The normal, civil left you're talking about is perfectly fine with a number of policies that are an abomination in God's eyes, and are miles left on social issues than the average American a couple decades ago. America is the new Babylon and there is nothing enviable about “moderate” or “civil” Babylonians.I think it's good to understand there are no "left liberals" anymore, only disaffected ones. The best example of other disaffected left liberals in the wild are Tim Pool, Joe Rogan, Michael Tracey, Bret Weinstein. These folks are not the enemy, they may disagree on certain points (the Religion stuff specifically), but they are essentially allies in preserving the union and preserving our right to free speech. Rather than dividing our ranks, we should aim to expand the number of reasonable human beings who are not going to bow to the poz. The biggest thing at stake right now is the union and our freedoms. We can find agreement with the dissident left on those issues, even if there are other issues we may disagree with in the future. I am not sure how this translates to real life friendships and relationships, I tend not to hang out with shitlibs lol.