Resisting against coronavirus laws

Here in Russia (Moscow) there are mask requirements and notices on shop doors etc. but about 80-90% of people aren't wearing masks and shop staff and customers don't care or stare if you don't wear one. I've only heard of trouble on buses with some fines handed out for not wearing a mask, but it's rare. The government also did away with the initial requirement of wearing masks in the street and parks.

The Dutch seem to be on the right path - "There Is No Proven Effectiveness" - Netherlands Refuses To Mandate Mask Wearing In Public
In public is good - they have zero mask enforcements in the Netherlands just like Denmark, Sweden or Iceland. They focus so much on bloody Sweden (which changed how they treat long-term care home residents with covid diagnosis - only giving them morphine even if they had a flu-cold-pneumonia which resulted in an uptick of deaths) while forgetting other big nations which did not do much except for some token 4 weeks, then a complete elimination of all measures - Denmark, Iceland etc.
 

Sisyphus

Robin
And of course the coordinated media response is completely predictable.

"The Netherlands dithers..."

"Dutch government dragging its feet..."

"Dutch position on face masks is confusing and damages trust..."

This is one is my favorite - "Majority of people in the Netherlands want face masks to be mandatory."

How about wear a mask if you want to wear one, and stay out of public if you're too terrified of the killer virus. A very typical SJW viewpoint - let's impose my beliefs on everyone else because I'm right and there's no room for discussion or dissent.

It's all pretty transparent and one needn't even check the headlines to know what they'll say.
 

BigFellow

Sparrow
Ditching my smartphone is something I’m seriously considering. I remember Roosh saying he was also thinking about doing it.

One issue is that, where I live, they make it hard to switch tariffs to a call/sms plan. They basically don’t offer such plans now. Every package has unlimited internet and calls, but even on that plan you have to pay for sms messages.

It would be nice though to drop the phone in a lake or somewhere and forget about it.
I have actually gone further than ditching my smartphone, and have stopped carrying a personal cell phone outright. The cell phone radiation and potential for tracking is still there even with a cell phone that's not a smart phone. But I still think carrying a flip phone is better than carrying a smart phone around.
 

AnonymousBosch

Crow
Gold Member
When will you begin to resist? What is too much for you personally to comply with? How do all these arguments in this thread not apply to whatever that line in the sand is?
If you judge with the Psyche (the animal soul), you will make choices based on Sensible Emotions, which can be demonically-influenced. Meaning, you're not an accurate judge of where that line in the sand is. That requires killing your own ego and detaching from the world enough to start seeing through the Pneuma (the spiritual soul), where each and every situation has a greater moral complexity and you realise the danger of making rash judgments. This can be very quickly achieved by using every situation Providence presents with you to crucify your own ego, such as wearing a mask, which isn't contradicting the natural law, which is where you would 'draw the line'.

Thinking you're heroically-resisting a minor inconvenience risks arrogance, pride and demonic influence. Look at anyone who calls themselves 'the Resistance' on Twitter. If you want to risk contracting the form of demonic oppression known as The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, go right ahead. It's possible the whole concept of American Rugged Individualism was always pride-based social programming guaranteeing the traditionally-minded would never collectivize and organize against Judeo-Masonic goals, such as separation of church and state.

The thing is, people willingly participate in the system of oppression every day: use Paypal? But things through Amazon? Watch Netflix? View pornography? Watch the NFL? Follow Q? Buy a MAGA hat? Use social media? Support Israel? Watch CNN or Fox News? Play a violent video game? Praise Kek? Get a home loan? Pay tax?

You're already submissive and effectively masked, but a physical representation of a mask makes people lose it. Who knew?

 

La Águila Negra

Kingfisher
In public is good - they have zero mask enforcements in the Netherlands just like Denmark, Sweden or Iceland. They focus so much on bloody Sweden (which changed how they treat long-term care home residents with covid diagnosis - only giving them morphine even if they had a flu-cold-pneumonia which resulted in an uptick of deaths) while forgetting other big nations which did not do much except for some token 4 weeks, then a complete elimination of all measures - Denmark, Iceland etc.
That's not true. Masks are mandatory on public transportation

People on their way to the beach yesterday


The mayors of Amsterdam and Rotterdam are also likely to go ahead with enforcing a mandatory mask policy (even if there is no national law or judicial precedent - which makes it completely illegal and unlawful)

There is a very strong push towards the mandatory wearing of masks both indoors and at crowded spots outdoors. I am 90 percent sure it's going to succeed. The groundwork is being laid now

The only problem is that the head of the RIVM (Dutch equivalent of the CDC) has put himself in a very vulnerable position by continuously stating that masks don't work and are silly. So this man (Jaap van Dissel) is risking losing his (and the RIVM's) credibility and pride if he decides to bend
 
Yeah - they have them on public transport - a location that is relatively easy to control and fine the population.

Funnily enough Denmark became the most liberal of the new dictatorship states with only recommending mask wearing.

But still - almost no one wears masks in supermarkets - that should tell you something when the same people are wearing them in public transport. Belgium meanwhile has begun to shut down again with police hours implemented. This will by the way never go away.
 

Dr. Howard

Peacock
Gold Member
Governor of Wisconsin passed a statewide mask law after being btfo by supreme court on a lockdown 2 months ago. My local county already declined a mask law locally. Local sherrif's office said they aren't going to enforce the state mask law and others are already challenging it in court again.
 
My state made it mandatory last week. I’ve avoided any public place other than work (which s**t just hit the fan there). That being said, I went in three different public places today, and no one enforced the rule. One gas station the clerk wasn’t even wearing one, but signs were posted. I’m glad to see we’re not crazy yet!
 
Here masks are mandatory on public transport. I've also noticed something that bothers me and that is the fact that I find myself getting used to wearing the mask.

On one hand if I'm comfortable that's good but on the other hand it's the acceptance and expectation of the new normal and that's not good when there are the ideas of vaccination and surveillance around.

I'm comfy, yet I should be more concerned.
 

paninaro

Kingfisher
On one hand if I'm comfortable that's good but on the other hand it's the acceptance and expectation of the new normal and that's not good when there are the ideas of vaccination and surveillance around.

I'm comfy, yet I should be more concerned.
Maybe you have a calling as a surgeon. They have to wear masks for hours on end during surgery. The pay is good too.
 
Governor of Wisconsin passed a statewide mask law after being btfo by supreme court on a lockdown 2 months ago. My local county already declined a mask law locally. Local sherrif's office said they aren't going to enforce the state mask law and others are already challenging it in court again.
Thanks for the heads up...I still have connections in the state and was planning a visit next month. I was a bit surprised by their reaction given they hadn't been running up numbers like other areas.

Their travel advice looks like they think its Mad Max...

Wisconsin Travel Recommendations
 
Resisting against the mask-wearing in the West can get you some interactions with the normies or at worst a fine by the cops, in China this will get you full public humiliation reminiscent of the Mao cultural revolutions:




The Chinese are truly the elite's favorite serfs - smart and yet so obedient. Fauci and Gates are looking longingly at the scenes above from China and thinking: 'I wish we could crack their skulls like that in the US too.'
 

Johnny Rico

Sparrow
I am still trying to wrap my head around how people, Americans in particular despite the spirit of American rebellion, are so intense on policing each other on muzzles. If I walked in to a store and saw a man in a thong with a dildo on his head I wouldn't tell him to put clothes on... I'd leave. It's not my business. People are extremely foul mouthed and angry about it... its like they're anonymously shitposting in real life.
 

Johnny Rico

Sparrow
The gym owners from NJ are kicking it up a notch, quite literally because they kicked in the boards the state put on their doors, and are making the news. I find great irony in the fact the owner's name is Ian Smith (He was the rebellious leader of Rhodesia who fought against the communist invasion in the 60s/70s in what is now shithole Zimbabwe).


10/10 WWOT (Would Work Out There)
 
I am still trying to wrap my head around how people, Americans in particular despite the spirit of American rebellion, are so intense on policing each other on muzzles. If I walked in to a store and saw a man in a thong with a dildo on his head I wouldn't tell him to put clothes on... I'd leave. It's not my business. People are extremely foul mouthed and angry about it... its like they're anonymously shitposting in real life.
They have been programmed to hate their neighbor, and believe everything their new gods on TV and shoacial media say. Years and years of browbeating into submission of the (((system))) has fostered a loveless, selfish, and fearful existence in most of the people, normies too.
 
They have been programmed to hate their neighbor, and believe everything their new gods on TV and shoacial media say. Years and years of browbeating into submission of the (((system))) has fostered a loveless, selfish, and fearful existence in most of the people, normies too.
In addition it's based on the rather weak, but relentlessly repeated herd immunity as well as the theory of infectious diseases. In that logic it's not enough if you wear your mask or you get vaccinated. The full protection is only enacted if everyone wears a mask and everyone is forcibly vaccinated. Otherwise vaccines don't work just as masks don't work:


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But even if you use common sense logic, then it does not really make much sense why an unvaccinated person would endanger a vaccinated one. They started out with herd immunity saying that 66% would have to have it, but vaccination rates were never 100% and things were fine. Many countries had 50% in communist states or 75% in countries like Switzerland up until the 1990s - based on that logic they should have all died of polio and pertussis, but strangely Switzerland was more healthy than 98% vaccinated countries. And by that logic - even one unvaccinated person on earth could kill the other 99,9999% of the world because he would have that wild covid in him. Herd immunity is illogical.
 

Bolly

Pelican
I am still trying to wrap my head around how people, Americans in particular despite the spirit of American rebellion, are so intense on policing each other on muzzles.
We're also the country that had bogus witch trials. And this has never really stopped, just taken on different names. Something deep in the American psyche makes men and women think he's more morally virtuous to his fellow man and has the right to call each other out for being less virtuous or for being a witch. I attribute it to our religious pilgrim roots and the ideas to which the first settlers brought. I think the key to understand a nation and what makes a people tick is looking at its beginning. We're a nation full of people who I believe fundamentally want to do good, and do what's right, and to stop their perception of evil. Which at the end of the day is an admirable quality for a people of a nation. And because of the freedom we have people have it in them to actually go about trying to influence others to their perception of what "good" is. Only problem is, no one can agree on what is good and what is evil anymore. Hysteria ensues.
 
We're also the country that had bogus witch trials. And this has never really stopped, just taken on different names. Something deep in the American psyche makes men and women think he's more morally virtuous to his fellow man and has the right to call each other out for being less virtuous or for being a witch. I attribute it to our religious pilgrim roots and the ideas to which the first settlers brought. I think the key to understand a nation and what makes a people tick is looking at its beginning. We're a nation full of people who I believe fundamentally want to do good, and do what's right, and to stop their perception of evil. Which at the end of the day is an admirable quality for a people of a nation. And because of the freedom we have people have it in them to actually go about trying to influence others to their perception of what "good" is. Only problem is, no one can agree on what is good and what is evil anymore. Hysteria ensues.
Burning witches was happening in Europe until the early 19th century - the US stopped doing that long long before. However the puritan Christian mindset was prevalent to some degree, but at least the perception of morals and social unity was based on Christian and European ethics. Other than that I would say that Americans were far more freedom loving. The policing streak only started in recent years - this stasi and bolshevik enforcement mentality is a recent phenomenon utterly unseen in previous times. You can subvert any nation if you are at it long enough and your elite is participating in the endeavor.
 

Pendleton

Pigeon
I am still trying to wrap my head around how people, Americans in particular despite the spirit of American rebellion, are so intense on policing each other on muzzles. If I walked in to a store and saw a man in a thong with a dildo on his head I wouldn't tell him to put clothes on... I'd leave. It's not my business. People are extremely foul mouthed and angry about it... its like they're anonymously shitposting in real life.
I am an American expat and whenever I return to the US it occurs to me that Americans are defined by (i) high aggression and (ii) low IQ. These 2 traits are put in the service of ensuring everyone obeys the rules of a ghetto-like anti-achievement ethic (don't be too self-respecting, smart, fit, good looking, well dressed, etc.). The men still show some restraint because of fear of violence but the women have gone completely feral when it comes to harassing strangers.
Americans like to think of themselves as the freest people in the world but they are in fact the most conformest and bovine I've encountered, even compared to the Asians.
 
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