Race riots 2020

Tiger Man

Woodpecker
I have a serious question about this and a few of the other times in which a black guy just "popped off" and died during an arrest. Often, it seems to happen while they are being restrained. And, I am wondering if it might be Sickle Cell. That disease afflicts black people at a much higher rate than any others. And restriction of the "neck area" can cause a Sickle Cell crisis that would be quickly fatal. I only mention it because I have seen so many of these videos and it always seems to be black guys that die for reasons that are unknown. Obviously the cop on his neck contributed. That's plain to see. But that wouldn't normally kill an otherwise healthy individual.

In any case, I'm sure the wall-to-wall coverage this will get in the US media won't serve to beat the drums of an upcoming race war. :rolleyes: Charles Manson would be proud.
 

La Águila Negra

Woodpecker
Cops around the world have in the past 3 months shown on what side of the fence they are on

Naive right wingers sometimes still believe in the old 'they are just doing it because they have to follow orders, in case of emergency the majority will shift allegiances to the people' adagium

How many of these videos have come out in the past couple of years.. And how many people have bad experiences with power tripping and patronising police offers

The cop bashing off and online is completely justified in my opinion
 

Kona

Crow
Gold Member
I have a serious question about this and a few of the other times in which a black guy just "popped off" and died during an arrest. Often, it seems to happen while they are being restrained. And, I am wondering if it might be Sickle Cell.
Yes. You are correct. Also, sometimes when the cops shoot black people the bullet so happens to hit a bunch of sickle cells that just go hag wild inside the body. The normal cells rapidly get sickled and the organs shut down.

Aloha!
 

2020Dude

Newbie
This horrible, and in the words of Ronnie Floyd "ungodly and inhumane"
The security cam of a nearby restaurant clearly captured the start of the 'arrest' the dude didn't resist at all, though he was seemingly drunk But very docile.

I don't care about race/ethnicity, those cops must end up jail.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Meh, at the end of the day it's clickbait for anyone who isn't in the jurisdiction of said officers and who will never meet them at any stage of their lives.

Hopefully if it turns out they were doing the knee-on-neck routine for no good reason then they will suffer serious consequences and the family of the victim will be compensated appropriately. More hopefully the outcome will be a public and signal to other cops that the knee-on-neck routine is an unacceptable risk for everyone involved unless there is no other reasonable option.

But it's also worth noting that tens of thousands of cops in the USA went to work last week, made arrests and didn't kill anyone in the process.

Don't let anyone catch you up in the hype.
 

Uzisuicide

Woodpecker
Gold Member
By this afternoon the incident will be Trump's fault. I don't know what goes through cop's minds. On what planet is that type of force acceptable? The cop with the knee on the guys neck is just done. He will die in prison. Not only has he killed a man that didn't have to die, his family is screwed, his fellow officers job just became that much harder, and race relations (right or wrong) have worsened overnight.
 

bonkers

Robin
Meh, at the end of the day it's clickbait for anyone who isn't in the jurisdiction of said officers and who will never meet them at any stage of their lives.
By that principle, so are essentially 95% of the topics / posts discussed on here

Hopefully if it turns out they were doing the knee-on-neck routine for no good reason then they will suffer serious consequences and the family of the victim will be compensated appropriately.
"if it turns out"....? I think there's pretty clear video evidence that that was the case...

More hopefully the outcome will be a public and signal to other cops that the knee-on-neck routine is an unacceptable risk for everyone involved unless there is no other reasonable option.
Agreed

But it's also worth noting that tens of thousands of cops in the USA went to work last week, made arrests and didn't kill anyone in the process.

Don't let anyone catch you up in the hype.
What a disgraceful comment.
Firstly, because, if anything, the fact that there is such clear damning video footage in this case is the reason it can't be defended. But that is rare.

How often must this happen where the police do this and there is no evidence and it essentially becomes "he says, she says" with the police getting off on a technicality or "internal investigation" that is swept under the carpet? The police in that video are brazen enough to think they can get away with it and do not seem worried for any potential consequences of their actions (ie death of the man nor the public backlash). It only hits the media when there is a death, but how often must this type of action by the police leave an individual with significant morbidity (e.g. paralysis) for the rest of their lives that we wouldn't even hear about?

Secondly, because it is this exact attitude from the silent majority general populace (who would not be targeted in this fashion) that enables the police to think that they can brazenly get away with it. They are the first to scream like a stuck pig if this type of action was directed at one of their clan but the first to dismiss it when it doesn't.
 

La Águila Negra

Woodpecker
By that principle, so are essentially 95% of the topics / posts discussed on here


"if it turns out"....? I think there's pretty clear video evidence that that was the case...


Agreed


What a disgraceful comment.
Firstly, because, if anything, the fact that there is such clear damning video footage in this case is the reason it can't be defended. But that is rare.

How often must this happen where the police do this and there is no evidence and it essentially becomes "he says, she says" with the police getting off on a technicality or "internal investigation" that is swept under the carpet? The police in that video are brazen enough to think they can get away with it and do not seem worried for any potential consequences of their actions (ie death of the man nor the public backlash). It only hits the media when there is a death, but how often must this type of action by the police leave an individual with significant morbidity (e.g. paralysis) for the rest of their lives that we wouldn't even hear about?

Secondly, because it is this exact attitude from the silent majority general populace (who would not be targeted in this fashion) that enables the police to think that they can brazenly get away with it. They are the first to scream like a stuck pig if this type of action was directed at one of their clan but the first to dismiss it when it doesn't.
The majority of the population won't ever have to deal with this kind of police violence /intimidation because they are not physically threatening

Notice how this guy is double the size of the officers. How short are those guys anyway, maybe the US police force needs to start thinking about a height and muscle mass requirement.

The officers sense instinctively that this man can easily overpower them so he gets restrained. If he wouldn't have been physically intimidating they would have left him alone. Have you ever seen a police officer putting a headlock on a 5'0 tall soccer mom? Or on a greying 40 year something that obviously spends his days in a cubicle?

It's usually also exactly that part of the population that condones and defends heavy handed police measures. Think entitled suburban moms, boomers and soyboys (unless the victims are minorities)
 

kel

Pelican
Increasingly, police are 5'0 tall soccer moms.

I'm over the cops. Neither narrative - that they're jackbooted thugs going on daily killing rampages, or that they're valiant freedom-fighters - really holds. On the one hand, we only see the worst of the worst and don't have the burden of context and having to make a decision in the moment. On the other hand, they're really just the enforcement wing of the bureaucratic elite. I don't feel comfortable around them, I don't feel safer for their presence.

We all know the US's future is Brazil/South Africa style private security, the sooner it comes the better I say.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
By that principle, so are essentially 95% of the topics / posts discussed on here


"if it turns out"....? I think there's pretty clear video evidence that that was the case...


Agreed


What a disgraceful comment.
Firstly, because, if anything, the fact that there is such clear damning video footage in this case is the reason it can't be defended. But that is rare.

How often must this happen where the police do this and there is no evidence and it essentially becomes "he says, she says" with the police getting off on a technicality or "internal investigation" that is swept under the carpet? The police in that video are brazen enough to think they can get away with it and do not seem worried for any potential consequences of their actions (ie death of the man nor the public backlash). It only hits the media when there is a death, but how often must this type of action by the police leave an individual with significant morbidity (e.g. paralysis) for the rest of their lives that we wouldn't even hear about?

Secondly, because it is this exact attitude from the silent majority general populace (who would not be targeted in this fashion) that enables the police to think that they can brazenly get away with it. They are the first to scream like a stuck pig if this type of action was directed at one of their clan but the first to dismiss it when it doesn't.
I think you need to try decaf.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
What just compensation can a father receive for the murder of his son? Taxpayers sending him money will somehow negate this killing?
I'm not sure what you're inferring is the proper course of action or outcome after this unpleasant mess.

Should the father be declaring vendetta against the Minneapolis PD?

Are you leaning towards a third option that involves a time machine?

What?
 
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