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<blockquote data-quote="BostonBMW" data-source="post: 1107484" data-attributes="member: 322"><p>Your condescending "education" is based on the same anti-colonialist diatribes that have littered academia in the Post War period. Nothing original here. Sure, you shrewdly attempt to hedge your comments by stating that you support Independence for PR yet the bulk of your arguments are standard fare apologist. So, I'll take a different tack - Lets say we concede all your arguments about the big bad colonist U.S. royally exploiting Puerto Rico and it's economy (once the 'beacon' of the Caribbean). However that very same United States granted Ricans full citizenship and mobility to the United States. Surely, as the first Hispanic origin group to be legally allowed into the United States, Puerto Riquenos would have a leg up on other, later arriving immigrants from Central and South America? Surely, their legal status, affirmative action preferences would translate into a seamless societal/economic integration into the United States:</p><p></p><p><em>In 1990 the relative condition of Puerto Ricans had improved somewhat, but they still had the highest poverty rate of any group on the mainland, and an unemployment rate higher than that of Mexicans, Cubans, and other Hispanics, though not quite as high as that of Blacks. Island-based Puerto-Ricans were worse off than mainland groups by every measure.</em></p><p> <em></em></p><p><em>In 1990, mainland Puerto Rican income was 66 percent the level observed among non-Hispanic Whites, but by 2008 had risen to 69 percent. Relative to Cubans, the highest-income Hispanic group, mainland Puerto Rican incomes rose from 75 percent to 91 percent. During this period, poverty also fell considerably for mainland Puerto Ricans, though they still had one of the highest rates among groups examined here.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Unemployment fell for mainland Puerto Ricans from 1990 to 2008, both absolutely and relative to non-Hispanic Whites. However, the decrease in unemployment was not as dramatic as that for some other groups, such as Mexicans, whose rate dropped 2 percentage points from 7 percent to 5 percent. </em></p><p></p><p>Source: <a href="https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/working-papers/2010/demo/collazo-ryan-bauman-paa2010-paper.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/working-papers/2010/demo/collazo-ryan-bauman-paa2010-paper.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>I can share other sources if the census bureau is tainted in some manner.</p><p></p><p>So what are the <strong>new</strong> set of excuses for the Puertoriquenos in the United States? Racism? Whitey keeping them down even vis-a-vis other Hispanic groups?</p><p></p><p>I stand by my earlier statement that Puerto Rico combines the worst of low achievement and an undeserved sense of American style entitlement. Other Central and South American/Hispanic migrant groups have achieved more socioeconomically while facing greater challenges with respect to immigration, societal acceptance (See Nuyoricans), and language barriers.</p><p></p><p>So lets get real here, Puerto Rico is a net negative for the United States.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BostonBMW, post: 1107484, member: 322"] Your condescending "education" is based on the same anti-colonialist diatribes that have littered academia in the Post War period. Nothing original here. Sure, you shrewdly attempt to hedge your comments by stating that you support Independence for PR yet the bulk of your arguments are standard fare apologist. So, I'll take a different tack - Lets say we concede all your arguments about the big bad colonist U.S. royally exploiting Puerto Rico and it's economy (once the 'beacon' of the Caribbean). However that very same United States granted Ricans full citizenship and mobility to the United States. Surely, as the first Hispanic origin group to be legally allowed into the United States, Puerto Riquenos would have a leg up on other, later arriving immigrants from Central and South America? Surely, their legal status, affirmative action preferences would translate into a seamless societal/economic integration into the United States: [i]In 1990 the relative condition of Puerto Ricans had improved somewhat, but they still had the highest poverty rate of any group on the mainland, and an unemployment rate higher than that of Mexicans, Cubans, and other Hispanics, though not quite as high as that of Blacks. Island-based Puerto-Ricans were worse off than mainland groups by every measure. In 1990, mainland Puerto Rican income was 66 percent the level observed among non-Hispanic Whites, but by 2008 had risen to 69 percent. Relative to Cubans, the highest-income Hispanic group, mainland Puerto Rican incomes rose from 75 percent to 91 percent. During this period, poverty also fell considerably for mainland Puerto Ricans, though they still had one of the highest rates among groups examined here. Unemployment fell for mainland Puerto Ricans from 1990 to 2008, both absolutely and relative to non-Hispanic Whites. However, the decrease in unemployment was not as dramatic as that for some other groups, such as Mexicans, whose rate dropped 2 percentage points from 7 percent to 5 percent. [/i] Source: [URL]https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/working-papers/2010/demo/collazo-ryan-bauman-paa2010-paper.pdf[/URL] I can share other sources if the census bureau is tainted in some manner. So what are the [b]new[/b] set of excuses for the Puertoriquenos in the United States? Racism? Whitey keeping them down even vis-a-vis other Hispanic groups? I stand by my earlier statement that Puerto Rico combines the worst of low achievement and an undeserved sense of American style entitlement. Other Central and South American/Hispanic migrant groups have achieved more socioeconomically while facing greater challenges with respect to immigration, societal acceptance (See Nuyoricans), and language barriers. So lets get real here, Puerto Rico is a net negative for the United States. [/QUOTE]
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