Putin Looks to Make Equating Stalin, USSR to Hitler and " Nazi" Germany, Illegal

get2choppaaa

Pelican
Putin is a nationalist and a quasi dictator. He is incredibly popular in his country by reducing poverty and promoting The Church and Russian values. There is no real challenge to his political stature over there. Navalny? No way, that guy is a CIA puppet.

However, looking at him through rose colored glasses is a bit of projection. Building a mythos around him as anything other than a shrewd politician who appreciates what the people want and overall is effective at providing that is foolish. He acts in self interest as Easy_C stated above.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
Look at his comments about how Lenin “Destroyed Russia” and was “a revolutionary, not a statesman”.

It was an interesting off the cuff conversation and seems to indicate that Putin is somewhat of an ethnocentrist in his views; that would explain a lot of how he acts of true.
 
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“Don’t let ‘perfect’ be the enemy of ‘good’.”

If it is a choice between this and globalhomo/open borders agendas, let Putin do this.

I do not want to ascribe any overwhelming power to her (she’s clearly controlled opposition from outside Russia) but take a look at the wedding of Ksenia Sobchak. Her late father was Putin’s mentor:

Vladimir Putin's 'goddaughter' strips to underwear at her wedding in front of in-laws​

Ksenia Sobchak performed a show as she allegedly crawls on the stage and spreads her legs apart in front of the guests
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putins-goddaughter-strips-underwear-20081708

This woman ran for President and was included in the debates. What a joke.

Liberalism foisted on non-liberal cultures can lead to crazy, sick outcomes at warp speed, which is why you can already see mentally ill subcultures entrenched in places like Warsaw, Prague and Budapest, even if these cities are more conservative than Anglo ones.

Morally deficient, narcissistic types like Sobchak are chomping at the bit to plunge Russia into Western-style political debauchery.
 

MrFreezy

Sparrow
This is the biggest guy in Russian music at the moment, complete with 666 tattoo.

Yeah thanks for mentioning Timati here together with (((Morgenstern))). Maybe this belongs in the JQ thread but this is the fine gentleman making African American Music for Sergej and Aljosha:
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Even my mum who pays for Russian TV and watches it regularly told me that its very surprising how good Jewish singers and artists are doing in Putins Russia... I just start laughing and keep the conspiracy theories to myself. Whatever.
 

get2choppaaa

Pelican
“Don’t let ‘perfect’ be the enemy of ‘good’.”

If it is a choice between this and globalhomo/open borders agendas, let Putin do this.

I do not want to ascribe any overwhelming power to her (she’s clearly controlled opposition from outside Russia) but take a look at the wedding of Ksenia Sobchak. Her late father was Putin’s mentor:


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putins-goddaughter-strips-underwear-20081708

This woman ran for President and was included in the debates. What a joke.

Liberalism foisted on non-liberal cultures can lead to crazy, sick outcomes at warp speed, which is why you can already see mentally ill subcultures entrenched in places like Warsaw, Prague and Budapest, even if these cities are more conservative than Anglo ones.

Morally deficient, narcissistic types like Sobchak are chomping at the bit to plunge Russia into Western-style political debauchery.
This is as disgusting as any Lady Gaga/ Nikki Manaj/degeneracy espoused as the decadent perversion in the West.

Russia has its own issues and while there is absolutely a large element of Orthodoxy in their culture, they aren't exactly full of Saints either.

The (((Oligarchs))) still have a strong hold in Russia today, and their own Pop culture demonstrates this.
 

Coja Petrus Uscan

Hummingbird
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Yeah thanks for mentioning Timati here together with (((Morgenstern))). Maybe this belongs in the JQ thread but this is the fine gentleman making African American Music for Sergej and Aljosha:
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Even my mum who pays for Russian TV and watches it regularly told me that its very surprising how good Jewish singers and artists are doing in Putins Russia... I just start laughing and keep the conspiracy theories to myself. Whatever.

With Пютый-пут:

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The whole gang:

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Here he is with Kardayov (sp?) - the Chechen leader who recommended Chechens quietly kill their gay family members.

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Oy vey.

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I doubt they'd be so blatant in The US.


XX век: большевики-евреи меняют свои фамилии на русские (Бронштейн-Троцкий, Розенфельд-Каменев и т.д.) и в конце 10-х годов начинают управлять стадом
XXI век: (((русский))) Алишер меняет фамилию Валеев на Моргенштерн и в конце 10-х годов начинает управлять стадом и школотой

There are good things you can say about Russia - the gold, the low debt, some improvements. But we do not have an ally countries. Hungary likely comes before Russia.

A lengthy article of the Juduisation of Russian culture:

 
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MrFreezy

Sparrow
Not surprisingly the only thing I can find either of these degenerates relating to Christianity is subversion.


I think this is beyond what they are up to in America.
What can I say? I m really proud of being half-Russian ( Russian/ german-mennonite) but stuff like that changed my mind about moving back to Russia. I was visiting my relatives back in 2008 with the thought in the back of my head of possibly moving back. No chance. Russians are still demoralized. Alcoholism without end. Criminal activities - no on will tell you what they do for a living if you ask them straight up. Sexual amorality - we went for fishing on a pubic beach and couples would be just doing it in a car parked next to us. In broad daylight. Packs of stray dogs just running around like in some apocalyptic movie.
Probably its better now. I don't know. But don't expect good manners or a return to Christian morals as long as (((stars))) like that are ruling the big stage. Nothing really Russian about it either. Rap music got nothing to do with Russian culture neither does Judaism. But I guess if you are permanently drunk and high, unmarried and unemployed, you will accept a lot of weird stuff.
 

Coja Petrus Uscan

Hummingbird
Gold Member
What can I say? I m really proud of being half-Russian ( Russian/ german-mennonite) but stuff like that changed my mind about moving back to Russia. I was visiting my relatives back in 2008 with the thought in the back of my head of possibly moving back. No chance. Russians are still demoralized. Alcoholism without end. Criminal activities - no on will tell you what they do for a living if you ask them straight up. Sexual amorality - we went for fishing on a pubic beach and couples would be just doing it in a car parked next to us. In broad daylight. Packs of stray dogs just running around like in some apocalyptic movie.
Probably its better now. I don't know. But don't expect good manners or a return to Christian morals as long as (((stars))) like that are ruling the big stage. Nothing really Russian about it either. Rap music got nothing to do with Russian culture neither does Judaism. But I guess if you are permanently drunk and high, unmarried and unemployed, you will accept a lot of weird stuff.

This whole topic has sealed what appears to me to be the real power in Russia. Although not directly Churchill said Russia is - a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma. It is hard to get a grasp on anything with this country. It is the only country you can go to and understand less when you leave.

I had sensed that Russia had a terrible pop culture, being in taxis with the most soulless of dance music, with a young driver who has spent all his spare money on beatnik-meets-sports sports brands. The faces of many young Russians seemed to be deeply ingrained with a horrible nothing-ness. And certainly, Putin is less popular with young people, particularly in Moscow. Despite likely vote rigging, the last Moscow Duma election saw big losses for Putin. And the main reason for this is (despite claims to the contrary) the Russian economy has seen essentially no growth in the last ten years, a lot of which is due to sanctions in lieu of Putin's invasion of Ukraine and annexation of Crimea. Moscow is incredibly materialist. They want more money, which Putin can't deliver in lieu of Russian's terrible top-down-corruption and the effect of sanctions.

Here is Russia's real GDP:

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I have heard talk on the tribal nature of Russia's oligarchs for some time. Having now looked into it, it is true, most of the oligarchs are Jews. Even the one who is Muslim is married to a Jew. Of the oligarchs you can say - they are almost all Jews, with a few Germans; most of them have dual nationality and/or live and have their real base in Cyprus or Londongrad, i.e. Russia's owners and Putin's friends are barely Russian and have no allegiance to the country. They are ready to bolt to their hideout as soon as the 'Russian' mafia may turn on them.

You can see how the same satanic and one-eye symbolism pervades "popular" music in Korea, Japan, The West and Russia. If you look into the owners/handlers of 'Russian' musicians, they are the same as control the artists in The West and plenty of the usual suspects. Pop culture is one area of corporate colonialism where there is no borders. Everyone is under attack by the same direct, unified system. Whereas Beijing, Moscow and Washington are different predator bases.

The nationalism and religion of Russia are a sham and a dream, in the same way we have our shams in The West. As they are attacked by the new culture, they will transform further from the 1980s cool kids many are today, to the demonic monsters of Los Angels - just with less money. I have seem numerous statements Putin has made on Russian values, degradation etc. Yet the culture produce in his autocracy is more overtly satanic than the much more degraded West. He has done very little, and quite likely doesn't understand any of it, or at best does not care.

On the actual topic of OP, I see there is a close Putin associate named Boris Isaacovich Abramovich Spiegel (Russia's Jerry Nadler). He founded an organisation - A World Without Nazism and is also a corrupt oligarch. The main aim of this organisation is to obfuscate the millions of people killed by the 21st century's greatest colonial power - The Soviet Union. Boris is also in the music biz. Here is his son-in-law complete with a few MK-programming motifs:


Boris suffers heavily from gluttony.

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In his natural attire:

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Also, a lot of talk that Boris is a pedophile - https://regularis-news.livejournal.com/1102448.html

As a side observation on the topic on music. I was reading about a Soviet-Jewish propagandist and film maker called Sergey Eisenstein. His techniques have been used heavily in Hollywerid. At the begining of The Soviet Union, when supplies were too limited to make films, Sergey and his peers were tasked with splicing together previously-made films into a sequence that generated the highest emotional response. This low-level form of mind control was later used to construct propaganda to assuage the masses and pus them in the right direction.

I suspect the same has been done with music, on steroids. If that was what a few essentially broke Communists were up to over 100 years ago. All this modern music is technically garbage, auto-tuned and requires little talent. They have simply found the codes to addict people, to cultivate emotions (up and down) to turn them into degenerate slaves.
 
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Coja Petrus Uscan

Hummingbird
Gold Member
This is the handler of Vladimr Putin's best friend, satanist rapper, Tiamati:

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All seeing eye, masonic G, Hebrew characters? At the bottom it says "let there be light" and a menoah, i.e. the light of satan

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Three stars of David with a Hebrew character.

Tiamati, before 'roids, with a Hebrew friend?

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With Tiamati

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This guy is also a Tatar - Джиган (Dzhgan).

The inevitable salute:

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Seems the salute of Baphomet is the favourite of Russia's subverters:

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TXbro

Sparrow
Gold Member
Comunism and fascism were not the same, but both were evil. Both represent the darkest side of human being.

Objectively false. I used to say this because I accepted the Left's moral and intellectual framework. I would also say it so I wouldn't be called a fascist but I would be called a fascist anyways. I'm not saying that right wingers should start calling themselves fascist but we must jettison this kneejerk disavowal of "fascism is also bad." A basic bitch democrat will almost never disavow communism. We must not disavow fascism or National Socialism.
 

NickK

Woodpecker
Orthodox
The basic historical error here is that National Socialism is actually a far-right movement. It's the opposite.
It's a far-left movement, immediately the right of communism. That's what the Nazis thought of themselves and that's how Germans in the 30's viewed it.
It's clearly socialism, hence its...um... name?
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
The economic record of the National Socialists in 1930s Germany was arguably the best of any western country in the last 100 years. They've managed to wipe out Weimar hyperinflation and depression era 25% unemployment rates in a short period without any debt, by, among other measures, taking over the monetary system and linking it to labor, though a productive national industry and large national infrastructure projects (like the Autobahn, still to this day the best highway system in Europe).

The "socialist" in National Socialist refers to those kinds of measures, along with state-mandate family support with policies like paying mothers to raise their children and providing young families with subsidized access to housing and necessities (car and furniture). Those measures resulted in an unprecedented economic boom.

The Nazis had other serious issues, notably their pagan cult of "aryanism", but economics were not one of those, they handled that part superbly. Their economic and monetary system was vastly superior to ours, which is a system of financial capitalism where taxpayers subsidize big banks and the 0.1%, at the expense of the national industry and the purchasing power of the middle class. China today has an economic system that is much closer to that of the NSDAP, a system of industrial capitalism, which is not that far removed from the type of capitalism that built American wealth in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. That model of national industrial policy is why China has been so successful.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Putin slashed Russian abortion rates by 80%-90%, this was a major policy focus of his tenure, which he highlighted as a foundational threat to Russia's future and a cultural remnant of the Soviet dark ages. Glowie critics like that Fitzgerald dude will twist facts like these by saying that Putin's Russia allows abortion so he must be a corrupt satanist. Note that the abortion rates in Russia, shown below, have not only come down sharply but are still dropping, now dipping below those of western European countries like France.

Same with those who claim that he is on the covid psyop just because Russia makes their version of the vaccine, when in fact vaccination rates in Russia have remained very low, less than 10%, with vaccines readily available only to those who want them, and no coercive vax program imposed on their population.

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Number of abortions in Russia, 1990-2019
 
The reason for this move is obviously related to current events and Russia's nationalist ideology

It's unfortunate that some here held Putin in such a positive regard - only to be disappointed, and then move to the other end of the spectrum and 'out' him as some sort of fifth columnist/ sell out

He is neither of the two. The same could be said about the Russian people bytheway, who some for some reason unclear to me are being looked up to as a bastion of Christianity, manliness, red-pilled behaviour and all around badassery.

@911 has already laid out in detailed posts how Putin has managed to get a broken nation back on its feet, and how he did that against all odds. I don't think many people here understand how bad Russia had it in the 90s. People on RVF talk about the 'breakdown of the USA' but that currently stands at 1 percent of what Russia had to go through

There is at least one member here that has lived through this experience that can tell you all about it (@aynrus). Think gangs of glue sniffing street children hanging out in and around sewer systems near the Red Square, prostitution rings (children included) that were directly picking young girls of the streets to send them to Dubai/Tel Aviv, insane (hushed up) murder rates, criminal gangs (mostly from the Caucasus) controlling entire neighbourhoods and the country being looted by hooknosed local and foreign vultures

As for this decision, there are several angles to analyse it from

1. Putin is not an ethnic nationalist, and Russia is not an ethnic nationalist state. His main grassroots rivals at home are nationalist/communist (as opposed to the globalist faction that is elitist). It baffles me that at any point in time people in the West thought the opposite.

Putin is a civic nationalist, and Russia is a country that is home to tens of different ethnic groups. As such he'll want to keep the nationalist opposition down as they are, in my opinion, the most potent rival political force for him.

The nationalist faction is not as strong and outspoken as it used to be. I think most in here can remember the videos of groups of neonazis hunting down minorities on metros or on the streets. Putin curbed this in 2012-2014 as it was getting out of hand

Navalny for instance, before he got groomed as a globohomo pawn, was a far right sympathiser who regularly showed up at demos where people were suffering from stiff right arms

The nationalists have been steadily getting more vocal again as the results of the economic stagnation by the Crimea related sanctions is still being felt, and many accuse Putin of being too weak and too lenient on the international stage.

2. The current situation in Ukraine and Belarus. The shock troops carrying out Maidan were nearly all farright sympathisers that at some times hold genocidal ideas towards Russians in the Ukraine. Many of the batallions on the contact line are made up of these same people. In Kiev they apparantly hold quite a lot of power too.

The same goes for Belarus. I wasn't aware of this either, but during the protests last year there were apparantly many far right protestors that were doing the street fighting. The journalist Roman Protasevich (arrested in that airplane incident) idem dito. From Azov batallón militant to globalist propagandist in less than a year

In the FSU neo-nazism and globohomo go hand in hand.

3. The importance of the Great Patriotic War. The Second World War is a vital pillar in Putin's civic nationalist ideology and has been designed as a rallying point for Russians of all creeds and backgrounds to rally around. In my humble opinion all non nation-states (ie. RUSSIA) are not only vulnerable to centrifugic forces, it is all but inevitable

In the Russian version of The Great Patriotic War there is a villain in the form of Nazi Germany. Hard to argue with that from a Russian point of view, too. Like in the West WW2 is being kept alive for contemporary political motives

This form of 'othering' is for me like the ancient scapegoating. Putin is creating distractions and by doing so maintains unity within the Russian people/state.
 
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“Don’t let ‘perfect’ be the enemy of ‘good’.”

If it is a choice between this and globalhomo/open borders agendas, let Putin do this.

I do not want to ascribe any overwhelming power to her (she’s clearly controlled opposition from outside Russia) but take a look at the wedding of Ksenia Sobchak. Her late father was Putin’s mentor:


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putins-goddaughter-strips-underwear-20081708

This woman ran for President and was included in the debates. What a joke.

Liberalism foisted on non-liberal cultures can lead to crazy, sick outcomes at warp speed, which is why you can already see mentally ill subcultures entrenched in places like Warsaw, Prague and Budapest, even if these cities are more conservative than Anglo ones.

Morally deficient, narcissistic types like Sobchak are chomping at the bit to plunge Russia into Western-style political debauchery.
That video is demonic. What a nasty strumpet. I'm sorry Walter, I'm going to assume there's no relation, and that you are the only one around here who gives a... you know, the thing!
 
There exists degrees of evil. In both examples. Putin's ban on comparing Hitler and Stalin is wrongheaded.
Just because an evil lord leads your Nation to victory against opposing evil lord doesn't lessen his/her evil.

It's like fawning over one fallen angel because he supposedly protected you from other fallen Angels.

Imagine if you got the shit beaten out of you by a master. But he protects you against other men who will also beat you. Does that wipe away the abuse by that original master?
 
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Goni

Woodpecker
The reason for this move is obviously related to current events and Russia's nationalist ideology

It's unfortunate that some here held Putin in such a positive regard - only to be disappointed, and then move to the other end of the spectrum and 'out' him as some sort of fifth columnist/ sell out

He is neither of the two. The same could be said about the Russian people bytheway, who some for some reason unclear to me are being looked up to as a bastion of Christianity, manliness, red-pilled behaviour and all around badassery.

@911 has already laid out in detailed posts how Putin has managed to get a broken nation back on its feet, and how he did that against all odds. I don't think many people here understand how bad Russia had it in the 90s. People on RVF talk about the 'breakdown of the USA' but that currently stands at 1 percent of what Russia had to go through

There is at least one member here that has lived through this experience that can tell you all about it (@aynrus). Think gangs of glue sniffing street children hanging out in and around sewer systems near the Red Square, prostitution rings (children included) that were directly picking young girls of the streets to send them to Dubai/Tel Aviv, insane (hushed up) murder rates, criminal gangs (mostly from the Caucasus) controlling entire neighbourhoods and the country being looted by hooknosed local and foreign vultures

As for this decision, there are several angles to analyse it from

1. Putin is not an ethnic nationalist, and Russia is not an ethnic nationalist state. His main grassroots rivals at home are nationalist/communist (as opposed to the globalist faction that is elitist). It baffles me that at any point in time people in the West thought the opposite.

Putin is a civic nationalist, and Russia is a country that is home to tens of different ethnic groups. As such he'll want to keep the nationalist opposition down as they are, in my opinion, the most potent rival political force for him.

The nationalist faction is not as strong and outspoken as it used to be. I think most in here can remember the videos of groups of neonazis hunting down minorities on metros or on the streets. Putin curbed this in 2012-2014 as it was getting out of hand

Navalny for instance, before he got groomed as a globohomo pawn, was a far right sympathiser who regularly showed up at demos where people were suffering from stiff right arms

The nationalists have been steadily getting more vocal again as the results of the economic stagnation by the Crimea related sanctions is still being felt, and many accuse Putin of being too weak and too lenient on the international stage.

2. The current situation in Ukraine and Belarus. The shock troops carrying out Maidan were nearly all farright sympathisers that at some times hold genocidal ideas towards Russians in the Ukraine. Many of the batallions on the contact line are made up of these same people. In Kiev they apparantly hold quite a lot of power too.

The same goes for Belarus. I wasn't aware of this either, but during the protests last year there were apparantly many far right protestors that were doing the street fighting. The journalist Roman Protasevich (arrested in that airplane incident) idem dito. From Azov batallón militant to globalist propagandist in less than a year

In the FSU neo-nazism and globohomo go hand in hand.

3. The importance of the Great Patriotic War. The Second World War is a vital pillar in Putin's civic nationalist ideology and has been designed as a rallying point for Russians of all creeds and backgrounds to rally around. In my humble opinion all non nation-states (ie. RUSSIA) are not only vulnerable to centrifugic forces, it is all but inevitable

In the Russian version of The Great Patriotic War there is a villain in the form of Nazi Germany. Hard to argue with that from a Russian point of view, too. Like in the West WW2 is being kept alive for contemporary political motives

This form of 'othering' is for me like the ancient scapegoating. Putin is creating distractions and by doing so maintains unity within the Russian people/state.
What's your opinion on those degenerated " celebrities " that own in large the entertainment industry in Russia?

One thing is for sure, if Putin wanted, he could have annihilated them in 1 week .
 
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