Race riots 2020

I don't want to dismiss valid concerns, but consider the perspective of what the actual crime rate is. UK has this data available:

Wikipedia - UK Crime Stats

For the United States, which my last dive into these statistics shows was even safer if I recall....

Wikipedia - USA Crime Stats

The violent crime rates (which include assault without injury) are at rates of xx out of 100,000. Many of these rates have improved in the last decade. ***I personally consider that somewhat suspect (ie...the UK grooming gangs).*** That said, I've lived in big cities in the past (about half my life), and with a minuscule amount of self preservation and common sense have avoided any serious injury. In my almost 40 years, I've had one reportable vandalism offense to a vehicle, and one tire slashing...both random. The police even caught the vandalism and I received restitution. This was in a hood where the occasional gunshot would be heard.

So, again, not to say that foreigners wouldn't possibly be greater targets and we might see a massive increase in crime should world systems fall apart but I simply do not see a reason to be truly terrified of a random encounter. Especially when there is a systematic oppression of your views from a legal standpoint along with the same increase in crime going on in your own country. A little time in country settling into a routine and being known as a good neighbor does have an impact. Especially if you can get in an area with folks that hold similar beliefs.

Personally, I think these riots will get much worse in developed nations being "enriched". Especially in the US given their use as a political tool. Given the cultural decay here has set, the riots are basically my impetus to look elsewhere around the world. I think a homogeneous culture will be insulated somewhat.
 
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If you have faith in God you should never be truly terrified of anything. There's an old middle east saying, "Trust in God, but tie your camel". All im saying is Europe will not be safer then America in the future based off of what Ive seen. (unless a massive amount of people wake up). So the argument that one can simply immigrate there and blend in seems to me personally to be , naive. At the end of the day do what you think is right, just don't say you weren't warned.Again like I first mentioned how many people here can and will be able to move to an area where "folks hold a similar belief". Honestly its not a problem for me personally. I Just think it shouldn't be suggested as an alternative if it's not realistic for most.
 

JohnKreese

Pelican
You have some valid points, but as was noted in the Trump thread, are you going to move to Europe to hide or are you going there to fight to retain some specific part of European Christendom?

Personally if my location sunk into the sea and I had to choose a place to move to I wouldn't be choosing a location based on some kind of conservative tropes where I cashed in on the suffering the locals went through during the Soviet era (Poland or whatever). The hallmark of the cowardly White this last century has been to run wherever the grass is greener.

Personally being majority German I would move to Germany, no matter how pozzed it is right now, and I would fight to regain my place there.

Trading national genetic ethnicity for "European" is globalism 1.0
Leonard, I generally agree with your sentiment if not most of the exact things you're writing here.

At this point, it seems as though we're talking about two different things:

1. The fight for America
2. The fight for European Christendom

To me, the second is infinitely more important than the first, both for (obvious) spirituality reasons as well as for personal preference. I would feel much better making a stand with St. Stephen's Basillica or St. Sava Cathedral looming in the background (theoretically or figuratively) as opposed to Bob's Big Boy 14th Street Charismatic Primitive Progressive Luther-Metho Shrine. Sure, these countries aren't the conservative Catholic or Orthodox strongholds that they used to be or that they are fantasized to be today but there is at least the symbolism, the icons, etc. that are few and far between in America today.

Ultimately, I won't lie and say that being in such environments is the only reason why I am outside of the U.S. but what would you say to the man who chooses to leave his country of origin because doing so might positively affect his spiritual life and development (for any number of reasons)?
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
I lolled at Bob's Big Boy 14th Street Charismatic Primitive Progressive Luther-Metho Shrine. Let's hope they can put aside their schisms with Bob's Big Boy 14th Street Charismatic neo-Primitive Progressive Luther-Metho Shrine so that 14th street can once again know peace.

I agree with you, absolutely. Any man of European descent no matter where he lives is perfectly within his rights to return to his homeland and defend it if he feels that is the best use of his will. But make no mistake, he should be returning to the land of his ancestors if at all possible. Not whichever European nation ticks the most trad boxes. It is the height of arrogance for American "conservatives" (who are now conserving 90's POZ) to mob Poland when in all likelihood they don't have the slightest concept of what conserving Poland even means. There are Americans with one foot out the door who are still defending free markets and the right of the social media giants to control what amounts to the new public square with an iron fist. They literally claim they want to enrich EE with their "protestant work ethics", doubtless on the premise that they are going to teach the poor Poles how to do conservatism properly. Then one day when a Polka gets lippy with her man and cops a slap, along will come Captain West to save a ho and fight for the conservative values of women's equality or the non aggression principle or whatever garbage he's dragged across the Atlantic.

The reality is that it's a big enough stretch for a genetic German to return to Germany having never lived there. It's probably BETTER for him to return to a somewhat pozzed nation rather than a former soviet country because at least he's going to be fighting the poz in the pozzed nation rather than unwittingly bringing it with him as he would if fled to Poland instead, much like a valiant explorer not realizing the natives he thinks he's enriching will actually be killed en-masse by the diseases he brought with him. Do these guys really think the Poles want them there that bad? Sure, they'll find a few polaks that still worship Uncle Sam and make welcoming noises. But do the majority of the Polish men want more foreign men in their lands? Do you think they care that those foreigners don't like gays either? Fuck no. They don't want foreigners there and they're right to feel that way. Poland is for Poles. It's a joke to treat it like a camping ground for every rootless White civnat gypsy that wants to dodge the poz rather than fight it where they came from, or at least fight it in the lands of their ancestors.

Decide where home is and defend it. Home is either where you are or where your ancestors came from. It's not where you feel like it would be convenient for a generation before you hit the road again. We all ought to know how much (((people like that))) are loved the world over.
 
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DanielH

Robin
Personally, I think these riots will get much worse in developed nations being "enriched". Especially in the US given their use as a political tool. Given the cultural decay here has set, the riots are basically my impetus to look elsewhere around the world. I think a homogeneous culture will be insulated somewhat.
Without the US there's no reason for large parts of the world not to go to war. Sure the US will have worse civil violence, but what's stopping Russia from steamrolling Eastern Europe?
 
Good luck trying to appease the marxists - pretty much everything is white supremacism, even teaching the history of the people of the country created by the people. Meritocracy or even self-reliance is also white supremacy. The other list is even more insane - essentially even being on time, being Christian, saying that hard work and study results in prosperity - that is also white supremacy. Rule of law, property rights, protestant work ethic - that also white supremacy. To be honest based on that list - pretty all sane people in the world are white supremacists except for some insane marxists.

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JohnKreese

Pelican
Without the US there's no reason for large parts of the world not to go to war. Sure the US will have worse civil violence, but what's stopping Russia from steamrolling Eastern Europe?
And doing what? Genociding everyone in the region? The whole time this whole movement to Orthodox Christianity, emphasis on the family, free(er) market, etc. was just a farce to lull the world into sleep for when they dominate the region and usher in USSR2.0?

Let's just say that IS the play, who has it worse?

A. Thought criminal in Kamala-in-Chief's America? Smaller area, denser population?
B. Regular schmo in new, heterogenous USSR2.0? Huge area, spread out population?

That's probably over-simplifying things a bit, but I really am interested in potential trade-offs in this somewhat ridiculous hypothetical.
 

DanielH

Robin
And doing what? Genociding everyone in the region? The whole time this whole movement to Orthodox Christianity, emphasis on the family, free(er) market, etc. was just a farce to lull the world into sleep for when they dominate the region and usher in USSR2.0?

Let's just say that IS the play, who has it worse?

A. Thought criminal in Kamala-in-Chief's America? Smaller area, denser population?
B. Regular schmo in new, heterogenous USSR2.0? Huge area, spread out population?

That's probably over-simplifying things a bit, but I really am interested in potential trade-offs in this somewhat ridiculous hypothetical.
I'm not saying Russia would, but it could. Like it's done with Ukraine. There's a number of different regional conflicts that could pop off with a decapitated NATO, and being a foreign American isn't going to be fun when there's no consulate for you to run to. Also consider the EU potentially collapsing soon.
 

budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member
Probably a home made pipe bomb or a couple of very heavy pieces of customer firecrackers bundled together

From analyzing the video, it looks like a young kid. Most likely a teenager. He was giddy about it when he jumped up and down in excitement over the explosion before he took off running.

Another video of the loud explosion from a different angle.

 
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Ironside

Robin
Leonard, I generally agree with your sentiment if not most of the exact things you're writing here.

At this point, it seems as though we're talking about two different things:

1. The fight for America
2. The fight for European Christendom

To me, the second is infinitely more important than the first, both for (obvious) spirituality reasons as well as for personal preference. I would feel much better making a stand with St. Stephen's Basillica or St. Sava Cathedral looming in the background (theoretically or figuratively) as opposed to Bob's Big Boy 14th Street Charismatic Primitive Progressive Luther-Metho Shrine. Sure, these countries aren't the conservative Catholic or Orthodox strongholds that they used to be or that they are fantasized to be today but there is at least the symbolism, the icons, etc. that are few and far between in America today.

Ultimately, I won't lie and say that being in such environments is the only reason why I am outside of the U.S. but what would you say to the man who chooses to leave his country of origin because doing so might positively affect his spiritual life and development (for any number of reasons)?
And now you see why the destruction of architecture and environment was so widespread - it makes it so people don't see it as worth it to defend the place.
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You're still stuck in the conservative mindset of 'defending' a tiny and shrinking perimeter of things you believe are worthwhile, rather than wanting to create something new.
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I'd rather stand and fight over Bob's Big Boy 14th Street Charismatic Primitive Progressive Luther-Metho Shrine so that afterwards it could be torn down and a St. Sava Cathedral be built in its place afterwards.
 
Without the US there's no reason for large parts of the world not to go to war. Sure the US will have worse civil violence, but what's stopping Russia from steamrolling Eastern Europe?
I think they could given their (somewhat) recent actions in Georgia and Ukraine. However, Russia is also content to engage in cyber warfare a la the Petya virus and their economy is based off exporting oil. Large scale war with Russia is a possibility but I personally believe they would target strategic geographic areas and try to keep economic damage to a minimum.

From the basis of staying safe from race riots there really is no sense in going to Europe. Our riots popped off in a state/city known for Somali refugees. Europe is just as heavily invaded. As mentioned before, I think most systems in the US (and Europe) are corrupted; I can't see a means for literally overthrowing traitorous governments, schools (of all levels), tech (a global threat), banking, many Protestant and catholic churches, and corporations. That war has been lost to be honest. I may be wrong but many people advocating for residency and citizenship based on ethnic descent may be misguided (at least in some examples). The most recent immigrant background I have (a little before 1900) was Irish. However, to claim Irish ancestry I would have to show that someone in my family (up to a grandparent usually) MAINTAINED citizenship in that country. I think a lot of European countries work that way but I could be wrong.

So to stay safe from the coming race riot storms, my goal is secondary citizenship in Latin America. Its partially unique to my circumstance and I think might warrant a separate thread since a lot of good Lat Am info seemed to go when the travel section was cut. Point is, it is an ethnically homogeneous area and has been the focus of my personal travels. Beyond that I just hope China keeps to tea and leaves the region alone (relatively), and that large regions of SA and Lat Am don't similarly devolve into socialism or a narco state.
 
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infowarrior1

Ostrich
Reality doesn't necessarily either map entirely on race or ideology. But involves both. To exclude the complex interactions of one with the other is to forget about the multi-dimensional nature of reality:

The ones with the most disorder are the whitest cities in America. Pantifa doing their work on the so called behalf of minorities. Now if it is just about race it wouldn't fit. But when one includes ideology,organization and the spiritual state of Man then it makes far more sense.

It appears that relatively more Godly non-whites in less White Cities appear to be more well behaved on this Civil Strife front. Even as they have their own problems and criminal organizations. Since Antifa is well organized:

It still speaks of the greater organization of Europeans in General thereby to project violence on this large scale. Certain Wignats who believe that it would be all hunky dory if America was all White. Fail to take into account that Antifa was overwhelmingly White and responsible for much of the Damage.

Nothing is stopping Godless Whites from doing said damage in the absence of Minorities. However much of the Democrat vote would be undercut in the absence of the immigration that America has.

Which at least Trump is cutting down on.

Its better that entire families of illegals get deported with them so they get to be reunited with their families.
 
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DanielH

Robin
Reality doesn't necessarily either map entirely on race or ideology. But involves both. To exclude the complex interactions of one with the other is to forget about the multi-dimensional nature of reality:

The ones with the most disorder are the whitest cities in America. Pantifa doing their work on their so called behalf of minorities. Now if it is just about race it wouldn't fit. But when one includes ideology,organization and the spiritual state of Man then it makes far more sense.

It appears that relatively more Godly non-whites in less White Cities appear to be more well behaved on this Civil Strife front. Even as they have their own problems and criminal organizations.
Right, I was just talking about this with someone I know. The worst cities in the past week or so have been Portland, Seattle, and Austin. They're mostly white, but the whites are the lowest quality, most progressive, least God-fearing whites in the country.
 
Right, I was just talking about this with someone I know. The worst cities in the past week or so have been Portland, Seattle, and Austin. They're mostly white, but the whites are the lowest quality, most progressive, least God-fearing whites in the country.
You have to realize that the majority of whites are not on the left. They would have voted for Trump or for even Buchanan if he ran today with a far more radical anti-immigration platform. However the left is centered in some areas and has all the power, is dominant in academia, media, entertainment and corporations. Especially the fellow whites control as one bloc media, entertainment and large sections of politics. They also are counted in the white stats and the behavior is highly different from christians.

That is also why Trump may even win a second time, because all of this turned many centrist whites - even leftists - more to the right. But it won't matter when there are sufficiently enough supporters for the left, on top of the other ethnicities who vote far more far left while being personally more conservative, it's enough to implement all the marxist changes they want.
 
If Poland allows (((Anne Applebaum))) to live there, they will allow other americans.

It's also not that I don't think americans or others can emigrate, it's that I think people misunderstand what emigration or "fleeing" actually means.

Most people seem to think it's merely booking an AirBnB in Krakow or Manila, then chilling out for 10-20 years with your virgin waifu, while everyone wants to be friends with the cool foreigner or maybe that's my assumption about wannabe expats?

What about all the traditions you have to relearn? Christmas, done way different, family not there with you. What about children songs or the sweets from your childhood or a certain dialect you'll never hear again or the particular way that rain falls in Autumn and so on. Yes, I believe you can do it, while you're young. The older you get, and we're talking 30s and 40s already, roots will have grown in your heart and mind. Some people seem to be able to keep on living like playboys into their 40s and even 50s, most can't. I believe country hopping is a similar thing. It just becomes tiring at some point.

I personally do not want to discourage travelling, I think that will be necessary to stay sane in the coming decades. It will also be different because movement becomes restricted. Might go back to being something that could actually make you a better, more interesting person again.

As for the US or other large countries like France or even Germany, there you have the possibility of moving to exactly the kind of locale you want. Not so if you're dutch or even british.

By the way, Varg Vikernes, being a weird heathen though he is, does show the way to successful expatriation. Marry local, do not concern yourself with politics, but with values.
 

Uprising

Woodpecker
The ones with the most disorder are the whitest cities in America. Pantifa doing their work on the so called behalf of minorities. Now if it is just about race it wouldn't fit. But when one includes ideology,organization and the spiritual state of Man then it makes far more sense.

It appears that relatively more Godly non-whites in less White Cities appear to be more well behaved on this Civil Strife front. Even as they have their own problems and criminal organizations. Since Antifa is well organized:

It still speaks of the greater organization of Europeans in General thereby to project violence on this large scale. Certain Wignats who believe that it would be all hunky dory if America was all White. Fail to take into account that Antifa was overwhelmingly White and responsible for much of the Damage.

Nothing is stopping Godless Whites from doing said damage in the absence of Minorities.
However much of the Democrat vote would be undercut in the absence of the immigration that America has.


This post is hilarious, the IRT's would be proud. So many things wrong with that post. I especially like the "nothing is stopping Godless whites from doing said damage in the absence of minorities". You're right, we better import some more of those conservative Africans so they can show America how a civilization is really run.

To say that the cities with the most disorder are white ones is laughable. Contrast Seattle or Portland with Chiraq, or Memphis, or St Louis. It doesn't compare and it's not even close. All the major hotspots in America for gun homicides are in black strongholds. And if not black strongholds than some Latino strongholds out in the California area. The gangs are all a black or Latino problem as well. And for the the few white or mostly white gangs that exist here in America, such as the biker gangs, their homocide and violent crime rates pale in comparison to the blacks. Nor do those biker gangs seem to take up a whole section of a city and turn it into a defacto no go zone for anybody not affiliated with the gang.

And it's for this reason, with the most violent shitholes in America being of mostly black demographics (but Latinos have their hotspots as well), that even the most conservative Indian, even the most red pilled Asian man, hell even the most God fearing white American conservative, if given the choice, would move to the Godless white cities with Antifa strongholds than to move in with the red pilled blacks down in Memphis.

And one last thing:

It appears that relatively more Godly non-whites in less White Cities appear to be more well behaved on this Civil Strife front.
See, here come those false dichotomies again to prove his point that it's the whites that are the problem. Comparing the white Anitfas versus the church going black folks. Because that's a fair comparison. This is rich. Real rich.

Ok. Now do a more apt comparison between the white Antifas and the Black BLM thugs in terms of looting, destruction and black on white violence versus white on black violence that has gone on during all of these Race Riots. Plenty of videos during the Race Riots showing 10+ blacks ganging up and beating the ever living hell out of 1 single white person. You have some videos during the Race Riots of 10+ whites ganging up and beating the ever living hell out of 1 single black person?

I'll wait.
 
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budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member
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So many things wrong with that post. I especially like the "nothing is stopping Godless whites from doing said damage in the absence of minorities". You're right, we better import some more of those conservative Africans so they can show America how a civilization is really run.
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Ok. Now do a comparison between the white Antifas and the Black BLM...
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To say that the cities with the most disorder are white ones is laughable.
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I have to disagree with this post.

I'm honestly curious. Did you read and research the BLM's manifesto and its founders? What's BLM's true ideological goal and its rooted philosophy? Who is funding BLM? Who is the BLM founder's mentor? If BLM is really for black community, why isn't the money they're receiving going toward to helping reduce black-on-black crimes instead of paying Antifa/BLM agitators for riot-protest demonstrations across the country?

BLM is using blacks as "useful idiots" to target, assault and harass white and any other non-black race for no reason other than being encouraged by the MSM, Democrats, etc. by preying on their emotions and victimhood status. They are using blacks to build up strong hatred and anger.




https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...omestic-terrorist-who-worked-with-bill-ayers/

 
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