Resisting against coronavirus laws

[Enhanced Eddie]

I don't think it's possible to not have a smart phone anymore. Several of my bank accounts require apps for two factor authentication to log into my account, to make transactions, etc... but I can certainly keep it in a Faraday pouch whenever I'm not doing that.

Take taxi instead of uber. Don't need a camera for selfies, and tinder and social media is garbage anyway. All chat apps work on desktop except for whatsapp, so ditch that one. Dig out your old mp3 player. I think that about covers everything.

 

[BigFellow]

14 Ways to Be Civilly Disobedient in the Face of the Corona Ban

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04...ly-disobedient-in-the-face-of-the-corona-ban/

 

[Foolsgo1d]

We're moving into another stage now. Extending the lockdown across multiple countries this week will put people into a different mindset. Its no longer 3 weeks of do-nothing but potentially 6+ weeks.

We're going to see more people go against the official line out of sheer boredom and with it more police action. The county I am in takes great pleasure in handing out fines and announces it like a medal.

I wonder if the powers that be will try and re-open the breads and circus acts to keep people calm and subdued so they dont go reading up on things they shouldn't and taking action.

 

[A Simple Visitor]

Let's admit the coronavirus is 100% a hoax : either it doesn't exist, or it's not that deadly, or it doesn't impact many people, or it's just propaganda to control us all, whatever the reason.

What will disobeying this "wear a mask" law lead to?
What's the end goal?
When you don't wear a mask, you might have the impression to do something, to "resist", but do you really?

After being fined a few hundreds bucks, will the laws be abolished?
No.
Will the mass of NPCs have taken the red pill on the corona-scam and revolt, all together?
No. (Sincerely, talk to people around you : nobody is questionning the corona propaganda; you won't change their minds easily, and certainly not by refusing to wear a mask)
Will the elites rethink the way they treat this opportunity?
No. (They even steal your money in the process, no reason to change)

So, why act this way?
The powers above us don't care about such actions.
Putting yourself in the spotlight, saying "I won't wear a mask!", won't change their minds, won't change the law.

It's not the mask which should concern you, but the control the state gets over you.
Its ability to track you (via your phone / future potential Bill Gate's vaccination tatoo chip implant) and control your behaviour (can't get out of house / can't meet friends / etc).

I think not wearing a mask is just an egotistical action, to preserve your own pride, lower your bank account...and that's it.
To me, in order to "resist", one has to stay hidden and anonymous.
Wear a mask, don't get fined, don't get put into the "law breaker" list, don't get in the police files.

Then, what do you do if vaccination becomes mandatory?
Or if Bill Gates requires you to implant a tracking chip?
Find a way to stay hidden : maybe some doctor could give you a vaccination certificate, for a few hundred bucks?
Same for the chip.
I'm sure it'll be possible to negociate this kind of deals.

Ending in jail and in debt won't accomplish anything, except preserve your ego.
I guess this message will be seen as sheepish, but let's face it : the elites have the power, not us.
In these conditions, sneakiness is the way, not bravado.
Take care.

 

[Roosh]

Ok, ok. I get it. You're not like them. You believe you're righteous. The Church, who has Authority from God, has told Catholics they can stay home during a Perceived Pandemic. So, is this accepted, or do you point the finger and accuse the person you don't believe has the Authority to make that call?

Fair point, but then what's the line? Obey into the medical gulag? Get vaccinated? Get chipped? Deny Christ?

 

[Gorgiass]

The fact that they want to force vaccines kills the whole vaccine narrative anyway. If the vaccines really work, then how is someone vaccinated at risk because someone else isn't?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4962729/

I was vaccinated for Hep B as a child but was tested before a trip years ago and discovered I have no antibodies for it. So for me to not contract Hep B requires my would-be infector to have been vaccinated (and obviously also to be a vaccine responder, unlike myself). The same is true for tens/hundreds of millions of other people for all sorts of viral diseases.

Will the mass of NPCs have taken the red pill on the corona-scam and revolt, all together?
No. (Sincerely, talk to people around you : nobody is questionning the corona propaganda; you won't change their minds easily, and certainly not by refusing to wear a mask)

Stronger frame wins. It seems like people are starting to get sick of lockdown. I was at a small gathering last weekend, first time going out for non-work in weeks, and was surprised how level-headed people were about it. No one was wearing masks and all were in favor of opening things back up. Obviously this is just anecdotal and polls don't reflect this yet, but enough small discussions of people agreeing on this can lead to a sea change. I have plenty of masks left from work and also refuse to wear them and give the panicking masses reassurance that they're doing the right thing.

I remember my first real time going spelunking, group of friends and I went into a pretty hardcore cave in sweatshirts with handheld flashlights. In the main cavern we ran into a mixed group of hardcore cavers guiding some novices, all dressed up in special suits, headlamps, pads, the works. The novices were friendly enough, the hardcore guys would barely acknowledge us, because we were making them look like fools with their excessive PPE. Many people will feel silly wearing masks and gloves when someone is doing the same thing they are and is calm and healthy, and not dressing for armageddon when their demographic is far more likely to die in a car wreck. Social pressure is a powerful motivator, be the giver, not the receiver.

 

[SilentOne]

Let's admit the coronavirus is 100% a hoax : either it doesn't exist, or it's not that deadly, or it doesn't impact many people, or it's just propaganda to control us all, whatever the reason.

What will disobeying this "wear a mask" law lead to?
What's the end goal?
When you don't wear a mask, you might have the impression to do something, to "resist", but do you really?

After being fined a few hundreds bucks, will the laws be abolished?
No.
Will the mass of NPCs have taken the red pill on the corona-scam and revolt, all together?
No. (Sincerely, talk to people around you : nobody is questionning the corona propaganda; you won't change their minds easily, and certainly not by refusing to wear a mask)
Will the elites rethink the way they treat this opportunity?
No. (They even steal your money in the process, no reason to change)

So, why act this way?
The powers above us don't care about such actions.
Putting yourself in the spotlight, saying "I won't wear a mask!", won't change their minds, won't change the law.

It's not the mask which should concern you, but the control the state gets over you.
Its ability to track you (via your phone / future potential Bill Gate's vaccination tatoo chip implant) and control your behaviour (can't get out of house / can't meet friends / etc).

I think not wearing a mask is just an egotistical action, to preserve your own pride, lower your bank account...and that's it.
To me, in order to "resist", one has to stay hidden and anonymous.
Wear a mask, don't get fined, don't get put into the "law breaker" list, don't get in the police files.

Then, what do you do if vaccination becomes mandatory?
Or if Bill Gates requires you to implant a tracking chip?
Find a way to stay hidden : maybe some doctor could give you a vaccination certificate, for a few hundred bucks?
Same for the chip.
I'm sure it'll be possible to negociate this kind of deals.

Ending in jail and in debt won't accomplish anything, except preserve your ego.
I guess this message will be seen as sheepish, but let's face it : the elites have the power, not us.
In these conditions, sneakiness is the way, not bravado.
Take care.

This is the resisting thread, not the bow down on your knees and cower thread. For those of you who choose the latter, mind shining my combat boots too while you're down there?

We the People are at war with the Government, an unknown entity. They just initiated a world wide attack on the people. There is no backing down. If you're so scared about some silly fines or jail time, find a protesting group near you. They are out there. There is strength in numbers for a just cause. All it takes is mass noncompliance to end this in one day. The elite only have power the People willingly give them.

One single man in Philadelphia got the mandatory mask wearing on public transit overturned, simply by not obeying. He did have to get dragged off the bus by multiple officers first though, but he earned his freedom to continue riding the bus mask free. In the end, they all saw how silly such a rule was after that incident.

 

[John Michael Kane]

Ok, ok. I get it. You're not like them. You believe you're righteous. The Church, who has Authority from God, has told Catholics they can stay home during a Perceived Pandemic. So, is this accepted, or do you point the finger and accuse the person you don't believe has the Authority to make that call?

Fair point, but then what's the line? Obey into the medical gulag? Get vaccinated? Get chipped? Deny Christ?

I get that we should make every effort to protect our freedoms. That being said, as Christians, we should also take care not to inflict harm on others, even if accidentally. There's a scientific case for wearing a mask that doesn't violate Christian principles, as Christian principles aren't at odds with sound science.

That being said, I do think there's a bigger battle to be fought here; namely forced vax, microchipping, digital certificates, etc. Whereas there's no tracking capability or adverse health effects associated with wearing a mask, these other steps are a dark path that we should resist with vigor.

I have friends who are on the fence regarding religion, and if you want to win people over, you have to demonstrate that Christian principles of looking out for the common good (wearing a mask) are not at odds with science (not wearing a mask) compared to draconian forced vax, drones shouting at people from the sky, Gates-issued immunity certificates, etc.

Personally, whenever I go out in public, I wear a mask. I do so not because I'm compelled to do so, but because it might help my fellow man, as well as protect myself. There's still much we do not know about the virus, and error on the side of caution until we've truly beat it back (no guarantees yet of 2nd or 3rd waves), I consider this the prudent and courteous thing to do.

 

[Sherman]

Wearing a mask can't be called scientific. Remember there was a big argument whether the CDC recommend it or not. It is really a policy decision. And they are recommending cloth masks which can't block a virus. So it is mostly symbolic. You are being trained to comply.

 

[Roosh]

JMK: Your argument is reasonable, but I know that complying with face masks will increase the probability of them being successful with more oppressive parts of their plan down the line.

 

[presidentcarter]

Wasn't long ago that you were hearing about burkas and stuff being illegal so that facial recognition could scan everyone. If we'd stayed "normal" we could have eventually seen any kind of identity-blocking masks deemed illegal in public. How the times have changed.

The fact that the CDC and all the "experts" initially touted masks as useless over and over again and now they're trying to make it illegal not to wear one Lol mmmk. Cite their guidance then pretend that you've been too scared to watch the news since then. Complain about all the mask wearers not following guidance.

 

[Easy_C]

In my case I’m happy to do it and I would have worn a mask + sunglasses much more had it been socially acceptable to do so. Thing is the surveillance apparatuses are so dependent on “smart” tech that most bodies don’t really know how to track someone walking around with a face mask on, using cash, and not carrying a cell phone.

The mask thing is stupid from one perspective because they’re pushing a policy that directly abets and aids both criminals and dissidents.

 

[Easy_C]

Semi related topic:

I’m actually more worried about radiation on this one, but does anyone have a good faraday phone holster to recommend?

 

[Roosh]

The mask thing is stupid from one perspective because they’re pushing a policy that directly abets and aids both criminals and dissidents.

Facial recognition software can still identify you with a mask on.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...na-facial-recognition-firm-says-idUSKBN20W0WL

 

[presidentcarter]

The mask thing is stupid from one perspective because they’re pushing a policy that directly abets and aids both criminals and dissidents.

Facial recognition software can still identify you with a mask on.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...na-facial-recognition-firm-says-idUSKBN20W0WL

The article states:

But the system struggles to identify people with both a mask and sunglasses, he said.

“In this situation, all of the key facial information is lost. In such cases recognition is tough,” Huang said.

Easy_C said mask + sunglasses.

PS - in before Team Mask vs. Team No Mask

 

[Enhanced Eddie]

They'll just make that illegal. There's already laws like that on the book actually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-mask_law

 

[John Michael Kane]

Wearing a mask can't be called scientific. Remember there was a big argument whether the CDC recommend it or not. It is really a policy decision. And they are recommending cloth masks which can't block a virus. So it is mostly symbolic. You are being trained to comply.

I do not trust the CDC to give accurate medical information. I own an N95 respirator. When worn properly, I'm significantly decreasing my odds of catching anything, or spreading it to someone else. Even lesser forms of protection are better than no forms of protection. We're talking about probabilities. We should all aim for the gold standard (N 95 / N97 etc.), but barring that, use the next best thing available to you. Even if you aren't overly concerned about dying from the China Virus, this thing is only a few months old. We have no idea what kind of long-term effects it will have on the bodies of people who get infected by it. My point is, there's still far more we do NOT know, than what we do know about it. I error on the side of caution and keep evaluating the data as we go. The CDC, WHO, Bill Gates etc. aren't on my list of trusted sources. My close friends in the medical community who have no incentive to lie to me, plus actually reading of dry medical studies are my preferred methods of trying to ascertain the truth.

JMK: Your argument is reasonable, but I know that complying with face masks will increase the probability of them being successful with more oppressive parts of their plan down the line.

Part of this is cultural. In Asia, wearing a mask during flu season or when pollution is high is part of a way of life. There's an observable protective effect for both of these challenges. In the United States and Europe, wearing a mask isn't part of our culture. We just haven't done it in large numbers.

Think of it another way Roosh: If we push widespread usage of masks, they are the ultimate selling point for getting people back to work. The world desperately needs to put the low-risk people back to work right now. That's for the common good, as well as the individual good. The more protective measures we can encourage (masks, washing hands, etc.) the more ammo we have to push back against the Satanic minions like Gates who would force into something far worse.

In an imperfect world, sometimes taking the imperfect action (masks, good sanitation, etc) is better than the alternative (wait until we have 50% unemployment, Daddy Gates is here to save you!), etc.

 

[paninaro]

I'm not sure I understand the issue. The government can already track you on your cellphone, even if it's not a smartphone. They can track more accurately (like down to the nearest meter) if you have a smartphone, but even with a non-smartphone, they can track you down to about the nearest 6 meters.

As for masks, the government already requires you to wear seatbelts when driving, and helmets on a motorcycle (in most places). In some places, it's even what's known as a primary offense, meaning police can stop you for just that reason, as opposed to needing a more important reason for a traffic stop.

Or are the people who are against masks also not wearing seatbelts and not using cellphones?

Now if this is more from a civil liberties and legal standpoint, I think it would make for an interesting legal challenge. My guess is stores can set any requirements for entrance that do not discriminate against a protected group. It's why you routinely see notices posted outside malls/stores in Texas stating you can't bring a gun onto their property. Private businesses do have some leeway in setting requirements to be able to enter.

What we could see is mask _laws_ are unenforceable, but private businesses will all set rules requiring them anyway. Then the question is spaces owned by the government and open to the public, like libraries, courthouses, etc. I know many of these places ban entering with a gun, so it seems the courts have given them some leeway on setting entrance requirements.

As for vaccinations, there is existing Supreme Court case law on this. Jacobson vs Massachusetts basically says a government can require vaccinations for the common good, however if a person refuses, a penalty is acceptable while forcibly vaccinating them is not. Then Zucht vs King looked at it from the point of schools requiring vaccinations to attend, and upheld it.

I think the potential is there for two classes of citizens -- those who get a vaccine and/or wear a mask (no need for masks if you have been vaccinated?) and those who oppose it. Various establishments like stores and schools will refuse entry for those who oppose those requirements. There's nothing to stop those who oppose it from purchasing products online for delivery, and homeschooling, so that may be the argument about why such rules are not an undue burden. I can definitely see countries requiring vaccinations to enter across their borders as that's already the case now -- many countries require yellow fever vaccination for example.

 

[Easy_C]

Note that’s also a China firm.

When you go in for your drivers license try smiling with your teeth visible and notice that they get mad when you do.

The reason is that it impairs facial recognition if the reference photo has that. I’m sure at some highly classified level there IS software that can do things like recognize you by gait but most cameras aren’t anywhere’s near that level and struggle to recognize people with a large beard let alone a mask.

 

[Troller]

A family member liberal journalist in NY just posted a fire Fauci petition on facebook.ahahaha. Reading the comments now of her liberal friends asking if she read what she posted. ahahahaha. MAGAAA. Fuck liberals.

Liberals are happy with any policies until it hurts them. And this China virus crisis did this well. Unlike the migrants which don´t reach elite areas. Only affect working class. At least that´s what they think.

You don´t have to do much. They´ve overplayed their hand. If Gates & Co. are smart they will backtrack. If stupid. Then they´re fucked. Liberals are angry. And know Trump wasn´t perfect in dealing with this crisis. But alternative is much worse.

Lucifer also fell because he thought he could play god. This cunts will also fail. Only god has full control. And God gave the power to the people. Saying elitists are in full control is luciferian talk.

I was talking with my eight year old at dinner and asked him what he thought of the chinese virus. He said it´s bad killing people. I asked where did it come from: he´s response China. So if it was in China why did we let it get to us? Because we are useless. I asked him again: We are useless??? His answer: No. The government is useless. I was proud.