Resisting against coronavirus laws

[eradicator]

From what I can tell the normies still love Fauci for the most part. People are still saying things like "I love how Dr Fauci is there to correct Donald Trump" etc.

If that is changing, then great. But I haven't seen any evidence of it yet, but I'm in nyc and stuck in a liberal bubble.

 

[John Michael Kane]

From what I can tell the normies still love Fauci for the most part. People are still saying things like "I love how Dr Fauci is there to correct Donald Trump" etc.

If that is changing, then great. But I haven't seen any evidence of it yet, but I'm in nyc and stuck in a liberal bubble.

Well, you are stuck in a liberal bubble only if you choose to stay there. :idea:

I used to live in the Bay Area, so I know what you mean when you're talking about leftist hivemind groupthink. :tard:

 

[Troller]

Here´s the petition:

https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-t...ffb1bcf6b0&utm_content=fht-21461867-en-us:v10

ahahahaha

 

[Mountaineer]

Ok, ok. I get it. You're not like them. You believe you're righteous. The Church, who has Authority from God, has told Catholics they can stay home during a Perceived Pandemic. So, is this accepted, or do you point the finger and accuse the person you don't believe has the Authority to make that call?

Fair point, but then what's the line? Obey into the medical gulag? Get vaccinated? Get chipped? Deny Christ?

God gave us free will and critical thinking so that we could choose between good or evil on our own. If we suspect what is being forced upon us now to be a satanic agenda I think we should not subscribe to any part of it otherwise we start dealing with Satan. Remember the article on dreams you recommended?

In fact he teaches that, even if we were to reject dreams coming from God, for fear that they might be from the devil and we could be deceived, this is a good thing. God will not be angry with us in that case, because He sees that we are being careful.

 

[Thomas More]

There's a protest scheduled for this Sunday in Denver to do a gridlock around the Capitol like the one in Michigan.

The Facebook page for this event has a large number of scathing posts saying this protest is stupid as hell. There is a lot of popular support for extending the lockdown a long time.

I will be attending the protest. I was in favor of the shutdowns based on information at the time, such as the situation in Italy. The numbers in NYC look pretty bad too. 1:725 of NYC has already died, and I expect this will get to 1:300 or worse. It would have been worse with no social distancing or lockdown. If numbers like this had happened nation wide, it would have been pretty bad.

However, now that we're hitting the peak, I think we need to put pressure on the government to end the lockdown. They would drag it out for years if they could. They need to see strong pressure to open up immediately, with massive protests, and recall petitions, so they know to wrap these restrictions up ASAP.

There has to be some trade-off between letting the general populace be free, and avoiding deaths. It can't all be on the side of minimizing deaths and eliminating freedom. The current restrictions have gone on long enough, and it's time to roll them back.

The government has a lot of support for extending the lockdowns. They need to feel as much pressure as possible on the other side.

 

[Douglas Quaid]

As for masks, the government already requires you to wear seatbelts when driving, and helmets on a motorcycle (in most places). In some places, it's even what's known as a primary offense, meaning police can stop you for just that reason, as opposed to needing a more important reason for a traffic stop.

Or are the people who are against masks also not wearing seatbelts and not using cellphones?

It's absolutely idiotic that we're legally required to wear seatbelts or helmets on motorcycles. This is an individual's choice and should not be up to the State. The State and their enforcers love it though because they collect fines, use it as an excuse to pull people over and find probable cause, etc. They love that power.

Now obviously wearing a seatbelt in a car or helmet on a motorcycle is the smart thing to do, but that's not the point. It boggles my mind that people don't understand that, or don't care. Just keep giving up more and more because Daddy government knows best. And the State is never satisfied.

 

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Wearing a mask can't be called scientific. Remember there was a big argument whether the CDC recommend it or not. It is really a policy decision. And they are recommending cloth masks which can't block a virus. So it is mostly symbolic. You are being trained to comply.

The only reason why we were initially told to not wear masks was to cover up the shameful fact A) that we had no masks, and the even more shameful fact B) that we were unable to produce any masks.

It's not a policy issue, it's a saving-face issue.

 

[Mountaineer]

I don't care. If the narrative wants us to wear masks we should give them a nice, big FU.

 

[Gradient]

Semi related topic:

I’m actually more worried about radiation on this one, but does anyone have a good faraday phone holster to recommend?

Plain aluminum foil will stop all signals.

 

[Dr. Howard]

I emailed my local school board trustees asking them to put the debate of a property/school tax rebate on for property owners on the next meeting agenda because schools are closed for the rest of the year.

They sure got fired up, I got 5 emails back in about an hour. 3 from 'administrators' who assured me that people at the schools are still working.

 

[Hypno]

Semi related topic:

I’m actually more worried about radiation on this one, but does anyone have a good faraday phone holster to recommend?

Plain aluminum foil will stop all signals.

Not particularly convenient, but an old microwave is a particularly robust Farraday cage. It does not need to work, just needs a door that still closes securely.

 

[Tenerife]

Ok, ok. I get it. You're not like them. You believe you're righteous. The Church, who has Authority from God, has told Catholics they can stay home during a Perceived Pandemic. So, is this accepted, or do you point the finger and accuse the person you don't believe has the Authority to make that call?

Fair point, but then what's the line? Obey into the medical gulag? Get vaccinated? Get chipped? Deny Christ?

1 Peter 2

"13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 15 For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people. 16 Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as God’s slaves. 17 Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.

18 Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. 19 For it is commendable if someone bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because they are conscious of God. 20 But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. 21 To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps."

 

[Leonard D Neubache]

Ok, ok. I get it. You're not like them. You believe you're righteous. The Church, who has Authority from God, has told Catholics they can stay home during a Perceived Pandemic. So, is this accepted, or do you point the finger and accuse the person you don't believe has the Authority to make that call?

Fair point, but then what's the line? Obey into the medical gulag? Get vaccinated? Get chipped? Deny Christ?

I'm not an expert in these fields but I think that just because the various churches choose not to force their flock into a position of direct rebellion against the ruling authorities it doesn't mean that individuals among that flock are obligated to be as submissive.

I mean, really, what are the church fathers supposed to do, issue a call for mass disobedience in a time of perceived peril?

My sense is that they are obligated to protect the church while the faithful are obligated to protect the faith. I will have far more serious concerns about the allegiances of the church leaders if grass-roots protests among the Catholic and the Orthodox disciples are met with calls from those leaders to stand down, especially if it's already becoming clear that the viral threat is quite limited.

They have to keep the lights on, and it would be wrong of them to draft the entirety of their flock into some kind of insurrection. That doesn't mean that the individual members of the flock cannot themselves choose rebellion in their own time.

 

[Mountaineer]

Especially if it's rebellion against Satan.

 

[Gradient]

Semi related topic:

I’m actually more worried about radiation on this one, but does anyone have a good faraday phone holster to recommend?

Plain aluminum foil will stop all signals.

Not particularly convenient, but an old microwave is a particularly robust Farraday cage. It does not need to work, just needs a door that still closes securely.

Well, no. I suggest giving it a try.

1. Place phone in microwave, close door, call phone - It rings.
2. Completely wrap phone in 1 sq/ft aluminum foil, call it - nothing happens.

When you pull the phone out of the foil you will even see that it has lost its connection to the network.

 

[eradicator]

Eh, pick your battles. I don't mind putting on a mask to go in a grocery store.

People crap on these workers all day already. I'm not out to make their jobs more difficult, I just want to get my food and get it home and into the freezer before it melts.

 

[Enoch]

Went to a grocery store yesterday without a mask. Small Mexican run grocery-store in the "mexicantown" part of my urban sin-hole. Many neckbeards buy groceries here.

Got a lot of nasty looks from the neckbeards. However at check out I thanked the employee (middle-aged white lady) for the keeping the store stocked and clean and tipped her a cool $20 with a big no-mask smile.

People just need to be appreciated.

That said at some point wearing a mask could be a self-defense mechanism in the same way NOT wearing a MAGA hat is self-defense.

 

[Zep]

Semi related topic:

I’m actually more worried about radiation on this one, but does anyone have a good faraday phone holster to recommend?

Plain aluminum foil will stop all signals.

Not particularly convenient, but an old microwave is a particularly robust Farraday cage. It does not need to work, just needs a door that still closes securely.

Well, no. I suggest giving it a try.

1. Place phone in microwave, close door, call phone - It rings.
2. Completely wrap phone in 1 sq/ft aluminum foil, call it - nothing happens.

When you pull the phone out of the foil you will even see that it has lost its connection to the network.

That's right. I did this last Saturday, wrap the phone in two layers of foil, and then try to call it with another phone, it'll go to voicemail.

 

[presidentcarter]

What are you all trying to accomplish with the faraday cage business?

If you have a smartphone with a gps and it connects via cell tower or wifi at any point, you are leeching data. I'm no expert but it would be really hard to convince me otherwise.

You'd be better off just leaving it at home when you go out so at least you won't give up location data aside from where the phone sits.

Save your foil for your baked potatoes.

Edit: Is this about the microphone listening to you no matter what you do? That's the only angle I can see where this may make sense.

 

[questor70]

If you want to render your phone inert, just turn the thing off. Remove the battery if you're paranoid it's not really off. There's no law that you have to have your phone on 24/7. People treat cell phones too much like an extension of their bodies as it is.