Race riots 2020

Elipe

Pelican
For those ragging on surfdog, if the BLM mob marched up your street, came up to your house and demanded you do their black power fist-in-the-air to show solidarity with their movement... "or else", would you do it?

How about putting one of their signs in your yard? Maybe get down and take knee too. Kneeling is good. Or better yet, lie down on the ground like that cop in the news
I don't know, FBI. What would you do in that situation? I'm guessing not arresting people for disturbing the peace.
 

Renzy

Pelican
You're all talking about two very different things. One instance of putting on their uniform and blending in is to score or aid in a strategic victory. The other instance is submission and turning on your side in hope you won't ever get eaten.

If antifa confronted me with my family and there was no other escape but to submit, would I? For the sake of my family, maybe. I'm a dumb, prideful male though so that wouldn't be easy for me to do and there would be hell to pay afterward to anyone that made me do it.

You're right we're speaking about two different things. In the coming years, I think people are going to be finding out just how much they're willing to submit, and they're probably not going to like the answer very much. You will go along in order to not make waves so that you don't get beat up by the mob, you don't get fired, you don't get passed over, you do get that promotion, etc. Just parrot their woke talking points, raise your fist, do what they demand, even to the point of debasing yourself. It might feel humiliating while they denigrate you, but hey, you want to keep your job right? You like being able to pay your mortgage right?

As far as answering my own question about the mob, I'd likely feel the same way as you. For the sake of my family, maybe. Let's say you saw that one of your neighbors did as they asked. He got down and kneeled, then lied down while they chanted and cheered. You watched as they kneeled on his neck while they mocked and jeered at him... but eventually they moved on. Unlike how it played out with your other neighbor, whose family watched from the bay window as their father got beaten senseless on the front lawn because he wouldn't kneel and wouldn't lie down. You see he just refused "to show solidarity" when it came stopping racism. My hypothetical scenario may sound contrived, but after watching all the "protests", the riots, people being pulled out of their cars and assaulted, I don't think it's as far fetched as some on here would like to believe.
 

Renzy

Pelican

skullmask

Woodpecker
Renzy asks some good questions and a lot of guys here are talking past each other. Does anyone here, including asdf, "own a blm shirt" as he suggests "Every Patriot should own"? You can avoid "wearing a target" without wearing a different kind of target.

Agreed, don't wear the enemy uniform or even your own side's uniform. Go grey man and be as non-descript as possible. You wanna infiltrate the commie scum mob in order to undermine them from within? You know, they do illegal stuff right? You will probably be expected to throw molotovs and mix it up with the cops to prove yourself to them. You ready to do that and face possible jail time? Just remember that when your mugshot goes on the net and your dox is up there for all to see, you are gonna end up on someone's list, you better hope they believe you when you say you were just pretending to be commie scum. You also better hope the commie scum doesn't come after you once your dox is out there and they know you were a "nazi" spy.

I'd advise against trying to spy on or infiltrate antifa unless you have some intel background and know what you're doing. It's not as simple as just putting a shirt on and mouthing the right words, and you risk exposing yourself to some serious harm if you mess up. Frankly, I wouldn't bother with the shit-lib cities. Let them reap what they sowed, and burn.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
I haven't seen a single blonde antifa yet.

Will the swarthies just get over their inferiority complex thanks.


The outlier of a pretty protester.

Question then becomes.
Is it mere deluded entitlement on her part?
Was it poor parenting?
Is she so easily misled that once off to college, she fell in with a certain crowd just to fit in?
Is she that easily brainwashed by college propaganda...?



@TellYourSonThis
Jun 12
This of course is the burden of the patriarch. To ensure discipline, order and justice through the benevolent assertiveness of a deeper wisdom. Do not create monsters out of those you are charged to protect, by being unwilling to hold them to account for their misdeeds.

@TellYourSonThis
Oct 9, 2019
You're not a patriarch if you simply get married and have children. Many many pathetic men have achieved these things. To be a patriarch is to truly lead, rule & plan for your family, to ensure their safety, acquire capital, and impose & uphold order. A patriarch has authority.
 

FullThrottleTX

Woodpecker
Not what people are suggesting.

Being dressed in black screaming angry things is a good way to blend in with a crowd like that as you work your way to the outskirts, Then you remove the black outer shirt and egress.

If you're in a position where you don't have a choice but to engage with the angry mob, you better stand up for yourself. That's very cowardly to put your fist up and cow tail to BLM just to fit in. The situation I'm talking about is a bunch of white girls yelling in your face about your privilege, not a hoard of angry black gangbangers (you should definitely get away from that).

Most of us though are not going to encounter a mob unless we're going to look for one (this could change).

My problem with the Proud Boys and other armed groups engaging with Antifa is: 1) We should give the fucking President a chance to get reelected and do something about the threat. 2) They're being used by the mainstream media as optics. In the election timeframe, not good. Armed right wing groups seeking out protesters are hurting more than helping. 3) Don't get a broken wrist or a damaged eardrum or lose vision in a knockout just to prove your right wing identity. That's stupid. You could add millions of dollars in economic value over your lifetime, versus Antifa dweebs who live in their parents basements and basically have negative economic drain on society. Don't make stupid sacrifices just to satisfy identity needs. They have nothing to lose, you're not in that position. 4) People overestimate how effective they are in defending themselves against physical threats of violence. Even Joe Rogan, whose trained in several Martial Arts, says to avoid physical confrontations.

This all being said,
At some point we're going to need to stand up and push back against this. It's not just going away. You're not going to be successful for long trying to hide in a bunker in Montana. Not realistic for most people. Trying to "blend in" when they're trying to impose reparations and take away your civil liberties, that's just cowardly in my opinion.
 

Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member

Easy_C

Peacock
If you're in a position where you don't have a choice but to engage with the angry mob, you better stand up for yourself. That's very cowardly to put your fist up and cow tail to BLM just to fit in. The situation I'm talking about is a bunch of white girls yelling in your face about your privilege, not a hoard of angry black gangbangers (you should definitely get away from that).

What is your background in the area and do you have any experience or training in this area?

The entire point is to avoid engaging actively. Keep in mind these protests tend to be full of bored college leftists, educators, furloughed government employees, and the like who won't be directly involved beyond having seen some chat group say "Protest here, show up!". Based on what I'm hearing from people offline who have seen the protests there's ample opportunity to move among these useful idiots as they mill around chanting slogans. The size of the group can number in the hundreds or thousands so there's no way in hell they know every single person involved.


Which is the entire point. Like any terrorist group they need there to be a huge number of feckless, credulous sign holders to mask the actual operatives. Talibanis operated the same way.

If you think that's stupid at least don't be running around decked out in MAGA and thin blue line gear with American flags everywhere. At least something like that can buy a few seconds before people realize you're not on their tream and start shooting at you.
 
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Athanasius

Pelican
Was it poor parenting?

This explains most of it. You start noticing patterns after directly seeing several generations of children grow up on this planet. Homes provide children with subversive entertainment to watch and public schools to attend, both of which provide a harmonious morality and worldview. It's even more difficult now with that great onramp to globohomo--pornography-- being so easily accessible.

Parents think a safe, nurturing, and "nice" environment at home is sufficient, and sometimes the kids grow up normal, but in most families of 3-6 kids I've seen there's at least one who goes over to the dark side. This is where the left's recruits come from-- it's not like they are having a lot of kids. There are two common themes: (1) A distant or faithless father who fails to teach his kids the faith through apologetics and polemics. (2) A child who is not made to work doing chores and in other ways that can help the family economy. Instead they become the idle hands that are the devil's workshop.
 
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FullThrottleTX

Woodpecker
Which is the entire point. Like any terrorist group they need there to be a huge number of feckless, credulous sign holders to mask the actual operatives. Talibanis operated the same way.

It's important not to compare Antifa to a "terrorist group". The term "terrorism" is a political battle axe used by state actors to define certain groups they don't like as below the letter of the law. Basically, it allows the government to take away due process. I just oppose the designation completely, though it's been useful in removing funding sources. If a crime has been committed, the legal system should be sufficient to handle it.

If someone gets in your face, you should stand up for yourself if you can.
It's happened. People confronted at restaurants, for example. Ideally, I'd get out of there as soon as possible but if you can't get out of there, you should at least not capitulate to their demands. Because you're causing greater harm being used as a propaganda piece to support the movement.

If your employer asks you to confess your white privilege, you should not capitulate. I've already done this to a certain extent. There is going to be a shitstorm of lawsuits against employers at some point, especially if Trump gets his way in banning critical race theory. If you're in a position to hire a lawyer, you should. Assuming you can find one that's not cucked.

If friends and family are tricked into drinking the kool aid, you should convince them otherwise.

That's the bare minimum you should do right now.
It's not hard. The first situation of being confronted by protesters is uncommon. Obviously, don't get killed. Get out of there if you can.
 

FullThrottleTX

Woodpecker
If you think that's stupid at least don't be running around decked out in MAGA and thin blue line gear with American flags everywhere. At least something like that can buy a few seconds before people realize you're not on their tream and start shooting at you.

I think it's always been dangerous to run around decked out in MAGA, except maybe in Texas (lol). If you're in NYC, that's a good way to get killed.

Texas vs. the Coasts, the difference in how people treat each other is so stark, no wonder we were our own country back in the day. Be it politics or stupid face masks.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
Big if true. Prepare accordingly. Sh*t is about to hit the fan.

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