prendergast
Sparrow
Can you elaborate on why empathy is in this list? Isn't that just understanding what another person is experiencing? Is there something I am not understanding?
Psychiatry, A Scam Used By The Left To Violate Human Rights And Censor Dissent
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Dan Handler
Sparrow
No, since it blocks cortisol I have experienced an increase in cognitive function.
Dan Handler
Sparrow
Because it lowers testosterone while elevating the levels of oxytocin.
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What I will add for now is that they love the word pathology, with their holy and blessed DSM-5, defining who is deemed unclean and carrying pathology. I definitely believe it is currently partially or mainly a pseudoscience, which as per the title of this thread is now weaponised by the left - ADHD is in the modern DSM but homosexuality is not.
You might want to click on that to read it in context and see what else @Cervantes had to say on the topic.
What I will add for now is that they love the word pathology, with their holy and blessed DSM-5, defining who is deemed unclean and carrying pathology. I definitely believe it is currently partially or mainly a pseudoscience, which as per the title of this thread is now weaponised by the left - ADHD is in the modern DSM but homosexuality is not.
stugatz
Pelican
I am in a family full of emotionally unstable and crazy people, so I definitely don't agree that, in general, therapy is worthless. (I usually distrust psychiatry, though - they're the quickest to diagnose mental illness and the quickest to pump you full of drugs you don't need.)
I have a lot of unresolved trauma from my own youth I'm looking to tackle as I get more into my adult life. What's the best way to tackle that without talking to a psychologist? (My younger brother is himself a psychologist, and I've seen a lot of comments coming from him that I don't like - even if he may be hesitant to pump his clients full of drugs, he once told me he thought I was a BPD case when I ranted for 15 minutes about how much I resented local crime. It seems that an overtone of this profession is to identify "unwell" people so they can't be taken seriously by others.)
I have a lot of unresolved trauma from my own youth I'm looking to tackle as I get more into my adult life. What's the best way to tackle that without talking to a psychologist? (My younger brother is himself a psychologist, and I've seen a lot of comments coming from him that I don't like - even if he may be hesitant to pump his clients full of drugs, he once told me he thought I was a BPD case when I ranted for 15 minutes about how much I resented local crime. It seems that an overtone of this profession is to identify "unwell" people so they can't be taken seriously by others.)
unit414
Robin
I certainly don't think empathy in and of itself is a bad thing. Nor do I think it is a concept, in general, that the jews push. What (((they))) have done is weaponize it. And (((they))) only push it as an important trait in White Christian countries, especially targeting our females, to further their agenda of breaking down White western civilization. Using "empathy" as a way to get us to accept those poor non-white refugees, tolerate those poor, oppressed gays and trannies, feel bad for all these poor women and girls being screwed over by male hierarchy, glass ceilings, etc., etc.
The tribe wants us to be all about empathy... but only toward the causes and people that will speed up the degeneracy, and the displacement of Whites and Christianity. Meanwhile, (((their))) empathy for us is zero.
Johnnyvee
Ostrich
I agree with this!
Empathy has been, like so many other terms, altered from it`s original meaning and is used as a weapon in order to reach certain political/racial/ideological goals. Other examples might be conspiracy, extreme/extremist, sceptic(s) etc.
But the original meaning of the word is simply related to an ability to emulate the viewpoint of another human, or I guess even some intelligent animals. Hence it`s more a measure of "social intelligence", rather than being a euphemism for being nice, and politically correct etc. You could argue that even serial killers are empathic, in the sense that they enjoy the feeling of control and the suffering of their victims. How could they get that kick, if they didn`t have the ability to place themselves in the other persons shoes in the moment of the act?
But alas, psychiatry (mostly) is the realm of drug and crap food pushing quacks, and overly emotional brainwashed women that are steeped in Feminism and Socialism and your other usual degeneracies. If you only did the right thing with these patients you could achieve great results. I found that a Paleo type diet, and quitting all caffeine (when I`m able to) really resolved my OCD symptoms, that I have been struggling with since puberty. There are tons of research on ketogenic diets and various mental disorders such as OCD, schizophrenia, bipolar etc, and the overarching theory of human adaptation makes it all fit nicely. It`s basically the same cause as with autoimmune conditions like diabetes type 1, MS, dermal sclerosis, Croon`s and so on. (and there are definite autoimmune components in mental disorders also) And the culprit is the western diet with the refined flour, HFCS, seed oils and to and increasing degree the plant based (legumes etc.) crap that are replacing meat. Give people real food, sunlight, sleep, exercise and social interaction that are all in line with the best data, and you could solve most of the health problems we see in the modern world. But that makes no one rich, so it doesn`t happen.
The best way to overcome your "trauma" is to pray, lay your burden at the feet of Christ and ask him to bear it. And if God will not bear it for you - then ask God for the strength to bear your cross. Then pray God to deepen your faith and ask God to send you the grace to be a better person to serve him and those around you.
I put "trauma" in quotes not to imply these negative feelings and experiences are not real and difficult - but because "trauma" is a psychological framing of a spiritual problem.
Pray these things regularly and God will probably remove this "psychological" problem - unless these feelings are serving some other of God's purposes. In my personal experience "psychological" difficulties that I had in the past were lifted from starting to pay attention to my spiritual life. The deeply spiritual people that I know don't suffer from "psychological" problems, and the people I know who do suffer from them are all atheists. God never lifts all burdens because suffering is necessary to be deepened spiritually - so it might remain.
"Psychology" makes you focus on yourself exclusively. Your "psychological" problems are defined as something broken inside of you that you must solve by looking into yourself. It is almost like the sin of pride manifested as a medical diagnosis. The more you engage in this framework the more self focused you become and the problems get worse.
The answer is to turn outside yourself - oriented to not just material reality - but something larger - God. So even in the unlikely situation where prayer doesn't completely lift the "psychological" symptoms - they also matter less.
A person who is primarily focused on themselves will suffer from psychological problems mostly, or from things like envy. A person focused more on others will suffer more from problems out in the world - how to make money to send your kids to school, worry that those you love will have problems, worry about the state of the world etc. A person focused on God will still experience suffering from these causes to a more limited extent because their focus - what is important to them, is neither in the internal world, or in the material world - but in heaven. Nobody can be completely detached from self and world in this life. But the extent to which you can develop spiritually makes burdens of self and world easier to bear.
Psychology is also extremely manipulative. 15 minutes complaining about crime -> BPD, 60 minutes hyperventilating about the trauma of having heard "the n-word" 5 years ago -> very healthy and normal, 60 minutes complaining about white supremacy -> very healthy and a well developed moral understanding, 5 minutes talking about jewish supremacy -> dangerous psychopath, report to police for "red flag" swat raid.
"Psychology" was used explicitly as a tool of political repression in the Soviet Union.
Political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia
What is currently a soft social manipulation will soon be used here in the same way.
Dan Handler
Sparrow
The best way to overcome your "trauma" is to pray, lay your burden at the feet of Christ and ask him to bear it. And if God will not bear it for you - then ask God for the strength to bear your cross. Then pray God to deepen your faith and ask God to send you the grace to be a better person to serve him and those around you.
I put "trauma" in quotes not to imply these negative feelings and experiences are not real and difficult - but because "trauma" is a psychological framing of a spiritual problem.
Pray these things regularly and God will probably remove this "psychological" problem - unless these feelings are serving some other of God's purposes. In my personal experience "psychological" difficulties that I had in the past were lifted from starting to pay attention to my spiritual life. The deeply spiritual people that I know don't suffer from "psychological" problems, and the people I know who do suffer from them are all atheists. God never lifts all burdens because suffering is necessary to be deepened spiritually - so it might remain.
"Psychology" makes you focus on yourself exclusively. Your "psychological" problems are defined as something broken inside of you that you must solve by looking into yourself. It is almost like the sin of pride manifested as a medical diagnosis. The more you engage in this framework the more self focused you become and the problems get worse.
The answer is to turn outside yourself - oriented to not just material reality - but something larger - God. So even in the unlikely situation where prayer doesn't completely lift the "psychological" symptoms - they also matter less.
A person who is primarily focused on themselves will suffer from psychological problems mostly, or from things like envy. A person focused more on others will suffer more from problems out in the world - how to make money to send your kids to school, worry that those you love will have problems, worry about the state of the world etc. A person focused on God will still experience suffering from these causes to a more limited extent because their focus - what is important to them, is neither in the internal world, or in the material world - but in heaven. Nobody can be completely detached from self and world in this life. But the extent to which you can develop spiritually makes burdens of self and world easier to bear.
Psychology is also extremely manipulative. 15 minutes complaining about crime -> BPD, 60 minutes hyperventilating about the trauma of having heard "the n-word" 5 years ago -> very healthy and normal, 60 minutes complaining about white supremacy -> very healthy and a well developed moral understanding, 5 minutes talking about jewish supremacy -> dangerous psychopath, report to police for "red flag" swat raid.
"Psychology" was used explicitly as a tool of political repression in the Soviet Union.
Political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
What is currently a soft social manipulation will soon be used here in the same way.
I agree with all of this, the empathy I mentioned earlier increases your suffering because it causes you to worry too much about others, which can elevate your cortisol levels and lower your testosterone.
Having self-pity and worrying too much about yourself will also elevate your cortisol levels so that is also illogical.
This is not to mention that libtards and SJWs, who keep preaching about empathy and equality, are usually hypocrites who cover up their bad behavior by whining about morals in order to trick people into thinking that they are good.
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Writing about your traumas worked for me. Writing is extremely therapeutic.
stugatz
Pelican
Oh, I already have written a lot about it. It's helped. Although part of the reason I always found some comfort in therapy is because I have an awful lot to say about my own past, and I don't want to bore friends to death in order to come to terms with it. It's a shame that mental health is becoming so predatory.
Or was it ever a legit part of medical science?
Avoid sharing traumas and serious mental issues with friends, unless they ask you directly or have faced the exact same issue. I did that mistake a lot when younger, and it was mostly counter-productive. Keep your problems between you and God, or a therapist, if you can find a competent one.
First, it is a bad idea to display mental vulnerabilities and weaknesses in public, because it puts you automatically on the bottom rung of the social hierarchy, which is not always a pleasant situation. And if your friendships turn south, those weaknesses could be used against you.
Secondly, it makes most people uncomfortable, they don't really know what to say or how to help and this just makes everyone sad. When they are intelligent enough to come up with something to say, this will usually not cure you or make you change your behavior.
Sharing vulnerabilities and anxieties with friends can occasionally be a good way to bond, but this must be done sparingly.
Therapy was a great idea, unfortunately the field was set back considerably by the victory of Freud over his rival Jung.
I personally distrust most therapists.
I treat myself by writing, and reading. It has been very effective lately, when I forced myself to write about very painful past traumas. I felt terrible while doing it, and went to bed depressed, but when I woke up I was cured.
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Anyone notice that with the younger generation it's becoming trendy to go see a therapist? Entering therapy isn't just an mere act that you just do because you have to get something fixed but something you have to shout out to the world and announce on social media to get more validation and likes. The cover story being given for being so self-promotional is that they want to remove the stigma of mental illness but at this point it seems like not only is there no stigma for mental illness it's actually a badge of honor to have a diagnosis. It's not just the usual crazy alt-girl feminists who are doing but even preppy conventionally attractive girls are getting into the act. It's ridiculous because these preppy all-American girls are some of the most coddled, high-status people in society that are getting everything handed to them on a silver platter yet they are all claiming to be suffering from anxiety and depression.
I have indeed noticed a certain excitement or relief with people getting a diagnosis. I think it is an American phenomenon, the excitement and anticipation that goes with it. Such a large and exciting list of syndromes, conditions, spectrums out there.
prendergast
Sparrow
Yup, so many disorders out there.
You know what, I think many of the disorders found in the DSM-V are simply unhelpful. When you take a look at some of them, they are really just slight variations of a general disorder and really do not need their own label. For example, let's have a look at some of the anxiety disorder subtypes:
Separation anxiety disorder - Individuals with separation anxiety disorder may avoid social settings (including school refusal) because of concerns about being separated from attachment figures or, in children, about requiring the presence of a parent when it is not developmentally appropriate. Individuals with separation anxiety disorder are usually comfortable in social settings when their attachment figure is present or when they are at home, whereas those with social anxiety disorder may be uncomfortable when social situations occur at home or in the presence of attachment figures
Why is this a "disorder" exactly? Kids are afraid to be away from their parents and guardians. No surprise there. Apparently it is the most common anxiety disorder in children. Well, duh. Why not just call it anxiety? Does it really need its own separate label in order to explain that kids fear being away from their parents, some more so than others? According to DSM-V, the fear must be "persistent/excessive" but I have no idea what the criteria for this is.
Panic disorder - Individuals with social anxiety disorder may have panic attacks, but the concern is about fear of negative evaluation, whereas in panic disorder the concern is about the panic attacks themselves
Panic attacks are caused by anxiety. Just call it anxiety; no need for a separate disorder.
I was also looking at a mental disorder (not related to anxiety) called schizoaffective disorder. According to Wikipedia, "the diagnosis is made when the person has symptoms of both schizophrenia (usually psychosis) and a mood disorder—either bipolar disorder or depression". OK, why not diagnose the person with schizophrenia and bipolar/depression? Do we really need to call it schizoaffective disorder?
When I was doing research in order to understand myself better, I was very confused as to whether I could've had Asperger Syndrome or Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder because the signs/symptoms are very similar to each other: both have an "excessive need for orderliness, neatness, and perfectionism; restricted emotions and interpersonal functioning". This is called comorbidity, I guess.
My honest advice is to avoid getting bogged down in these terms and actually work on solving the problem itself. Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) is probably the most useful method I've heard of and it has helped me out quite a bit. Basically it's about training your brain to recognize negative thought patterns and realizing that they are just that: negative thought patterns. Of course it's more complicated than that but that's just to give a general idea. (I have no clue if it works for stuff like schizophrenia, though). It's kind of like stoicism
Sure, have all these fancy labels for anxiety and depression (usually symptoms of urbanity anyways), but get rid of actual mental disorders such as homosexuality and gender identity disorder (now called gender dysphoria).
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Psychiatric drugs are very difficult to get off. The goal for the pharmaceutical companies is to keep you on them for life because that maximizes profits for them.
www.nytimes.com
en.wikipedia.org
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Many People Taking Antidepressants Discover They Cannot Quit (Published 2018)
Long-term use of the medications is surging in the United States, according to an analysis by The Times. One reason: withdrawal symptoms that make it difficult to stop.
Antidepressant discontinuation syndrome - Wikipedia
Antidepressant Withdrawal
Antidepressant withdrawal symptoms are very real and numerous. Here's what to watch out for ... and what to do.
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Talk to an Orthodox priest. He will know an Orthodox therapist that will account for the spiritual world in your condition.
As a teenager, feeling some anxiety I went to a doctor.Psychiatric drugs are very difficult to get off. The goal for the pharmaceutical companies is to keep you on them for life because that maximizes profits for them.
Many People Taking Antidepressants Discover They Cannot Quit (Published 2018)
Long-term use of the medications is surging in the United States, according to an analysis by The Times. One reason: withdrawal symptoms that make it difficult to stop.Antidepressant discontinuation syndrome - Wikipedia
Antidepressant Withdrawal
Antidepressant withdrawal symptoms are very real and numerous. Here's what to watch out for ... and what to do.
Talk to an Orthodox priest. He will know an Orthodox therapist that will account for the spiritual world in your condition.
They immediately wanted to give me anti-depressants and high doses of benzodiazepines (I forget which one - like Xanax). To my credit I decided to wait until I went to a library and researched these medicines in medical journals - and read about all the addiction potential. When I asked the doctors about the potential for addiction they said: "oh don't worry - you don't have an addictive personality."
I accepted a prescription for the benzo - the lowest dose they would prescribe - which I kept in case of emergency freakout and took nothing.
But it opened my eyes to how these doctors are willing to put kids on addictive drugs after just one meeting. I can understand how normal people get addicted to heavy opiates, and how kids get quickly put on hormones. Scary.
I'm diagnosed schizo-affective and take Seroquel. I have tried to go off the drugs several times but I always end back up in the psych ward so I'm taking the drugs for now. If you can get off of the drugs and function without them, then do it because they can be harmful in the long run. If you find that the drugs help, then by all means use them.
I've been experimenting with Orthomolecular Psychiatry, the original natural treatment for Schizophrenia which involves high doses of vitamin C and B3:
Orthomolecular Vitamin Centre | Using Nutrition to treat many disorders safely and effectively.
Using Nutrition to treat many disorders safely and effectively, based on the award winning work of the late Dr. Abram Hoffer.
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From what I read, you have to taper them very slowly:
Why taper by 10% of my dosage?
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