eat big (and natural), lift big.
Crazy. and you would need a freezer. but albumin is better than whey
37 pounds of organic egg whites. delivered to your door. ~$245 plus shipping. Without a foodservice account http://www.eggology.com/Public/OrderOnline/
They paid Ronnie for ads. so there
37 pounds of organic egg whites. delivered to your door. ~$245 plus shipping. Without a foodservice account http://www.eggology.com/Public/OrderOnline/
They paid Ronnie for ads. so there
Has anyone on here used eggology? I've been tempted to try it out. Seems a little pricey at first glance but I've never sat down to crunch the numbers on the cost of buying raw eggs vs buying the liquid whites to see how much of a premium I'd be paying.
If only they had mixes with the yolks + whites...
If only they had mixes with the yolks + whites...
BortimusPrime
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roberto said:
Herring and sardines are low on the food chain in the ocean, so they don't bioaccumulate mercury. The fish you need to look out for are large, long-lived apex predator fish like tuna or sharks.
I like sardines exactly because of the "fishy" taste. I find tuna bland and not so much like a real fish haha.
Squeezing the juice from half of a lemon on top of them helps.
TheKantian
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Whey protein used to be a lot cheaper. I remember when it was about 40 dollars for a 10lb bag. So, to me, whey is too expensive to use at other times of the day. I only use it post workout. So with a 10lb bag that lasts about a year.
Of course, most people are consuming too much protein anyway.
Of course, most people are consuming too much protein anyway.
I used to religiously take 3 scoops of Gaspari (good brand) whey everyday. I now have one scoop post workout and that's it. I haven't noticed a single difference other than I'm spending less money. Whey is not a rip off but I think the casual to semi-advanced gym goers tend to overdo it.
Hades... Some items on that list are mass gainers that are designed not only with protein in mind but calories and carbs too. Just saying...
I love Greek Yogurt but where is OP (and anyone else on here) getting such a good deal on it???
I just did the math, when I buy a 32oz jug of Greek Yogurt at the grocery store, it's $6 for 32oz 4 cups/ 4 servings of Yogurt. 20g protein per cup, or $1.50 for 20 grams of protein.
For my whey, I splurge to get grass fed Promix - $80 for 5 lbs for plain whey. Yes this is pricier, but I feel better after consuming it than I do Optimum or other brands- something a lot less harsh/processed about it. To each his own, not hating on cheaper whey, just personal preference. But regardless - I did the same calculation and it comes out to $0.88 for 20g of my "overpriced scam" whey protein - almost half the cost of Greek Yogurt.
Personally I love Greek Yogurt, but it's damn expensive! I'd have to find it for closer to $3/jug before it's was competitive with my already-pricey whey. Does Costco or anywhere else sell it that much cheaper?? Right now it's more of a treat I reward myself with, if I get shit done, as I love the taste/texture and it seems to settle my stomach if I ate something that didn't go down well.
I just did the math, when I buy a 32oz jug of Greek Yogurt at the grocery store, it's $6 for 32oz 4 cups/ 4 servings of Yogurt. 20g protein per cup, or $1.50 for 20 grams of protein.
For my whey, I splurge to get grass fed Promix - $80 for 5 lbs for plain whey. Yes this is pricier, but I feel better after consuming it than I do Optimum or other brands- something a lot less harsh/processed about it. To each his own, not hating on cheaper whey, just personal preference. But regardless - I did the same calculation and it comes out to $0.88 for 20g of my "overpriced scam" whey protein - almost half the cost of Greek Yogurt.
Personally I love Greek Yogurt, but it's damn expensive! I'd have to find it for closer to $3/jug before it's was competitive with my already-pricey whey. Does Costco or anywhere else sell it that much cheaper?? Right now it's more of a treat I reward myself with, if I get shit done, as I love the taste/texture and it seems to settle my stomach if I ate something that didn't go down well.
Uzisuicide said:
Yeah, I was too lazy to synthesize the protein spiking information into a graph. You have to follow the link and hit up chaos and pain for more information on it. His spreadsheet is defunct but you can find the independent assayers he refers to with a little googling.
There was another lab source with some independent researchers finding the highest quality whey protein with respect to no junk amino acids added, they update a running tally on best protein for budget, etc. A quick summary of their findings is that price has absolutely no bearing on quality.
The body fortress protein you can get from walmart is surprisingly a decent product for it being very cheap.
I don't use protein powders personally, no idea why but they make me gassy. If I need a quick fix at work I usually opt for a supreme protein bar or a metRX brownie (unfortunately they "updated" their product with soy isolate, so these are not my first choice). I get my protein now from mostly meat and eggs.
Some day I'll make a giant hatchery to grow mealworms and crickets and grind them into protein powder but that sort of thing will likely never be lucrative, even though the macros would be amazing.
Edit: Here is the reddit ---
http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/1qgww1/tested_top_50_protein_supplements/
And here is the website of the independent protein assayers
https://labdoor.com/rankings/protein
Second Edit: I see some of you guys like Gaspari protein products. Labdoor ranks all of them pretty low based on "ingredient safety" and "projected efficacy" since they contain artificial sweeteners (Splenda and something called Ace K, whatever that is). My guess is that these guys are prejudiced against artificial sweeteners.
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