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<blockquote data-quote="BarrontheTigercat" data-source="post: 1462235" data-attributes="member: 21308">I was a postman for a while in a tough Scottish city.Thursdays was Govt cheque day and there was a &#039;police escort&#039; or rather &#039;police presence&#039; in the underclass/drug-addict areas of the town.But the bottom line was each city is laced with postal vans picking up and dropping off the later mail drops for postmen who are already out on their rounds.What actually happened was that - when a group of junkies did actually try beating and mugging a lone postman for his cheques etc. on a bleak housing estate... the shout went out and in no time about 3 vans freshly filled with very angry posties who had been picked up along the way skidded up and beat the ever living wot-sit out of the junkie gang.The post-scenario debate with the authorities was about making sure all cheques and items of value were accounted for, making sure the street gang were prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and finally if there was a way that the police could coordinate better with the posties to make sure not even one postman ever copped a head shot again.As far as consequences for the postmen who kicked the teeth out of the junkies or who had broken a few jaws and ribs whilst this fracas had meant that their daily lunch time pub meeting had been delayed? Well, that would have brought forth amused laughter.But those days, although fairly recent, nobody had ever heard of toxic masculinity or something called &#039;whiteness&#039; and Scotland didn&#039;t have a communist SNP government. The police forces were localized and not centralized as they subsequently were under the SNP (a backward step).Nowadays even Northern Scotland is different.Funny how fast things change.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BarrontheTigercat, post: 1462235, member: 21308"] I was a postman for a while in a tough Scottish city. Thursdays was Govt cheque day and there was a 'police escort' or rather 'police presence' in the underclass/drug-addict areas of the town. But the bottom line was each city is laced with postal vans picking up and dropping off the later mail drops for postmen who are already out on their rounds. What actually happened was that - when a group of junkies did actually try beating and mugging a lone postman for his cheques etc. on a bleak housing estate... the shout went out and in no time about 3 vans freshly filled with very angry posties who had been picked up along the way skidded up and beat the ever living wot-sit out of the junkie gang. The post-scenario debate with the authorities was about making sure all cheques and items of value were accounted for, making sure the street gang were prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and finally if there was a way that the police could coordinate better with the posties to make sure not even one postman ever copped a head shot again. As far as consequences for the postmen who kicked the teeth out of the junkies or who had broken a few jaws and ribs whilst this fracas had meant that their daily lunch time pub meeting had been delayed? Well, that would have brought forth amused laughter. But those days, although fairly recent, nobody had ever heard of toxic masculinity or something called 'whiteness' and Scotland didn't have a communist SNP government. The police forces were localized and not centralized as they subsequently were under the SNP (a backward step). Nowadays even Northern Scotland is different. Funny how fast things change. [/QUOTE]

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