Race riots 2020

kazz

Kingfisher
^^ That was a woman. They are both trash by the looks of it.

After the Scramble for Africa, colonization and then subsequent release back to the countries natives, including Zimbabwe I believe. The English and other white European countries fucked Africa big time. They half assed colonized it, killing many African people while at the same time destroying their culture and all that they new, they then gave them back their countries and expected them to start with nothing as well as to now live like an industrialized country.
 
^^ That was a woman. They are both trash by the looks of it.

After the Scramble for Africa, colonization and then subsequent release back to the countries natives, including Zimbabwe I believe. The English and other white European countries fucked Africa big time. They half assed colonized it, killing many African people while at the same time destroying their culture and all that they new, they then gave them back their countries and expected them to start with nothing as well as to now live like an industrialized country.
That's an interesting perspective. How do you think it explains or "justifies" what we are seeing in the West today, if at all?
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

Owl
Gold Member
Tax laws are different all over the world, and they change often, so the specifics are not important, but the bigger point is you pay a fraction of what a wage slave does if you are self employed.
Fun fact: in Croatia, you have to pay a staggering $500 per month fee for the privilege of being self-employed, even if your profit is $0, and even if your revenue is $0; deductions are routinely combed through, overturned and subjected to steep fines for the most idiotic reasons imaginable, such as the safety sticker highlighting the location of your fire extinguisher being placed on the left rather than right side of the doorway.

So in normal countries like USA, this is a good strategy. In many other countries, especially "formerly" socialist countries, it's like asking for a rope to hang yourself with.

Offtopic, I know. Just wanted to vent.
 

kazz

Kingfisher
That's an interesting perspective. How do you think it explains or "justifies" what we are seeing in the West today, if at all?

I was not talking about whats happening in the USA. I was responding to the statement about Zimbabwe saying whites did not teach them about economics. The decolonization of Africa was not that long ago (1960). Europeans colonized most of Africa for the most part to take advantage of its natural resources. At the end of the war they could not afford or were not able to continue so they gave it back.
 
I was not talking about whats happening in the USA. I was responding to the statement about Zimbabwe saying whites did not teach them about economics. The decolonization of Africa was not that long ago (1960). Europeans colonized most of Africa for the most part to take advantage of its natural resources. At the end of the war they could not afford or were not able to continue so they gave it back.
I was speaking about the West in general, including Europe.
 
Yet, from my limited understanding and knowledge, there was really nothing in Africa, economically wise, before Europe first colonized Africa. Africans didn't even know what diamonds were nor did they ever built two-story high or higher building, nor did they built usable boats that could take them far.

You know what Congo people call their former Belgium master, that very same master (state) which brutally killed millions of those people? Uncle Belgian or brother. Those who lived under their rule had higher living standards than today. Congo had absolutely nothing before whites came, and could not maintain the leftover industry after Belgium decolonized the country. The ruling class in Congo, afterward, did everything to "un-Belgiumized" the country, aggravating the crisis. Congo was a brutal, savage place long before whites came. The first explorers into the deep Congo was utterly shocked by their primitive savagery. To say nothing short of any sort of structure resembling economics or trades beside warfare or the trading of human flesh.

I am less informed on other parts of Africa, but I'd assume the situation was largely similar in most of the regions.

Correct me if I am wrong on any count, or am ignorant of certain contexts.
 

LeoniusD

Kingfisher

Some countries were never colonized - besides - before colonization there was even less development. Almost all colonies cost European countries - except for India which balanced the scale due to diamonds. You simply cannot possibly play a Dindu over anything - crime participation, school performance, intergenerational wealth, performance of an entire country over decades. I mean - you can do that in the insane BLM ideology blaming others for decades of lack of prorgress. But the reality is that unless that country is ruled by a despotic backwards ruler, then there is no excuse. And while corruption is high in Africa, there are many good smart competent leaders. China was more backwards than many colonies in the 1960s. In some instances similar to Zimbabwe - agriculture collapsed instantly after having kicked out whites. That is why the Chinese are now operating the mines themselves importing their workers, because just paying for materials won't get them anywhere.

Whatever ... believe in the lies if you want to - it certainly feels better and you dindu nothing.
 

Parabola

Sparrow
^^ That was a woman. They are both trash by the looks of it.

After the Scramble for Africa, colonization and then subsequent release back to the countries natives, including Zimbabwe I believe. The English and other white European countries fucked Africa big time. They half assed colonized it, killing many African people while at the same time destroying their culture and all that they new, they then gave them back their countries and expected them to start with nothing as well as to now live like an industrialized country.
They expected people crying for independence to take some responsibility for the state of their own country? Good Lord, how unreasonable.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Again, the childish notion of freedom raises it's pitiful head.

It is the responsibility of the moral and the civil to subjugate the immoral and the uncivil, knowing all too well that in the absence of good men ruling rightfully with a firm hand that evil men will take their place and cause great suffering.

Our greatest sin in Africa was ceasing to enforce civility under European leadership.
 

Easy_C

Crow
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That's an interesting perspective. How do you think it explains or "justifies" what we are seeing in the West today, if at all?
It doesn't. The mistake made was trying to apply a Western model of governance to a region that largely has a tribal/clan instinct and doing so doesn't work.

Our greatest sin in Africa was ceasing to enforce civility under European leadership.
I would argue being involved at all, for dubious economic benefit, was a mistake.

 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
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I would argue being involved at all, for dubious economic benefit, was a mistake.
A vacuum of civilization is a vacuum of power. Only businessmen concern themselves with economic benefit. We are fast finding out that the White man's burden was placed on him by God and that we either reach out and control the world or it reaches back and strangles us in our own homes.
 

Easy_C

Crow
Having been to at least one of those developing world countries, there's very little risk that either those countries will "control the world" or that anyone controlling those countries will find doing so beneficial to trying to "control the world".

There's a reason why China has largely stayed out of Afghanistan and simply adopted a policy of sending weapons + trainers to make the Taliban more of a gadfly than they already are.
 

scotian

Crow
Gold Member
^^ That was a woman. They are both trash by the looks of it.

After the Scramble for Africa, colonization and then subsequent release back to the countries natives, including Zimbabwe I believe. The English and other white European countries fucked Africa big time. They half assed colonized it, killing many African people while at the same time destroying their culture and all that they new, they then gave them back their countries and expected them to start with nothing as well as to now live like an industrialized country.
When the Shona killed 30,000 Ndebele in Zimbabwe in the 1980s during an ethnic cleansing pogrom after independence, was that whitey’s fault too?
 

griffinmill

Kingfisher
Especially the chicago attack is brutal - if races were reversed, then this would be central news for months - her face would be called to be put on Mt. Rushmore. But since it´s just a normal brutal barbaric attack on a white woman in a park, then who cares. She probably deserved it to be beaten straight to the hospital by this gravely oppressed black man who just was raised in a fatherless household and all this oppression and white supremacy just got to him.
This is exactly the problem. When there is a white on black attack it makes front page news precisely because it's so rare, and what bothers me is that it's always framed as racial. When it's reversed it's never presumed to be racial and slips down the memory hole immediately. So there's no consistency. Just imagine a white guy going into a dept store in a predominantly black neighbourhood and in an unprovoked attack repeatedly punching a much smaller black man who is on the ground and saying "I'm sorry please stop". Could you even imagine such a thing happening?
 
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