Resisting against coronavirus laws

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member

24 GOP states threaten legal action against Biden's 'disastrous' vaccine mandate​

Republican attorneys general (AGs) from 24 states are threatening to take legal action against President Biden's coronavirus vaccine requirement.

The president announced last week that his administration will require employers with more than 100 workers to mandate coronavirus vaccinations among their employees or conduct weekly COVID-19 tests in an effort to slow the spread of the virus.

"The vaccines have helped protect millions of Americans, and there are surely others who could benefit from obtaining this treatment," the AGs write in a letter to Biden exclusively reviewed by Fox News Thursday. "But convincing those who are hesitant to do so would require you to allow room for discussion and disagreement."

"Instead, you have offered the American people flimsy legal arguments, contradictory statements, and threatening directives. It is almost as if your goal is to sow division and distrust, rather than promote unity and the public’s health."

In the letter, they call the mandate "disastrous and counterproductive," saying that the rule "will simply drive further skepticism" about the vaccine and prompt "at least some Americans" to "leave the job market instead of complying."

Republican Attorneys General Association (RAGA) Chairman South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson said in a press release announcing the multistate letter, "We will not tolerate Biden's tyrannical rule. The lines are clear, this is Joe Biden's unlawful agenda versus the American people. We will win this fight and protect the foundational principles that make our country great."

The AGs pledge to "seek every available legal option to hold [Biden] accountable and uphold the rule of law."

The AGs argue that employees who leave their jobs as a result of the requirement will put added strain on "an already-too-tight labor market, burdening companies and (therefore) threatening the jobs of even those who have received a vaccine."

"Worse still, many of those who decide to leave their jobs rather than follow your directive will be essential healthcare workers," they write, citing a New York Times report about an upstate New York hospital that decided to stop delivering babies after six labor and delivery nurses resigned over the state's vaccine mandate.

Hospitals across the country are simultaneously facing staffing shortages and full ICU capacity due to increasing COVID-19 cases, leaving staff overwhelmed.

The attorneys general also argue that Biden's mandate will add to vaccine skepticism, saying the order "suggests that the vaccinated need protection from those who, for whatever personal reason, choose not to or cannot receive a COVID-19 shot" and "fails to recognize natural immunity."
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PDF link to AGs' letter.

The 24 states are as follow:
Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, West Virginia, & Wyoming
 

brotherjimbob

Woodpecker
Again, possibly not exactly the right thread, but just watching this Jeff Berwick video going through 'the secret covenant'...

'they [the masses] must never find out what we have done... for if they do, no man will give us shelter...'

That's where we are...

None of these globalist POS could take a stroll through their home city without getting lynched...

BBC staff can't even leave the building if recognized.

Can you imagine Fauci making it through the night anywhere on the planet without security??

These... Strunz are finished.

EVERYONE knows what they have done. People might not have accepted it yet [normies]... but everyone KNOWS.

The illusion that those who know is a minority is just that... an illusion.

Talk about what you know loudly... because the day is close when all the IDIOTS that have been skipping around in masks and advocating vaxxes will look real, real, real stupid.
 
I think it was Sorel who said that a general strike could potentially result in the restoration of conservative ideals. It will be interesting to see if right-wingers and others apply such tactics of disruption to impede the globovax machine.
 

C-Note

Hummingbird
Gold Member

While I disagree with him on true mass civil disobedience and direct action, a thread on the value of constant, small acts of defiance.

Right now, in many places, merely showing your smiling face to the world is an act of defiance.
I don't agree with him in his saying that mass protests are useless. When people get together in a big crowd, it helps give them a sense of mission, team work, and mutual support. They trade information and network. There's a reason that Australian authorities were busting the doors down of people trying to organize protests over Facebook.
 

Dusty

Peacock
Gold Member

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SimpleMan

Sparrow
Has anyone come across the term 'Conditional Agreement'

The idea is that you agree to something with conditions, when the conditions can't be met, confusion is created as you haven't said no to it. This could be used in the this fallen world I believe in many ways. I have yet to put this in practice though, but I may see the time coming around soon.

Can I see you papers? Yes of course, can you show me how you process this data and which companies deal with it all. Do you have a number for your data protection manager and could you have him call me please? As you don't have these on you right now, I'll go shop and i'd be grateful if you could bring these to me when you can, (edit) otherwise you may be putting me at risk.

"Can you put on your mask?"
"Sure of course, is this because of this thing going around? ah okay, I'll wear one, but as you are giving me medical advice, may I see your medical qualifications please? Happy to do so if you have that.

"While I'm shopping could you please bring me your company policy indicating that I need to wear one. People lie all the time and I want to make sure we're all being truthful and honest."

Again, all theory for me, but it might have legs. First time getting this out my thoughts so maybe have fun creating better ones and sharing them with others and with me too.

Edit: This inverts things back, and puts them on the defence.

As the saying goes, be wise as a serpent, and gentle as a dove.
 
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Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member
Has anyone come across the term 'Conditional Agreement'

The idea is that you agree to something with conditions, when the conditions can't be met, confusion is created as you haven't said no to it. This could be used in the this fallen world I believe in many ways. I have yet to put this in practice though, but I may see the time coming around soon.

Can I see you papers? Yes of course, can you show me how you process this data and which companies deal with it all. Do you have a number for your data protection manager and could you have him call me please? As you don't have these on you right now, I'll go shop and i'd be grateful if you could bring these to me when you can.

"Can you put on your mask?"
"Sure of course, is this because of this thing going around? ah okay, I'll wear one, but as you are giving me medical advice, may I see your medical qualifications please? Happy to do so if you have that.

"While I'm shopping could you please bring me your company policy indicating that I need to wear one. People lie all the time and I want to make sure we're all being truthful and honest."

Again, all theory for me, but it might have legs. First time getting this out my thoughts so maybe have fun creating better ones and sharing them with others and with me too.

Edit: This inverts things back, and puts them on the defence.

As the saying goes, be wise as a serpent, and gentle as a dove.
The problem with the above is that it relies on your target audiences' ability to deal with reason and rationally use logic.

Good luck with that

Wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove is good advice though
 

SimpleMan

Sparrow
The problem with the above is that it relies on your target audiences' ability to deal with reason and rationally use logic.

Good luck with that

Wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove is good advice though

Yep. When I can I'll maybe start a thread to collect data on the practical use of it - which means I have to be an example and use it at some point. There are many pitfalls however, the one you mentioned being a big one. Ask a manager to come find you in the shop and address them, they should have been given training to protect their company.

"As we all know lying and stealing is wrong Mr./Mrs Manager, would you agree? You haven't confirmed you're not lying to me by not showing me x,y,z, and right now you're stealing my time - which is not how we conduct business. Here's my card and number please call me so we can get this settled the proper way when you are ready. Thank you" Say this with love and with no malice or pride. Love your brothers and sisters.

Anything I share is not legal advice.
 
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SimpleMan

Sparrow
Has anyone come across the term 'Conditional Agreement'

The idea is that you agree to something with conditions, when the conditions can't be met, confusion is created as you haven't said no to it. This could be used in the this fallen world I believe in many ways. I have yet to put this in practice though, but I may see the time coming around soon.

Can I see you papers? Yes of course, can you show me how you process this data and which companies deal with it all. Do you have a number for your data protection manager and could you have him call me please? As you don't have these on you right now, I'll go shop and i'd be grateful if you could bring these to me when you can, (edit) otherwise you may be putting me at risk.

"Can you put on your mask?"
"Sure of course, is this because of this thing going around? ah okay, I'll wear one, but as you are giving me medical advice, may I see your medical qualifications please? Happy to do so if you have that.

"While I'm shopping could you please bring me your company policy indicating that I need to wear one. People lie all the time and I want to make sure we're all being truthful and honest."

Again, all theory for me, but it might have legs. First time getting this out my thoughts so maybe have fun creating better ones and sharing them with others and with me too.

Edit: This inverts things back, and puts them on the defence.

As the saying goes, be wise as a serpent, and gentle as a dove.
This is not legal advice :)
 
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