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Reports from American cities
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SlickyBoy
Ostrich
I don't think that trend has anything to do with discipline. People eat what is available, affordable and culturally familiar. For Quebec, that's always been an interesting mix of French and native North American foods/meats.
The obesity epidemic didn't really hit America until the availability of processed food took over from where regular, if a bit ordinary, food options once stood. People in rural America didn't really start getting huge until this change happened, beginning in the late 80s, early 90s. That plus fast food and seed oil was the death knell for eating without having to think much about health risks.
The minute Quebec decides to let the American dollar stores with pallets of cheap junk food into areas with existing small grocery stores, it's over for them - they will all be as fat as Americans. I really hope that never happens.
SlickyBoy
Ostrich
Not sure what you mean here. Does this refer to the fact that a waiter without a nose ring, purple hair and sleeve tattoos is about as rare as hen's teeth?
The processed foods influx is certainly a huge part of it. You mention culture but that runs hand in hand with discipline.
American culture has become the most indulgent in the world. It's not like junk food and fast food doesn't exist in Quebec or other countries. It does and it's nearly as accessible, but the quantity sold is much less. It's like the difference between having 40 vs. 20 fast food joints in city, or two aisles of junk food in the store vs. one aisle. The demand is just so huge in America because our appetites have been conditioned to it due to decades of cultural programming, and people snack constantly throughout the day.
So even if Quebec suddenly fills up with pallets of cheap junk food, I don't think most people are going to rush to buy it. But they certainly might after a massive wave of advertising and propaganda generates demand.
SlickyBoy
Ostrich
I hope you are correct. I still don't think for most of the population that it has anything to do with discipline. Discipline is what's needed in the early stages of quitting a bad habit, and maybe a bit longer for more seriously addicted people. Once a new habit is formed, it's routed that way, often for good.
But when people are led a certain way (via propaganda, as you pointed out - sometimes very subtle) it no longer occurs to them that they even have a bad habit.
For example, how many gay people who've been gay ever since they were steered that way much earlier in life need discipline to keep them in the habit of looking for fornication with the same sex? To them that's just "how they are" etc. In fact the few who do wake up and try to correct their ways are lambasted by the crabs in the bucket for trying to leave the plantation.
The same happened with food in America. The KY and WV hill people didn't say "Damn, look at all that junk food - I'm gonna need discipline to stick with my grass fed beef and fresh vegetables" They simply no longer had the choices they used to have or the choices became economically unrealistic. They got led along by the false economy of cheaper processed "food" and drifted towards something devastating but tasty to them.
This is why I cringe at the libertarian "free choice" nonsense in situations where there was obviously no or very limited choice.
As it stands, the trend already isn't great for poor Quebec: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/obesity-study-doubled-quebec-1.5254103
They mention diet, but they seem to blame sedentary lifestyles more - which is bull, they've had cars and modern conveniences for a while now.
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It's not like healthy food is actually that expensive. It is said people used to spend over 20% of their income on food in the 50s, and today we only spend 10%. Healthy food has become cheaper than what it was before. It just doesn't look cheap relative to the junk food.
As you say, habits matter, and people have become greedier and lazier. They'd rather have that shiny new pickup or big TV instead of looking after their health. Now admittedly, in some rural areas or small towns you don't have much choice. But for people in cities there are plenty of options.
Then there's the question of all these chemicals in our general environment. All of it has an effect on our health that we don't fully understand.
Witnessed a man walking down the center of a 4 lane (each way) interstate highway today, in between lanes, against the flow of traffic. He walked past my vehicle, we made eye contact, looked like an early 20s man, blood on his face, and a crazed look in his eye. I dialed 911 because the guy was going to get himself killed walking on the highway like that, and I literally had to wait 5 whole minutes before a dispatch operator picked up. Never had to wait that long, or at all before. Things are so bad now that calling 911 is like calling Xfinity customer service.
The level of chaos that you witness on an average day in this city, just simply driving to work... I wonder how much worse it's going to get, and how long it's going to take for the globohomoized, mind numbed local populace to admit there's a problem.
The level of chaos that you witness on an average day in this city, just simply driving to work... I wonder how much worse it's going to get, and how long it's going to take for the globohomoized, mind numbed local populace to admit there's a problem.
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I've seen guys walking on the freeway where there really wasn't even a shoulder to walk on. I figured they had a homeless camp setup somewhere in a freeway median area.
Yeah I've seen people walking on the sides before, but seeing someone walking on the center lane marker through traffic was a first for me...
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Years ago I was driving down the interstate through a very ghetto area, the kind of area where you don't stray from the highway unless you absolutely need to. I witnessed a crazed man from the shoulder suddenly run across four lanes of traffic doing 70 mph, jump the median, then run across the four lanes on the other side.
Thank the Lord we all braked in time, I have no idea what was going through his head. If the socioeconomic situation in this country continues to deteriorate, expect this kind of thing more often. Soon you won't even want to drive through the ghettos on the interstate, it'll be like Johannesburg.
Thank the Lord we all braked in time, I have no idea what was going through his head. If the socioeconomic situation in this country continues to deteriorate, expect this kind of thing more often. Soon you won't even want to drive through the ghettos on the interstate, it'll be like Johannesburg.
A couple years ago, in Montgomery County, Maryland, arguably the richest county in the US, I called 911 because I saw a flung cigarette start a fire along the side of the road in a matter of seconds.
Minutes went by before a black female operator picked up. A lazy and rude black female operator.
I wonder how many people she‘s let die.
The average person usually takes action when change has become so blatantly obvious that it has become irreversible. In other words: don't get your hopes up. Make plans to leave to greener pastures.
As Dollar Stores Proliferate Food Deserts, Some Communities Push Back
Dollar stores often fill the gap when grocery stores exit communitieswww.eater.com
America: the land where obese people can get their Lays and Squirts for $1, while they wait on their next UBI check.
I don’t drink soda, but dont those twelve packs cost way more than $1? Or is it $1 per can?
Also I’ve noticed that Potato chips, Doritos etc are no longer cheap…like $6 for a small bag that most people would crush in 1-2 days. Not a good deal, but that is actually good that the price of junk food is high, that can help fix the obesity issues if it is more aligned with healthier “real” food options.
I would assume you're correct. I was making a joke, based on the photo. I just got back from the US the other day and was shocked at how expensive everything has become, compared with my last visit 5 years ago. Everything is 2-3x more expensive. I won't complain about the high costs in Europe anymore.
dicknixon72
Pelican
Where's the fudge rounds?
SlickyBoy
Ostrich
Therein lies the problem, though - in many places, the dollar store is the only place aside from a McDonalds where you can get any "food" without driving 45 minutes to an hour. So it may be more expensive, but they'll just steal a few catalytic converters and sell them to get money to buy food - after they got some meth, of course.
Also, last time I ate any potato chips, I had the urge to eat the whole bag - the taste is engineered to keep you eating, even though they don't satisfy. It's scary. According to a book on the subject, some of the same people who once worked for big tobacco now work for food companies producing this crap.
Hooked book on Amazon
SlickyBoy
Ostrich
What urban area was this?
I spoke with a small business owner a few years ago. A friend of his opened a couple of those take and bake pizza shops. He said the guy made so much more money from his ghetto store rather than from the store in the nicer suburb. He encouraged me to look into it in my home area.
I have had dealings with that type of clientele in my regular job. I don't want to start a business after retirement that deals with same.
I have had dealings with that type of clientele in my regular job. I don't want to start a business after retirement that deals with same.