Resisting against coronavirus laws

Went to such a distopian diner last night with the wife it freaked me out and we left instantly. Soon as you enter the restaurant they have this hall lobby, before you have to go through another door to enter restaurant. It was like this Asian place got technology from overseas because I have never seen this anywhere else in my area. They made you walk up to this robot with facial recognition that takes your temp, and it also told me to lift my mask up . Once the machine gives you the green light they let you enter. I wanted to leave instantly but things have been shaky with the wife and I thought I could just suck it up for her. They then wanted your name and phone number, which I told them Tony Hawk and my number is 666 666 6666 . They started taking us to our table and there was a sign that said unless your chewing you must be muzzled at all other times. The waiter said ill come back quick and take your appetizer choices so you can take the mask of quickly. I looked around and people were putting piece of sushi in their mouth and muzzling up instantly. I looked at the wife and didnt care anymore bout how shaky our relationship is right now and just said " I cant be in this distopian nightmare, lets go". Luckily she agreed and did not want to be there either. Made me wish we never even did the temp check, but whatever. Started heading for door and waiter asked if there was a problem i told them " I feel like im in Aushwitz and the fuher is going to walk out of kitchen any moment and wave to people, come up to some tables and check to see if they liked the specials..im all set, too distopian and draconian, with that said the Hawks (Tony Hawk name I gave ) are leaving.

We ended up going to same place we went to few weeks ago. Didnt have any of these measures at all, and place was empty, and riddled with negative reviews. We got treated like kings. The sushi place we went to first has nothing but 5 star reviews people saying they dont even feel that safe at home as they do at this sushi establishment.
 
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Forester

Sparrow
Had a contractor come to do a window replacement at my house this morning, and as I stepped outside to say good morning, he tried to do one of those ridiculous "elbow bump" greetings. I stood there and probably looked at him funny, extended my hand, and told him "It's OK, you can shake my hand", to which he happily accepted. When I told him he didn't have to wear his silly mask either, you could see the relief in his eyes and it certainly put a big smile on his face after he took it off. I'm sure he was relieved to be able to work normally for once.
 

Mountaineer

Pelican
Gold Member
Had a contractor come to do a window replacement at my house this morning, and as I stepped outside to say good morning, he tried to do one of those ridiculous "elbow bump" greetings. I stood there and probably looked at him funny, extended my hand, and told him "It's OK, you can shake my hand", to which he happily accepted. When I told him he didn't have to wear his silly mask either, you could see the relief in his eyes and it certainly put a big smile on his face after he took it off. I'm sure he was relieved to be able to work normally for once.
I find it to be quite a powerful gesture. It kind of reminds us the importance of humanity.
 
Just went to the supermarket.

I was eating the snack I wanted to buy, and opening the jar of pasta source I wanted as I went to pay.

She said I had to wear a mask, and told me off for eating before paying... so I asked with 'genuine' confusion "but how can I eat it if I'm wearing a mask?".

She was already ringing it up at that point.

I'm quite enjoying this game... when you're obviously intending to pay, but the goods are already spoiled, there's not much they can do (other than ban you from the store... in which case f[earmuffs] it, I'll go somewhere else.
 
Hired a small moving company. Two blue collar men in their 30s showed up. As soon as they moving started I said "you don't need to wear your masks in my place." Instantly they both took them off and thanked me earnestly. Could be wrong, but here I'm noticing a clear mask divide between white collar soyboys and blue collar men who work with their hands.
 

C-Note

Ostrich
Gold Member
A judge is allowing ninety New York bars and restaurants to stay open until 4 a.m. instead of closing at 11 p.m. by order of Killer Cuomo, effective immediately.


His order only applies to those venues, not all the restaurants in the state. This goes to show that all the restaurants and bars need to do is band together and start suing. Keeping their heads down and trying to wait it out is not the right move. This makes me want to go to the restaurants in my area and say, "See what these guys did in New York? Why won't you do the same thing?"
 

scubadude

Woodpecker
At the store the other day checking out. As she’s handing me the receipt, the early 20’s basic white girl tells me that “just so you know, masks are required so next time please wear one.”

I looked her straight in the eyes with my pale white, masculine face and said “you’re just saying that because I’m a trans black woman, you wouldn’t say that if I was a white man”.

She looked flustered and stammered something about have a nice day and I left.
 

Seadog

Kingfisher
Hired a small moving company. Two blue collar men in their 30s showed up. As soon as they moving started I said "you don't need to wear your masks in my place." Instantly they both took them off and thanked me earnestly. Could be wrong, but here I'm noticing a clear mask divide between white collar soyboys and blue collar men who work with their hands.

I've noticed it too, but I would say it goes even broader, more to based people who live in the real world, and do real things, and appreciate that risk is simply a part of life, needs to be smartly managed, and can never be completely eliminated. Because like terrorism, there is a whole other side to the equation, namely the cost of implementing these measures, and it very quickly becomes a game of steeply diminishing returns where the cost outweighs the benifit.

Many of the most anti mask friends I have are ex oil field workers, trades, ex motorcycle racers, stock from parents who smuggled themselves out of the USSR on forged documents and realize there is a risk to all this, and that the worst happening is a possibility, but worth it for the potential rewards.

Many of my pro mask friends/acquaintances are WFH, never got their hands dirty, never seen 3rd world poverty first hand, and are largely living in some sort of fairy tale world, where the gov't handles all the unpleasantness in the world. They don't even want to think about it, so easiest to just do what they say, since they really haven't been adversely affected at all. As long as they have their WFH paycheque, their netflix, and their home wine and grocery delivery, why worry? These are the people happy to extend to lock downs forever until there are 0 cases of covid world wide while small businesses burn, and a mental health and addiction epidemics flourish. "Even if a billion people starve to death, and another 100m kill themselves, it will be worth it if it saves one covid victim"

That said, like so many things, it's only once things personally affect you do you take a critical look at it. One of my good friend's wife, was an ardent supporter in the beginning and hadn't left her house in 8 weeks last Mar and watched fear porn 8 hrs a day, has done a full 180. What did it was when her 102 yo grandmother had unexpected organ failure, and was given a couple days. They wern't allowed to visit, they weren't allowed a funeral. All they got was a 2 hr drive so that they could spend 10 minutes with the body after she passed. This is despite where I am having some of the lowest Covid rates in North America. I gave it a few weeks, then asked her if her grandmother's body had a mask, and if it counted towards the group limits. One more soul saved.
 

Jake007

Pigeon
Any recent reports of protests in Europe?

Copenhagen last night. There are protests in CPH every week. According to mainstream media, there was around a thousand protestors last night, but probably a lot more in reality since the protests are really visible. A handful of arrests for using fireworks and "assaulting police". The most famous and most controversial right wing politician in Denmark showed up for the protest yesterday

The protestors are against the lockdowns, against masks, and asking the prime minister to step down

Some images here:

 
I've noticed it too, but I would say it goes even broader, more to based people who live in the real world, and do real things, and appreciate that risk is simply a part of life, needs to be smartly managed, and can never be completely eliminated. Because like terrorism, there is a whole other side to the equation, namely the cost of implementing these measures, and it very quickly becomes a game of steeply diminishing returns where the cost outweighs the benifit.

Many of the most anti mask friends I have are ex oil field workers, trades, ex motorcycle racers, stock from parents who smuggled themselves out of the USSR on forged documents and realize there is a risk to all this, and that the worst happening is a possibility, but worth it for the potential rewards.

Many of my pro mask friends/acquaintances are WFH, never got their hands dirty, never seen 3rd world poverty first hand, and are largely living in some sort of fairy tale world, where the gov't handles all the unpleasantness in the world. They don't even want to think about it, so easiest to just do what they say, since they really haven't been adversely affected at all. As long as they have their WFH paycheque, their netflix, and their home wine and grocery delivery, why worry? These are the people happy to extend to lock downs forever until there are 0 cases of covid world wide while small businesses burn, and a mental health and addiction epidemics flourish. "Even if a billion people starve to death, and another 100m kill themselves, it will be worth it if it saves one covid victim"

That said, like so many things, it's only once things personally affect you do you take a critical look at it. One of my good friend's wife, was an ardent supporter in the beginning and hadn't left her house in 8 weeks last Mar and watched fear porn 8 hrs a day, has done a full 180. What did it was when her 102 yo grandmother had unexpected organ failure, and was given a couple days. They wern't allowed to visit, they weren't allowed a funeral. All they got was a 2 hr drive so that they could spend 10 minutes with the body after she passed. This is despite where I am having some of the lowest Covid rates in North America. I gave it a few weeks, then asked her if her grandmother's body had a mask, and if it counted towards the group limits. One more soul saved.
I naturally recoil at the notion of taking COVID as being akin to the Black Death. The same with SJW talking points. This is a result of having a Father who came from a non-English speaking country, and provided the family with a solid middle class life on blue collar wages.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - Death is part and parcel of life. People who are close with their elders are much more aware of this than others.
I stated before at the onset of the first lockdown, that the lockdown would hurt more than the disease would. Death, and illness, should be discussed sensitively, but cannot be ignored perpetually.

Most elders aged 70-plus, know as a matter-of-fact, that they too shall pass one day, and are thankful for being able to reach their current life stage in good stead. They are aware that they cannot be around forever to mentor, and coach the younger generations. All they can really do is to support them whilst their able to, and hope that their descendents take stock in the advice given.

The pensioners who live on my street are still very active, and live independently. They have regular visitors, and would scoff at the notion that they needed to stay home all the time "for their own good". The notion is ludacris.

I spoke with "Nan" who is 85 this year, during Christmas lunch last year. She still lives independently in the family home, and has her daughter - who checks in her daily, and my uncle living only a street away. When COVID cropped up in conversation, I lightheartedly said to her that she still lives in her own home, and is too young to move to a retirement village. Plus there would be too many old people there. She laughed and replied "That's right. I'm 85, and done pretty well so far". I lightheartedly told her that I already taken annual leave for her 90th birthday, so she had to be there. That sort of encouragement, and support, will do more to help elderly, than socially isolating them.

It is the life in your years, not the years of your life, that truly matter. The more you do, the more you can do. There is no point to living to 100, if it means watching Netflix all day every day.

Not to come across like a "boomer". But if a lot of these leftists, SJW's and nupeople regularly did some actual hard work, they wouldn't have time to be sick!
 

homersheineken

Kingfisher
The winter broke off this weekend and was in the upper 40s so we took the kids to the park to run around and ride their bike. Only about 1/3 of the couple dozen people WERE wearing masks walking through the park.

For the first time since this BS started, my kids played with some random kids (unmasked) in the park. This long cold winter after the even longer year of masks and lockdowns has many people around here reaching a breaking point. My 3 year old did freak out a couple (in their 20s no less) by walking up to them and ... talking to them :oops: They quickly walked around here, clearly freaked out by unmasked savage. These are relatively healthy young people.

I talked to another guy with a dog without a mask for 10-15 minutes that I had seen in the park before. We exchanged names (human, usually just dog names) and I went to shake his hand. It freaked him out a bit and he just did the fist bump (at least it wasn't the elbow thing).

But hey, it's a start. People want a return to real normalcy.
 
I gave it a few weeks, then asked her if her grandmother's body had a mask, and if it counted towards the group limits.

That is quite the question. Normally it would be over the line but in this case completely acceptable and right on target given everything that's going on. I'm curious: was her body wearing mask? I'd believe it if it was that's how stupid things are.
 

Seadog

Kingfisher
That is quite the question. Normally it would be over the line but in this case completely acceptable and right on target given everything that's going on. I'm curious: was her body wearing mask? I'd believe it if it was that's how stupid things are.

Well they were pretty close, so I gave it some time, plus she's come to expect that sort of smartass comment from me. But the one positive thing to come from it, was as I said, it really made her step back and look earnestly at these things and ask "Given the risk to someone who's going to die in a few days, what's the purpose of this rule aside from hurting the family?", and also expand that to other realms.

It's the same thing with the Canadian detention centre for returning air travellers who travelled for recreation. I'm reading reports that they're being transported in blacked out vans, the hotel locations are being kept secret, they're not allowed access to their luggage, hotel room phones have been disabled, and are not allowed to have deliveries dropped off. All these things pose zero risk to anyone, and seem to have no reason beyond "You went against the gov't, so now we're going to intimidate and hurt you as a lesson to others"

I'm definitely more moderate than some on this forum, always took so called conspiracies with a bit of an eye roll and a grain of salt, but when I see what's happening all around, it seems to be more a case of "disobey us, and you will suffer" vs "we want to do what's best for the populous"
 

andy dufresne

Kingfisher
We tested positive by nasal swab test and subsequently tested positive for the antibodies by blood test. We had the common symptoms associated with covid. I've had the regular flu several times. This was very different, especially how you feel it in your lungs. I've actually been much sicker with the regular influenza.
There is/was a weird unusual flu going around. Many people were exposed to it pre last March. It hits the elderly pretty hard but not really any harder than a usual flu. A bunch of folks on this board (including myself) have had it. It's no killer flu and never has been....it was just last years seasonal flu.
 

ball dont lie

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Hired a small moving company. Two blue collar men in their 30s showed up. As soon as they moving started I said "you don't need to wear your masks in my place." Instantly they both took them off and thanked me earnestly. Could be wrong, but here I'm noticing a clear mask divide between white collar soyboys and blue collar men who work with their hands.


The more educated, the more likely to believe propaganda - scientism - new world order - global warming - eating bugs - transhumanism.

Lots of my blue collar type friends think the lockdown, masks, rules are all corrupt government bullshit pushed by a bunch of oppressive assholes.

Educated friends are triple masking and lining up for anal swabbing. The mind virus got to them and used their intellect against them. I saw a good video recently where one of the doctors explained that for people under 24, death from covid is 36 times less likely than dying in a car crash. If millions of young people take the vaccine, their chance of serious problems are higher from the vaccine than from covid.
 

Pelern

Sparrow
Hired a small moving company. Two blue collar men in their 30s showed up. As soon as they moving started I said "you don't need to wear your masks in my place." Instantly they both took them off and thanked me earnestly. Could be wrong, but here I'm noticing a clear mask divide between white collar soyboys and blue collar men who work with their hands.
I had a similar experience when I went to do my Firearms Safety Training courses. For the first one everyone took off their masks once the instructor did and for the second only one person kept their mask on.
 

AntoniusofEfa

Kingfisher
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