Race riots 2020

estraudi

Pelican
Gold Member
Whats a baiting question? All I hear about is that American Indians were peaceful people that were slaughtered by whites, mind you all my knowledge is coming from Hollywood movies. You know Dances with Wolves etc :)

I want to know the enemy and if there is any truth to what they say.

Natives were not peaceful and loving. Maybe amongst each individual tribe but they were and still are very warlike and aggressive in nature. This I think stemmed from their inability to setup and declare what is their property or territory so they could only defend what was visible to them , in their possession, or "as far as their eye could see". That was their demarcation line.
Along comes the white man and lo and behold white men bargained and did business as white men do which was to barter, trade, or offer sums of currency to "purchase" land and territory from the natives. This passive but civilized way of "doing business" was non-existent to natives. To the native you either retreat or he will kill you. That's how tribes kept separated, not by lines on a map but by the threat of death if you crossed a very real line in the dirt.

As you by now know this led to all the battles and death with the native tribes and hostility towards the white man that exists mostly to this day. This will never change. If you jump in a a bull ring don't expect the bull to accept your intrusion as a sign of friendliness. You are an outsider, somebody to remove. This is their mentality. This is their mantra. Special kind of breed. Native blood will forever remain fiery and almost incompatible with western civilization. They WANT to be at war the way a sports car engine is meant to be near redline. Their creator made them this way and they live that way, authentically, day in and day out.

What's funny and ironic to me is that natives migrated east from Asia and western civilization migrated west from Europe and the showdown ended up happening in the middle of the world, North America. I'm curious to see where in the future, or now, that this meeting of 2 distinct cultures or peoples are taking place that will see an increase of human destruction. History repeats itself, lest we forget.
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

Kingfisher
Gold Member
BLM and Antifa don't have official rosters and membership numbers. Sure they have organizers, but their foot soldiers are just random people recruited to show up and cause problems.

Is it possible this crazy person has no ideological connections to either BLM or Antifa? I am sure there is a small possibility there. But it is a very low possibility. Most likely this person hangs out with/does drugs with/parties with Antifa members and was an a minimum inspired to do this and even possibly encouraged or directed to do this.

We of course will never know because no one in DC will investigate Antifa.

Right but I'm talking social media posts, pictures of them at riots, etc
 

LeoniusD

Kingfisher
Papaya points it out well.

Since economic grievances can be overcome and in fact were being overcome globally they needed a new focal point. Enter Bio-Greivances

Race (racism)
Gender (feminism)
Sexual orientation (LGBTQ issues)


...

The particular evil genius behind this reworking of the Marxist / communist / socialist / progressive / post modernist strategy is that unlike economic issues. biological greivances cant ever be "fixed".

Those issues will never be able to be fixed. Women will always make different choices and have different brains and behavior, so they will always have different outcomes. Racial differences will also always exist unless you narrow down the average IQ differences - something that they deny exists, so fat chance. And even if you had every race clocking at one level, then some groups would have far greater ingroup-preference, some would be far more industrious and disciplined than others. There would still exist clear gaps in outcome even if the difference would be lesser.
The gay-trans-now-pedo difference demands eternal special treatment since those groups demand catering to their group as they will hopefully always stay a tiny minority. But everyone will be forced to bow down to them.

The current outrage when it comes to race is simply a huge gap of blacks and frankly every other group. Latinos do x-times better than blacks over generations, let alone Asians, Jews, Indians who often outperform average whites in the US due to a variety of factors.

All their arguments for now stem on the completely bogus statement that blacks are 13% of the population and they should be 13% of criminals, 13% of doctors, 13% of hollywood producers, 13% of nuclear engeineers and 13% of billionaires. The same goes for women only more insane since they pick only the good professions while don't mind making up 0,01% of sanitation workers.

This in truth can never be fulfilled - and if you attempt doing it, then you will destroy the country, the economy and the scientific progress long-term. South Africa is doing it firing qualified engineers and hiring completely unqualified blacks in order to fulfill their quota - which resulted in collapsing infrastructure projects. You essentially become a failed state.

And it does not take a genius to realize that the countries in Asia who won't listen to this Bioleninism will easily outperform every western country. China, Japan and Korea will be the centers of this planet for the next centuries. They will produce the new hovercars while the 'oppressed minorities' in France or the US will continue burning down cars and the insane indoctrinated women demand to be 50% of engineers while the work is done by 10% of the men who are neither trans or otherwise oppressed (Google employees clearly point in the right direction already).
 

Papaya

Crow
Gold Member

Gimlet

Woodpecker
I'd bet $10 that is a picture of a US Forest Service trail crew out clearing blowdowns or a burned out area (the gas can is for the chainsaw in the foreground). Antifa flag is pretty bad photoshop, the real version it is probably a flag from their country or school or a sign. I can't do an image search for some reason but I suspect the original photo would not be hard to find. Here are some similar examples:

Guys holding the antifa flag are too scrawny to be a service trail crew. They look too skinny to change a lightbulb. Maybe junior high school students?
 

Yeah well I am old-fashioned and of the 'I have to see to believe' kind

I'd consider this a BLM/antifa related shooting if the perp
* has attended BLM protests
* is a member of BLM/antifa chatgroups on Telegram/FB/ any other social media
* has stated obvious pro BLM/ anti police statements on his FB timeline
* is left leaning and has Marxist tendencies or is politically engaged

If he ticks one of those boxes I agree on him being a BLM terrorist

If he ticks none of those boxes I consider him to be part of the anti-police Black thug life getto gangster culture
 
I wish our enemies afforded us the same courtesy.

Obviously every White American that gets into an altercation, or even defends himself from verbal attacks is by default a White Supremacist, nazi, racist, blablabla

I prefer to stick to my morals. For now.

This is no bragging or anything. people that have to live through this BS personally might have lower tolerance levels
 
Natives were not peaceful and loving. Maybe amongst each individual tribe but they were and still are very warlike and aggressive in nature. This I think stemmed from their inability to setup and declare what is their property or territory so they could only defend what was visible to them , in their possession, or "as far as their eye could see". That was their demarcation line.
Along comes the white man and lo and behold white men bargained and did business as white men do which was to barter, trade, or offer sums of currency to "purchase" land and territory from the natives. This passive but civilized way of "doing business" was non-existent to natives. To the native you either retreat or he will kill you. That's how tribes kept separated, not by lines on a map but by the threat of death if you crossed a very real line in the dirt.

As you by now know this led to all the battles and death with the native tribes and hostility towards the white man that exists mostly to this day. This will never change. If you jump in a a bull ring don't expect the bull to accept your intrusion as a sign of friendliness. You are an outsider, somebody to remove. This is their mentality. This is their mantra. Special kind of breed. Native blood will forever remain fiery and almost incompatible with western civilization. They WANT to be at war the way a sports car engine is meant to be near redline. Their creator made them this way and they live that way, authentically, day in and day out.

What's funny and ironic to me is that natives migrated east from Asia and western civilization migrated west from Europe and the showdown ended up happening in the middle of the world, North America. I'm curious to see where in the future, or now, that this meeting of 2 distinct cultures or peoples are taking place that will see an increase of human destruction. History repeats itself, lest we forget.

Actually, Dances with Wolves showed the rivalry and regular state of warfare between the various Indian tribes.

"As you by now know this led to all the battles and death with the native tribes and hostility towards the white man that exists mostly to this day. This will never change. If you jump in a a bull ring don't expect the bull to accept your intrusion as a sign of friendliness. You are an outsider, somebody to remove. This is their mentality. This is their mantra. Special kind of breed. Native blood will forever remain fiery and almost incompatible with western civilization. They WANT to be at war the way a sports car engine is meant to be near redline. Their creator made them this way and they live that way, authentically, day in and day out."

I don't agree. I have known quite a number of Native Americans who adjusted to white/western society, graduating from college, having successful careers, and having families raised in cities, and not a reservation. But yes, many Indians are content to stay on the reservation, and stew in their pain and anger. Alcoholism, drugs and domestic and sexual abuse are major problems in such communities. These people are members of a defeated and beaten down people (read about how whites in power treated them in the late 19th and early 20th century, with boarding schools meant to stamp out their cultural identity), and many have basically given up.

As with blacks, so it is goes with American Indians. You have those with ambition and intelligence, doing well in society, and creating a successful middle class. But then you have those who make excuses and gave up (often with good reason, but still, it got them nowhere), indulging in all sorts of vices, and who live in a ghetto subculture of severe and self-perpetuating dysfunction.

I used to manage an upscale lodge. And I would hear words of sharp judgment from middle to upper middle class blacks, about poor ghetto blacks. I can only imagine how a poor black ghetto male showing up at the doorstep of a middle class (or better) black family to date their daughter, would most likely be received. And the same scenario of course, for American Indians.
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

Owl
Gold Member
Yeah well I am old-fashioned and of the 'I have to see to believe' kind

I'd consider this a BLM/antifa related shooting if the perp
* has attended BLM protests
* is a member of BLM/antifa chatgroups on Telegram/FB/ any other social media
* has stated obvious pro BLM/ anti police statements on his FB timeline
* is left leaning and has Marxist tendencies or is politically engaged

If he ticks one of those boxes I agree on him being a BLM terrorist

If he ticks none of those boxes I consider him to be part of the anti-police Black thug life getto gangster culture

The point that you're missing is that a random ghetto gangbanger would never feel so emboldened to assassinate two cops sitting in their car if it weren't for BLM. It's simply taboo.

BLM propaganda transforms the business-like "oh look, those pigs are on us, better play dumb or they'll mess up our drug deal" attitude found in a usual ghetto into a murderous "let's murder those racist pigs whenever possible" fanaticism, even if the person never makes a single Facebook post about it.

Similarly, an upper class white BLM revolutionary combines making Instagram stories with burning down businesses and bashing random pedestrians on the street with the same zeal as a ghetto enforcer collecting on debts. Yes, he's not technically a gang member, but he sure deserves to be treated like one even if it was "just a protest".

Splitting hairs about textbook BLM actions not being BLM is lame at best, subversive at worst.

"Is your friend a construction worker? No, he just pours cement."

Right.
 
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