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They do that stuff because they know they can get away with it. Most Trump supporters are simply not inclined to be the first to use violence

Show a Trump flag at a BLM rally though and you'll get mobbed faster than you can say I am sorry

Trump supporters have the moral high ground

The problem is the moral high ground only matters in a civilized society. We are at the tipping point of no longer being a civilized society. Within the next 10 years the tipping point will be breached, due to liberal policies of destroying the family, career women, open borders, legal immigration, and no one in DC has any plans to stop any of it.

I think we passed a true Rubicon this weekend. Between the NFL doing their nonstop BLM support and NFL viewership dropping like a rock + two police ambushed in LA and the hospital they were taken too was under attack + the Lancaster situation + Antifa starting forest fires. I believe the battle lines are drawn and most of the men on the right realize there is no compromise with the leftists.

I shudder to think how bad things will be by 2025 when the Democrats are fully in charge of the USA top to bottom. I long supported the advice to move to a rural area and hunker down. But with this situation of Antifa starting forest fires it appears no place will be untouched and moving to the rural area may not even buy you and extra week.
 

budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member
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The problem is the moral high ground only matters in a civilized society. We are at the tipping point of no longer being a civilized society. Within the next 10 years the tipping point will be breached, due to liberal policies of destroying the family, career women, open borders, legal immigration, and no one in DC has any plans to stop any of it.

I think we passed a true Rubicon this weekend. Between the NFL doing their nonstop BLM support and NFL viewership dropping like a rock + two police ambushed in LA and the hospital they were taken too was under attack + the Lancaster situation + Antifa starting forest fires. I believe the battle lines are drawn and most of the men on the right realize there is no compromise with the leftists.

I shudder to think how bad things will be by 2025 when the Democrats are fully in charge of the USA top to bottom. I long supported the advice to move to a rural area and hunker down. But with this situation of Antifa starting forest fires it appears no place will be untouched and moving to the rural area may not even buy you and extra week.

'Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far'

I think most on the Right know what's happening. Even Trump has mentioned that the country is under attack from Marxists. But for now violently attacking provocateurs doesn't serve them in any sense

If the point of no return has already been passed is something we'll know in a couple of months

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Also wasn't the situation in LA whipped up a bit by the media (looking for escalation?)?From what I understand it was a loser thug that shot two police officers, he wasn't part of the antifa/BLM radicals. And then the headlines of a 'mob storming the hospital'. In that particular video there were two Black dudes that wanted to enter the hospital, a security lady said no and then they basically responded 'you are a pig, f cops, we're leaving'
 
'Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far'

I think most on the Right know what's happening. Even Trump has mentioned that the country is under attack from Marxists. But for now violently attacking provocateurs doesn't serve them in any sense

If the point of no return has already been passed is something we'll know in a couple of months

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Also wasn't the situation in LA whipped up a bit by the media (looking for escalation?)?From what I understand it was a loser thug that shot two police officers, he wasn't part of the antifa/BLM radicals. And then the headlines of a 'mob storming the hospital'. In that particular video there were two Black dudes that wanted to enter the hospital, a security lady said no and then they basically responded 'you are a pig, f cops, we're leaving'

"Loser thug" is exactly who Antifa looks for. Drugged out losers, often with criminal records, so they have nothing to lose and no fear of going back to jail. Is there an official roster for Antifa foot soldiers? I would highly doubt it. So whether he was officially associated with them or not will be impossible to determine.
 
"Loser thug" is exactly who Antifa looks for. Drugged out losers, often with criminal records, so they have nothing to lose and no fear of going back to jail. Is there an official roster for Antifa foot soldiers? I would highly doubt it. So whether he was officially associated with them or not will be impossible to determine.

Using that logic you can use any anti-police índicent of violence as antifa/BLM violence

The fact that this incident, like George Floyd's death, is being given so much attention makes me suspicious. Apparantly it suits the narrative.
 
Using that logic you can use any anti-police índicent of violence as antifa/BLM violence

The fact that this incident, like George Floyd's death, is being given so much attention makes me suspicious. Apparantly it suits the narrative.

I'm okay with assigning any anti-police violence to Antifa/BLM. They had a chance to be civil and have peaceful talks but instead they decided to show the world what violent scumbags they are. So if there ends up being some violence against police that is actually not their direct fault and they still get blamed for it, that is fine by me at this point in time.

The incident is getting so much attention because some guy just walked up to a police car with two police sitting in it an opened fire. This is a rare event and the last time it happened in NYC it was a huge news event as well.
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

Kingfisher
Gold Member
In the past 3 days it went from...

1) There are rumors but no proof of Antifa starting forest fires.
2) There is now evidence of Antifa starting forest fires.
3) There are now multiple arrest of Antifa for starting forest fires.
4) Those arrested for starting forest fires are being released by the Soros D.A. and are now starting more forest fires.


Is there any evidence that this Domingo Lopez character or anyone else arrested for setting wildfires has any connection to BLAMTIFA? Not doubting it, just wondering if there's anything concrete yet.
 
Is there any evidence that this Domingo Lopez character or anyone else arrested for setting wildfires has any connection to BLAMTIFA? Not doubting it, just wondering if there's anything concrete yet.

BLM and Antifa don't have official rosters and membership numbers. Sure they have organizers, but their foot soldiers are just random people recruited to show up and cause problems.

Is it possible this crazy person has no ideological connections to either BLM or Antifa? I am sure there is a small possibility there. But it is a very low possibility. Most likely this person hangs out with/does drugs with/parties with Antifa members and was an a minimum inspired to do this and even possibly encouraged or directed to do this.

We of course will never know because no one in DC will investigate Antifa.
 

kazz

Kingfisher
Does anyone one here know much about American Indian history? I wonder how it was before the land was colonized and importantly the situation came about where land could be owned, things were made bought and sold rather than the land is for all.

Please dont comment if you are not smart or mature enough to see where im coming from with this.

This is how it is now, its white mans way weather you like it or not. However I want to know and cant seem to find a definitive answer were indigenous people violent when they were living with the land and money, capitalism did not exist.
 

Papaya

Crow
Gold Member
Its really important to understand the why

I wrote about this in the Big Picture Analysis thread


BLM and Antifa don't have official rosters and membership numbers. Sure they have organizers, but their foot soldiers are just random people recruited to show up and cause problems.

Is it possible this crazy person has no ideological connections to either BLM or Antifa? I am sure there is a small possibility there. But it is a very low possibility. Most likely this person hangs out with/does drugs with/parties with Antifa members and was an a minimum inspired to do this and even possibly encouraged or directed to do this.

We of course will never know because no one in DC will investigate Antifa.

Youre right in that there is likely no "roster" of Antifa / BLM anarchists. It isnt needed. Theyre enlisted under the same ideological "system" Marxist have always used. Give the dregs, desperate, rudderless, and deeply subconsciously knowingly "unworthy" a sense of purpose and they will be fanatcially loyal to the cause.

This is exactly what the original Bosheviks were...the dregs of Russian society. Outcasts, criminals, pedophiles, etc.

The reason they were given a modicum of power by their handlers is that losers know deep down that theyre losers and dont deserve the "power opportunity". This no other choice mentality breeds intense fanaticism and loyalty to the cause

Sound familiar?

Spandrell's concept of "BioLeninism" identifies the new ideas reframing the Marxist Communists movements. Basically the theory is that since poverty was largely on the decline around the world ( which is true) the original socio-economic divides that formed the basis of Marxism were becoming obsolete. So the communist strategists and ideologues started anchoring "The Great Injustice" on biological differences rather than economic ones. R

This is important for several reasons. Remember in order for Marxism to work at all you must have a conflict between two groups (Oppressed vs Oppressor) You are either one or the other.

Since economic grievances can be overcome and in fact were being overcome globally they needed a new focal point. Enter Bio-Greivances

Race (racism)
Gender (feminism)
Sexual orientation (LGBTQ issues)


Notice how these are the issues largely at the center of all the Lefts identity politics now?

Originally it was the "worker class" (oppressed) vs the "wealthy class" (oppressor). Well they dont give two fucks about workers anymore do they?

The particular evil genius behind this reworking of the Marxist / communist / socialist / progressive / post modernist strategy is that unlike economic issues. biological greivances cant ever be "fixed".

A bottomless grievance pool means and endless source of power for the the puppet masters to draw from and and an endless supply of fanatical useless idiots to enforce their power

Not the original article but some good analysis. I hope Spandrell (Bloody Shovel) gets his site back up


The concept really ties together a lot of the "whys" of what is happening.
 
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Does anyone one here know much about American Indian history? I wonder how it was before the land was colonized and importantly the situation came about where land could be owned, things were made bought and sold rather than the land is for all.

Please dont comment if you are not smart or mature enough to see where im coming from with this.

This is how it is now, its white mans way weather you like it or not. However I want to know and cant seem to find a definitive answer were indigenous people violent when they were living with the land and money, capitalism did not exist.

Is this baiting question?
It is long established that American Indians Tribes had a long history of violence and cruelty pre colonialism (as does every other culture and tribe).

Even Leftists know this.
 

kazz

Kingfisher
Whats a baiting question? All I hear about is that American Indians were peaceful people that were slaughtered by whites, mind you all my knowledge is coming from Hollywood movies. You know Dances with Wolves etc :)

I want to know the enemy and if there is any truth to what they say.

Thanks will have a read of that.
 
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