Qatar World Cup

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
By the way, it's been 24 hours already, why FIFA hasn't uploaded a proper replay or highlight of the Argentina vs France final (I mean the important parts, not the full match of course)? The NBA, NFL, MLB and NHL upload replays of their matches ASAP, heck even the National Lacrosse League does it, so why does the arguably most important sports match in the world doesn't get a replay? FIFA's official YouTube channel is full of either re-broadcasts of past World Cups or highlights of previous 2022 matches that are uploaded 2-3 days after. :)
I thought the TV broadcasters make the replay clips, plus anybody with the equipment to do it themselves. Aren't there tweets and Youtube videos already of the big plays?

Here's one I found:

 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
The irony is that all of these diversity and mass migration agenda will only make W. Europe and S. America keep winning the World Cup because they're sucking in the best players. England, France and Germany might as well get to the point and just recruit foreigners from all over the world instead of pretending they still want natives in their rosters

The first time I watched the World Cup was in 2002. My roommate at the time was from Germany and was so excited about it. I watched along with him, which was interesting because it was in Japan/South Korea and the games were on after we would get back from the bars. Watching that Brazil team with Ronaldo got me hooked into watching the World Cup. What a great run they had.

I told my roommate that if soccer ever picked up in the USA, that we could just buy the best players and call them "US Citizens" what would stop us? And he said the fact the USA doesn't have a big time professional soccer league is the obstacle in preventing this.

But what would stop Germany or France or England from offer millions of dollars and citizenship to anyone they want, so they will play on their national team? I suppose just what little is left of national pride prevents this. That they fear the English fans may not root hard for some foreign mercenary. Is there a FIFA rule against this?
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

Peacock
Catholic
Gold Member
To be honest I found that disrespectful and in that position I would have declined to put the robe on. Messi should be lifting that trophy with his Argentinian shirt in full view, not looking like Dracula so that Qatar gets some token publicity. Qatar are the hosts not the winners. They have no business trying to promote themselves at that point. The moment belongs to the winners. In what other world cup has the winning captain been encouraged to cover his national shirt with the local attire as he hoists the trophy? These Qataris think money buys them everything.
But that's just normal multiculturalism the way it's supposed to be, you go to another country and respect and follow their customs, eat their food, etc.

If I went for an important official event in China or whoever else, I would be happy to wear their traditional clothing or engage in some other traditional ceremony, and me doing so shouldn't be viewed as coercion.
 

MilvianForce

Robin
Non-Christian
There's also Macron coming into the pitch to console Mbappe after their side's loss:



I honestly wouldn't mind political leaders supporting professional athletes otherwise, but given the present agenda the French president is pushing as well as what the star player of France represents, the scene has a cringe element to it.


Nah he's being treated like a king for his victory, he deserves it. And it depends on how much you consider sports as "insignificant," people find meaning in competition and purpose, and something like the World Cup which puts countries around the world in a friendly competition is better for humanity than wars being constantly waged.

But you're right about sports stars being glorified, idolized and outright worshipped as something more than they really are. I remember when the Golden State Warriors won the NBA Championship this year and there was a kid in my country who made some drawing or painting of Steph Curry and posted it on social media. The thing reeks of outright idolatry and putting people who don't care about your existence on a pedestal.

There use to be a time where we would stand up ASAP as soon as the leader of our family/or elder/or president/Prime Minister would step into our presence, but then again lack of respect these days (and Macron deserves none anyways). LOL and staying seated and getting counseled by one of the global kabal members.
 

Tardynox

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
By the way, it's been 24 hours already, why FIFA hasn't uploaded a proper replay or highlight of the Argentina vs France final (I mean the important parts, not the full match of course)? The NBA, NFL, MLB and NHL upload replays of their matches ASAP, heck even the National Lacrosse League does it, so why does the arguably most important sports match in the world doesn't get a replay? FIFA's official YouTube channel is full of either re-broadcasts of past World Cups or highlights of previous 2022 matches that are uploaded 2-3 days after. :)
FIFA isn't that punctual on their upload schedule, which is somewhat annoying to be honest until you find out their summary is only 2 minutes long. Might as well just make a YouTube short at that point, but it probably doesn't matter much to them as YouTube isn't their main social medium.
 

EuropeanCanon

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic
This is true. I accidently found myself in a bar that was playing a World Cup game, and I was amazed to see how this flopping would occur every minute or two.

It's a game of trying to kick the ball while your opponents use their feet to try to stop you, and yet every time two player's legs touched, one of them would be laying on the ground, writhing around in agony, totally faking it, with a new one every 60-90 seconds. How embarrassing!

Also, the game I saw ended in a 0-0 score, which I understand soccer fans like to see, but I can't even imagine how this would be possible! There should at least be overtime to settle the result of the game, but if not, the game should be structured where scoring is likely enough to happen for at least one team over the course of an entire game.
Its not the game for americans, thats fine. In my country we laugh at american football and find it absurd. Doesn't mean anything. Its just different tastes.
 

EuropeanCanon

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic
There use to be a time where we would stand up ASAP as soon as the leader of our family/or elder/or president/Prime Minister would step into our presence, but then again lack of respect these days (and Macron deserves none anyways). LOL and staying seated and getting counseled by one of the global kabal members.
The main thing I was confused by is Macron usually has his mother with him. People tell me it is actually his wife but it can't be as she is too old.
 

OrthoSerb

Woodpecker
Orthodox
But that's just normal multiculturalism the way it's supposed to be, you go to another country and respect and follow their customs, eat their food, etc.

If I went for an important official event in China or whoever else, I would be happy to wear their traditional clothing or engage in some other traditional ceremony, and me doing so shouldn't be viewed as coercion.
I'm not sure what you mean by "normal multi-culturalism". Multi-culturalism is a modern term which presents the flooding of European nations with foreigners as something enriching and positive whilst actually being destructive. This type of multi-culturalism seeks to eliminate any distinction between host and guest, if not even put the guest above the host. I would never use the term in a positive context. The interaction between people from different cultures on a temporary basis (i.e. when someone is visiting a foreign land) and where the host/guest distinction is clearly maintained and respected is something different altogether. Obviously one shows respect. But respect works both ways. The host can require things of his guests that overstep the mark and are not motivated by a genuine desire to show respect and hospitality. Guests can be used and disrespected. This wasn't a traditional Qatari ceremony, it was quite simply the presentation of the World Cup to the tournament champions. The head of state should be there to congratulate the team and hand the trophy to the captain. Nothing more and nothing less. There's no tradition of host nations dressing up the winning captain in attire of their own choosing. A genuine host who wants to honour his guest will know when to take a step back, not impose himself on his guest to keep making himself the centre of attention. If he wanted to gift Messi the clothing then that would be considerate. Dressing him up in it immediately prior to the lifting of the trophy is a disrespectful imposition. There's a symbolism to this. The team has fought for the Argentine colours the entire tournament. Those are the colours that should be in full and clear display when the captain lifts the trophy. They should not be obscured or covered up by a black cape.

In the great scheme of things this is obviously not one of the world's biggest problems. Despite the fact that I used to be a big football fan, I actually didn't watch a single full game of this tournament. Sport in general has less and less significance to me and its become obvious to me that its used as a form of escapism which prevents people from acheiving things in their own lives and working on themselves. It has become an idol for many people. I just don't like it when even small "t" traditions are cast aside and then its presented as something harmless or even respectful.
 

BarrontheTigercat

Kingfisher
Other Christian
To be honest I found that disrespectful and in that position I would have declined to put the robe on. Messi should be lifting that trophy with his Argentinian shirt in full view, not looking like Dracula so that Qatar gets some token publicity. Qatar are the hosts not the winners. They have no business trying to promote themselves at that point. The moment belongs to the winners. In what other world cup has the winning captain been encouraged to cover his national shirt with the local attire as he hoists the trophy? These Qataris think money buys them everything.
yeah on reflection I think it was bad.

I dont think that has ever been done before:

no cossack hat in 2018 no samba outfit in 2014 no Zulu clothes in 2010 or German lederhosen in 2006..
1970 the greatest world cup of all time and history would have been bequeathed an iconic photo of Pele raising the trophy .. in a Mexican hat? Because it wasn't about the 1970 all time great Brazil side, it was about Mexico?


it's actually outrageous what they did and was a cheap and low class move...
somewhat in keeping with the morally bankrupt background of why this World Cup was ever given to Qatar at all .
in doing that it took away from an amazing final up until that point and alot of people started talking about what were the hosts playing at? rather than just enjoying the Argentinians lifting the cup which they had been until that moment.
 

Yeagerist

Kingfisher
Orthodox Catechumen
I told my roommate that if soccer ever picked up in the USA, that we could just buy the best players and call them "US Citizens" what would stop us? And he said the fact the USA doesn't have a big time professional soccer league is the obstacle in preventing this.

But what would stop Germany or France or England from offer millions of dollars and citizenship to anyone they want, so they will play on their national team? I suppose just what little is left of national pride prevents this. That they fear the English fans may not root hard for some foreign mercenary. Is there a FIFA rule against this?
What's funny is that China is doing what you described as straight up paying washed up foreign stars to play in its "super league," and obviously it has led China nowhere unlike South Korea or Japan which regularly represent Asia in the World Cup. Although there are other factors at play here, such as Chinese high school kids spending 12 hours in school a day, thus having no time or energy to play football.
It's ironic how China is mocked for having foreigners playing football as a lazy shortcut, but when England or France does it, it's celebrated as "diversity."



Makes sense. Mbappe is dating a transsexual.
Considering Macron's past behavior, he might as well be trying to steal Mbappe away from that cross-dresser lover :laughter:
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

Peacock
Catholic
Gold Member
I'm not sure what you mean by "normal multi-culturalism". Multi-culturalism is a modern term which presents the flooding of European nations with foreigners as something enriching and positive whilst actually being destructive. This type of multi-culturalism seeks to eliminate any distinction between host and guest, if not even put the guest above the host. I would never use the term in a positive context. The interaction between people from different cultures on a temporary basis (i.e. when someone is visiting a foreign land) and where the host/guest distinction is clearly maintained and respected is something different altogether. Obviously one shows respect. But respect works both ways. The host can require things of his guests that overstep the mark and are not motivated by a genuine desire to show respect and hospitality. Guests can be used and disrespected. This wasn't a traditional Qatari ceremony, it was quite simply the presentation of the World Cup to the tournament champions. The head of state should be there to congratulate the team and hand the trophy to the captain. Nothing more and nothing less. There's no tradition of host nations dressing up the winning captain in attire of their own choosing. A genuine host who wants to honour his guest will know when to take a step back, not impose himself on his guest to keep making himself the centre of attention. If he wanted to gift Messi the clothing then that would be considerate. Dressing him up in it immediately prior to the lifting of the trophy is a disrespectful imposition. There's a symbolism to this. The team has fought for the Argentine colours the entire tournament. Those are the colours that should be in full and clear display when the captain lifts the trophy. They should not be obscured or covered up by a black cape.

In the great scheme of things this is obviously not one of the world's biggest problems. Despite the fact that I used to be a big football fan, I actually didn't watch a single full game of this tournament. Sport in general has less and less significance to me and its become obvious to me that its used as a form of escapism which prevents people from acheiving things in their own lives and working on themselves. It has become an idol for many people. I just don't like it when even small "t" traditions are cast aside and then its presented as something harmless or even respectful.
By "normal multiculturalism", I mean "normal interaction between different cultures/countries". Nothing modern or globalist.
 

BarrontheTigercat

Kingfisher
Other Christian
The first time I watched the World Cup was in 2002. My roommate at the time was from Germany and was so excited about it. I watched along with him, which was interesting because it was in Japan/South Korea and the games were on after we would get back from the bars. Watching that Brazil team with Ronaldo got me hooked into watching the World Cup. What a great run they had.

I told my roommate that if soccer ever picked up in the USA, that we could just buy the best players and call them "US Citizens" what would stop us? And he said the fact the USA doesn't have a big time professional soccer league is the obstacle in preventing this.

But what would stop Germany or France or England from offer millions of dollars and citizenship to anyone they want, so they will play on their national team? I suppose just what little is left of national pride prevents this. That they fear the English fans may not root hard for some foreign mercenary. Is there a FIFA rule against this?
This was addressed last time you asked this question.
And I quote:

"Your argument seems to be for picking imports because they are good at a sport because of skills honed in adversity. But where does that end?
Why not reserve places for promising kids from the third world year on year such that each World Cup becomes rent a mob vs rent a mob and who has the more expensive and thus attractive migrant worker and teen scholarship program for foreign footballers who will join a mercenary national side?

That seems a disaster.

There was a good Polish Footballer who got a UK passport and qualified to play for England back in 2014. The English players came out in force to reject the idea.
The only time it has happened previously was when Canadian Owen Hargreaves played well for Bayern Munich and it turned out that he had a UK passport, but it still felt a bit weird.
Scotland under German coach Berti Vogts went seeking players (including black players) who "qualified" for a while but it was seen as ludicrous and the players themselves said that it was surreal and that it cheapened the shirt
."

So there's your answer.. again.

The players, the coaches, the fans - all of them don't like it and so it is a bridge too far for the media to push on people.
America can try it if they want but really they need to establish a footballing culture in their own league in the same way that British teams have always been known as playing at a fast pace and very physically, Italians playing a strategic game with an airtight defence etc. etc.

What has been discussed as well is that you put stuff out there and when people correct you, you ignore it and then repeat the same things, same questions. Again.

But never mind. Its been quite a World Cup we've watched together and was an amazing final.
Im glad Argentina won and not some collective of migrants who grew up from infancy in France as welfare queens sucking on a Western Government's teat.... in order to be later lionised as "Our Greatest Strength"

A lot of normies I know are even asking "what is the Kalergi Plan?" after this final and after seeing the stark imagery of contrasts that they could no longer ignore.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
This was addressed last time you asked this question.
And I quote:

"Your argument seems to be for picking imports because they are good at a sport because of skills honed in adversity. But where does that end?
Why not reserve places for promising kids from the third world year on year such that each World Cup becomes rent a mob vs rent a mob and who has the more expensive and thus attractive migrant worker and teen scholarship program for foreign footballers who will join a mercenary national side?

That seems a disaster.

There was a good Polish Footballer who got a UK passport and qualified to play for England back in 2014. The English players came out in force to reject the idea.
The only time it has happened previously was when Canadian Owen Hargreaves played well for Bayern Munich and it turned out that he had a UK passport, but it still felt a bit weird.
Scotland under German coach Berti Vogts went seeking players (including black players) who "qualified" for a while but it was seen as ludicrous and the players themselves said that it was surreal and that it cheapened the shirt
."

So there's your answer.. again.

The players, the coaches, the fans - all of them don't like it and so it is a bridge too far for the media to push on people.
America can try it if they want but really they need to establish a footballing culture in their own league in the same way that British teams have always been known as playing at a fast pace and very physically, Italians playing a strategic game with an airtight defence etc. etc.

What has been discussed as well is that you put stuff out there and when people correct you, you ignore it and then repeat the same things, same questions. Again.

But never mind. Its been quite a World Cup we've watched together and was an amazing final.
Im glad Argentina won and not some collective of migrants who grew up from infancy in France as welfare queens sucking on a Western Government's teat.... in order to be later lionised as "Our Greatest Strength"

A lot of normies I know are even asking "what is the Kalergi Plan?" after this final and after seeing the stark imagery of contrasts that they could no longer ignore.
My apologies, I honestly forgot I even asked this, much less that it was answered. My bad. The funny thing is, is that it appears there is no real FIFA oversight to prevent this and it is more just the players morality keeping it in check.

You are correct about the Kalergi Plan. When I showed my mom the French team, she was shocked. As an American, if you are not on the internet finding the news they hide from us, you would still think France is like 98% White and just has a very small minority community from war refugees. Most Americans are completely unaware of the Yellow Vest protests or even the Energy Crisis protests.
 

Yeagerist

Kingfisher
Orthodox Catechumen
America can try it if they want but really they need to establish a footballing culture in their own league in the same way that British teams have always been known as playing at a fast pace and very physically, Italians playing a strategic game with an airtight defence etc. etc.
But never mind. Its been quite a World Cup we've watched together and was an amazing final.
Im glad Argentina won and not some collective of migrants who grew up from infancy in France as welfare queens sucking on a Western Government's teat.... in order to be later lionised as "Our Greatest Strength"

A lot of normies I know are even asking "what is the Kalergi Plan?" after this final and after seeing the stark imagery of contrasts that they could no longer ignore.
I find it ironic how the USA has a much greater number of black people than W. Europe (and for a very long time), yet was never able to become a powerhouse all these decades.
Football grew in South America in the early 1900's when Argentina and Brazil were still set to become First World countries, and the European Great Powers dismissed the US as an afterthought. One cannot attribute the success of African players nowadays as simply them being more talented or gifted genetically (the ones in the French and English teams were still average compared to NBA or NFL pros). This is all a result of them being artificially given economic advantages, the best facilities and infrastructure, etc., all paid for by native European taxpayer funds. At least unlike a certain Jew in Ukraine, however, they're able to utilize those resources into success.

I wonder if these African migrant players would have the same level of success if they're funded by China instead, the only other world power at the present who can hypothetically throw massive resources in training and facilities. Either the Chinese, or those rich oil sheikhs in the Arabian peninsula. In all of the videos talking about why China sucks at football, everybody bashes China for trying to take the lazy shortcut of hiring foreigners and not cultivating homegrown Chinese talent. Yet nobody seems to point out the same trend going on in W. Europe.

I guess mass migration and ethnic replacement Isn't a cause of alarm to normies if it makes them entertained watching TV. Ironically, I wouldn't have minded European teams taking in foreigners for added skill, if not for the fact that they're importing entire cities' worth of these same kinds of foreigners within their borders.

You are correct about the Kalergi Plan. When I showed my mom the French team, she was shocked. As an American, if you are not on the internet finding the news they hide from us, you would still think France is like 98% White and just has a very small minority community from war refugees. Most Americans are completely unaware of the Yellow Vest protests or even the Energy Crisis protests.
Yeah, a part of how the mainstream media continues to have a hold of their deceptions is deliberate withholding of the truth from many people. But I could never even fathom just how much the average American is being kept in the dark. The way you describe these people, it's like they're still living in the 80s or 90s and think that things like anti-white racism or Hollywood and Washington being full of Satanists are straight out of a dystopian novel.

Maybe is that why a lot of normie white Americans dismiss "far-right" figures as if the latter belong in an asylum? They're like living in a reversed Truman Show, where they are completely sheltered and isolated from the outside world, still thinking that America's warmongering is a force for good. This reminds me of Dugin's daughter's remarks about US society in her last TV appearance: she straight up called Americans a "zombie society." Everybody is too self-absorbed to connect what's happening in the rest of the world to what's going on in America.
 

Northumber

Sparrow
Protestant
Maybe is that why a lot of normie white Americans dismiss "far-right" figures as if the latter belong in an asylum? They're like living in a reversed Truman Show, where they are completely sheltered and isolated from the outside world, still thinking that America's warmongering is a force for good.

The media is masterful at what it does.

Conservatives believe in American exceptionalism. If you ask a normie why they think America is exceptional they'll often point to freedom.

Both the concept of "exceptionalism" and "freedom" have been effectively weaponized against conservatives here. The media simultaneously plays each: it uses "exceptionalism" to make it seem horrible things couldn't possibly be perpetuated and "freedom" to nullify the criticism of the horrible things that have been normalized.
 

lonewolf1968

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Dude you were given a day off, stay home with your family and have a BBQ or wave your flag as the bus passes, don't do this. This is what I hate about football when people take it way too seriously. I've read there are two dead so far.




Cool celebration and everything but imagine if we gathered together to take down the Elites. As Roosh wrote in some article, that's what they fear the most.



Apparently there are 5 million people in the streets of Buenos Aires

 
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