Reports from American cities

Renzy

Pelican
Catholic
Could you guys tell me which states have the biggest amount of people close to our ideas ( in general ) and if those states touch each other .
Just trying to check on a map where a
heavily patriotic "retreat" could happen.
Please don't be harsh in your answers as I am asking because I am not from the USA .

West Virginia
 

FullThrottleTX

 
Banned
Feel for you buddy. As you know, I'm still up in the Midwest. One of my buddies (he's a former marine that is tired of our state's draconian policies & decimated economy) may be moving to the sunbelt sooner rather than later (either TX or FL), and I too am keeping a close eye on areas like that (maybe less dense parts of FL) as part of a younger snowbird strategy at some point. I know I've been done with city living for a long time now & have mostly been in the further out suburbs of major cities. Been paying a bit of a premium to stick to safer burbs even if the space I can afford isn't huge. Oh well, we'll see what ends up happening.

Texas has a lot of things going for it outside of the major cities. Fort Worth is probably still fine, their protests were tame.
I can hardly complain about Texans. Even the people moving here from California tend to be conservative, especially in the burbs. Incidentally, the jobs and prosperity are in the burbs as well. Plano is something like the safest city in the US.

Demographically though, Texas and Florida are definitely the top 2 destinations for Californians and New Yorkers, respectively -- and the fastest growing states. We also have a lot of Chicagoans here. I can say between 2016 and 2018 I noticed my suburban neighborhood was getting blacker with people from Chicago and New York. It's just something I'm watching out for. For the most part though, I'm not worried about the burbs, especially towards Fort Worth the people are quite decent.

Funny haired, hipster/anarchist types participating in the riots aren't really representative of Dallas, which is why I'm not surprised they aren't from the city.
 

get2choppaaa

Hummingbird
Orthodox
In Houston. I dont buy into the "its all antifa subverting the peaceful black protests idea." There's lots of blacks just looking for an excuse to get theirs.

I work in the 3rd ward (area George Floyd was from...which is a dump) and drive across town as I live toward Katy (a suburb that is mostly WASPy) For context I am a Marine Vet, bald, short and fairly yoked and i stick out at my apartment complex which is mostly lower income and fairly non-anglo. Its not a high crime area but I had to call the cops a month ago over a shooting so its not full of a bunch of Little Lord Fauntleroy's either. Even still, other than the occasional loud 4am rap music and dope, its fairly safe by the standards I've seen while in the Military for bases/or 3rd world shitholes... Last Friday my girlfriend, was waiting at my door when the known neighborhood local drug dealer, a black guy, was on his phone talking about the planned riots for the weekend. He was apparently going on about the stores they intended to loot, fuck the police, burn it down ect...They arrested almost 300 people in down town that weekend.... She is also a Paramedic in the area neighboring where George Floyd's burial will be conducted. There are planned protest Thursday at the police precinct in her area... apparently eventbrite has all the details so while that may have some outside organization, I doubt very seriously the people who show up will be leaving the 3rd Ward to drive over to Katy as thats over 20 miles away. This will be interesting...

Meanwhile Houston's gay black mayor is hamming it up, while our anti-gun Hispanic police chief is protesting with the assholes in the street. Also the Hispanic county judge who ordered the mask hysteria over Carona Virus and was personally rebuked by the AG/Lt Gov has been silent.... No calling to stop gathering... So this all leads me to the point that yes, there may be some Antifa involvement, and yes there may be some oligarchical allowance and Soviet type subversion via the media, but mostly this is legitimately a racial issue that stems from media narrative pushed over time and the idea among blacks in Houston that they can get away with rioting.
 

beta_plus

Pelican
100% agreed with that.
I would even pay myself double with pleasure just to be sure they never come back

It's going to be an interesting day when a black leader is recorded confronting a right wing white leader, accusing him of supporting white supremacists who want to "put my people back in chains picking cotton!", and the white leader responds with:

"First of all, most of those people are white nationalists, not supremacists, who I still do not support.

Second of all, if you actually did some research, you'd know that they don't want to 'put your people back in chains'.

They want to strip your people of their citizenship and expel them from the continent."
 

Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
In Houston. I dont buy into the "its all antifa subverting the peaceful black protests idea." There's lots of blacks just looking for an excuse to get theirs.

I work in the 3rd ward (area George Floyd was from...which is a dump) and drive across town as I live toward Katy (a suburb that is mostly WASPy) For context I am a Marine Vet, bald, short and fairly yoked and i stick out at my apartment complex which is mostly lower income and fairly non-anglo. Its not a high crime area but I had to call the cops a month ago over a shooting so its not full of a bunch of Little Lord Fauntleroy's either. Even still, other than the occasional loud 4am rap music and dope, its fairly safe by the standards I've seen while in the Military for bases/or 3rd world shitholes... Last Friday my girlfriend, was waiting at my door when the known neighborhood local drug dealer, a black guy, was on his phone talking about the planned riots for the weekend. He was apparently going on about the stores they intended to loot, fuck the police, burn it down ect...They arrested almost 300 people in down town that weekend.... She is also a Paramedic in the area neighboring where George Floyd's burial will be conducted. There are planned protest Thursday at the police precinct in her area... apparently eventbrite has all the details so while that may have some outside organization, I doubt very seriously the people who show up will be leaving the 3rd Ward to drive over to Katy as thats over 20 miles away. This will be interesting...

Meanwhile Houston's gay black mayor is hamming it up, while our anti-gun Hispanic police chief is protesting with the assholes in the street. Also the Hispanic county judge who ordered the mask hysteria over Carona Virus and was personally rebuked by the AG/Lt Gov has been silent.... No calling to stop gathering... So this all leads me to the point that yes, there may be some Antifa involvement, and yes there may be some oligarchical allowance and Soviet type subversion via the media, but mostly this is legitimately a racial issue that stems from media narrative pushed over time and the idea among blacks in Houston that they can get away with rioting.
The truth is nuanced. Antifa is involved in agitating protests. That suggests top-down orchestration and planning. This fact is needed to understand the overall agenda of what's going on. Would blacks riot/loot without Antifa? In many--if not most--cases, yes. But Antifa's job (along with the media) is to pour gasoline on the fire, to cause destruction that would be worse otherwise. If blacks were left to protest without organizational help, things would be like the late 60s race riots, intense but more organic and self-limiting.
 

eradicator

Peacock
Agnostic
Gold Member
The arson and looting are hitting Manhattan this evening. People are out in large numbers. I’m at home but some of my friends are filming from their windows .

I have work in Manhattan in the morning and will see how bad the firedamage is then.

this city has survived 9/11 and hurricane sandy, it will get over this. I’m curious as to how many nights this will go on.

I am considering bugging out to another state, not sure which one or how long
 

FullThrottleTX

 
Banned
The truth is nuanced. Antifa is involved in agitating protests. That suggests top-down orchestration and planning. This fact is needed to understand the overall agenda of what's going on. Would blacks riot/loot without Antifa? In many--if not most--cases, yes. But Antifa's job (along with the media) is to pour gasoline on the fire, to cause destruction that would be worse otherwise. If blacks were left to protest without organizational help, things would be like the late 60s race riots, intense but more organic and self-limiting.

I've mentioned before on the forum, I used to be a left wing political organizer and political consultant in Maryland and DC.
No left wing group is this organized and able to execute on-demand the kind of action we have seen over the past few days. I was involved in organizing the anti-war protests in the 2000s. Outside of the District and NYC (where we had participation > 100k), we were never able to get these kind of numbers out to events in smaller cities (and in the District, we were very peaceful and made and effort to get permits, and had a very good relationship with the police - incidentally). Social media plays a role of course, but the truth of the matter is: real left wing organizing barely ever musters any involvement. It's definitely possible to have peaceful protests and go through official channels, especially in DC. It happens all the time. So the goal was mayhem and rioting. I don't believe for a second it wasn't.

There is financing and professional organizing behind this at a very high level and it's not just "activist groups".
 

Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
I've mentioned before on the forum, I used to be a left wing political organizer and political consultant in Maryland and DC.
No left wing group is this organized and able to execute on-demand the kind of action we have seen over the past few days. I was involved in organizing the anti-war protests in the 2000s. Outside of the District and NYC (where we had participation > 100k), we were never able to get these kind of numbers out to events in smaller cities (and in the District, we were very peaceful and made and effort to get permits, and had a very good relationship with the police - incidentally). Social media plays a role of course, but the truth of the matter is: real left wing organizing barely ever musters any involvement. It's definitely possible to have peaceful protests and go through official channels, especially in DC. It happens all the time. So the goal was mayhem and rioting. I don't believe for a second it wasn't.

There is financing and professional organizing behind this at a very high level and it's not just "activist groups".
What organizations/groups would have to be involved to get these numbers?
 
Part of it is outside influences most likely govts as I see this as a soft color revolution. Its beyond just the fact that it is an election year. We have to always keep in mind the psychological effect of events. Communism does not spread first through the bullet but first through ideology. These riots are creating conflicting ideologies that are having a psychological impact especially on the youth. Regardless of how it is handled this further demoralizes, erodes trust in authority, and divides the country further.
 

FullThrottleTX

 
Banned
What organizations/groups would have to be involved to get these numbers?

It's the approach and distribution more than the numbers, since real protest events are usually bigger than what I'm seeing even in DC. An activist group would try to engage their base. For most groups, that's challenging to do on a nationwide basis (DC okay, lots of politically engaged folks). Which activist groups have nationwide reach in EVERY US city? That just doesn't exist, this is why police are reporting that a lot of the people they are arresting are not from the cities they are protesting in....

So you have the local black population, which has some genuine malcontent, then you have white activist organizers that are being paid for to encourage looting and mayhem...
By who, I don't know.

It's pretty easy to have a peaceful protest in most US cities (with a Police escort if big enough, including blocking off streets FOR the protest, not against it). Which is why it's ridiculous that it's come to this.
 

get2choppaaa

Hummingbird
Orthodox
I've mentioned before on the forum, I used to be a left wing political organizer and political consultant in Maryland and DC.
No left wing group is this organized and able to execute on-demand the kind of action we have seen over the past few days. I was involved in organizing the anti-war protests in the 2000s. Outside of the District and NYC (where we had participation > 100k), we were never able to get these kind of numbers out to events in smaller cities (and in the District, we were very peaceful and made and effort to get permits, and had a very good relationship with the police - incidentally). Social media plays a role of course, but the truth of the matter is: real left wing organizing barely ever musters any involvement. It's definitely possible to have peaceful protests and go through official channels, especially in DC. It happens all the time. So the goal was mayhem and rioting. I don't believe for a second it wasn't.

There is financing and professional organizing behind this at a very high level and it's not just "activist groups".


I agree. There are plenty who are opportunistically invested in the chaos. In this case the black rioters are serving the place of useful idiots as Yuri Bezmenov has explained in his videos about Soviet Subversion. The goal of the protests is to further the revolution. The goal of the revolution is the revolution itself.
 

ABeast

 
Banned
Syracuse here, relatively mild riots and they imposed a curfew (though it has been lifted for some reason). There is random violence going on and I had to convince the Boomer lockdown protesters not to go protest the curfew! Antifa would eat them alive, I am trying to teach them how to stay grouped and calm for when encounters do happen. I'll continue with the lockdown protests and group prayers even if there are riots.

Most of my liberal friends are quite clueless as to how much of a powder-keg the city is. I've been commuting to the South Side where I grew up to work with my Father and it is a different world from the hilly college areas. Swarms of teenagers on dirt-bikes and atvs all over the place. Sometimes an ethnic gang will roll through, 20-30 on dirt bikes all over the sidewalks. I guess you become used to these things and don't realize we are a city on the edge of total chaos. I'm arguing with these libertarians in the burbs and I can actually hear the explosions off in the distance. Hoping that the cops aren't ordered to stand-down tonight!
 

FullThrottleTX

 
Banned
Soros, Gates, Bezos

Incidentally, I've worked for "Open Society Institute" funded orgs also.
Most of them are not effective in what they do, but thats not really the point.
Soros seems most likely.

The arson and looting are hitting Manhattan this evening. People are out in large numbers. I’m at home but some of my friends are filming from their windows .

I have work in Manhattan in the morning and will see how bad the firedamage is then.

this city has survived 9/11 and hurricane sandy, it will get over this. I’m curious as to how many nights this will go on.

I am considering bugging out to another state, not sure which one or how long

Get out man.
It's tough. There's love.
But NYC is the easiest place in the US to leave. You will do better anywhere else.

As a former New Yorker, in the last 48 hours I went from having some latent feelings missing my former home, to being about as dedicated to staying away from ALL big US cities as one could be.
 

eradicator

Peacock
Agnostic
Gold Member
Incidentally, I've worked for "Open Society Institute" funded orgs also.
Most of them are not effective in what they do, but thats not really the point.
Soros seems most likely.



Get out man.
It's tough. There's love.
But NYC is the easiest place in the US to leave. You will do better anywhere else.

As a former New Yorker, in the last 48 hours I went from having some latent feelings missing my former home, to being about as dedicated to staying away from ALL big US cities as one could be.

Im an actor. I guess I could try London or Asia I guess? Honestly I’ve been in nyc for 3 years and it’s been a great town for me overall and I like it here, this yearis taking a turn for the worse with the riots.
 

FullThrottleTX

 
Banned
Im an actor. I guess I could try London or Asia I guess? Honestly I’ve been in nyc for 3 years and it’s been a great town for me overall and I like it here, this yearis taking a turn for the worse with the riots.

Yeah, worst scenerio career-wise for leaving NYC, and a more unusual case.
I love NYC too, but it's become a shell of what it used to be.
 

R.G.Camara

 
Banned
A tactic Antifa has used is handing out fireworks to people and having them throw it at crowds to incite panic and violence.

All people will hear and see is an explosion and think its either gunfire or a bomb, and they will either stampede or respond with violence. It creates havoc, and then if the police respond with gunshots, the Antifa will claim the police acted aggressively, and that the otherside didn't have any guns.

In Boston this morning they found fireworks scattered in the aftermath. And tonight I know of a smaller city where people were tossing fireworks at people on the street.

A classic communist ploy.
 
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