Resisting against coronavirus laws

RomikJan

Sparrow
Currently in Italy. Was able to get away with not wearing a mask in the UK with literally nobody questioning me about it, ever. Here it's a different story. Masks are compulsory almost everywhere indoors and I have been told multiple times to put one one. It's not a hill I want to die on, and because I cannot and will not have convoluted conversations multiple times per day with a store clerk (who is talking to me, muffled and with broken English) about a medical exemption I may have, putting one on is the best course of action. The level of hysteria here is even worse than the UK.

I mean, I was at my hotel's (very small) restaurant where everybody is eating (without a mask) but I was chastised about not wearing one by a member of staff while I was at the buffet table. It seems the virus takes a break while you're eating, It is all stark raving bonkers.
Yup its like they got covid on walkie talkies, and radio over yo covid time out bro , have to lead this couple out of the restaurant..alright time in time in .
 
That line jumped out at me. I can just imagine them stating "this is our planet, we rule this thing, they are lucky we even let them live!"

About masks, has there been indisputable proof that they are ineffective provided by *several* studies? and serious studies, anything from Alex Jones, for example, whether true or not, will be dismissed as the findings of a crackpot.

I keep hearing we are to wear them to protect others, that droplets are contained, and the other comeback I hear alot is "Surgeons wear them all day, and they're not suffering from a lack of oxygen" when masks are considered bacteria collectors that harm them person wearing them.

About the excess mortality rates, a doctor on a local radio show brought this up and stated, 'sure, maybe the excess death rates are nothing but living with a compromised immune system, or having a hole drilled into your trachial tube ( he actually stated this ) because of Covid 19 is something you want to take seriously".

The problem I think we're all having is not SEEING anyone we know with this issue. I personally don't know one person who's got it except for a couple of forum members. I haven't seen pictures of local hospitals with overrun ICU's, but I don't see why a local doctor on the radio would lie about about this either, it would be incredibly easy to disprove his claims. So, what's going on?
$$$

Patient dies of cancer, pneumonia and Covid. Hospital gets more for listing the death as Covid. Which one do you think they will pick?

same as climate change scientists. They aren’t going to get research grants and accolades telling people climate change is normal and always has been. No they need billions and award ceremonies to study it further.
 

paninaro

Kingfisher
Anyone that discriminates against an individual for medical or religious reasons can be held personally liable outside of the protection of the business. I'm of the mind that anyone that supports this tyranny has to have their feet held to the fire. Give them a hard time, put pressure on them to do the right thing, file lawsuits against them, take videos of them and post them on social media, and generally make it hard on them.
The ADA specifically exempts employees from personal liability if it's an ADA-covered dispute. However, some states do allow personal liability claims to proceed at the state level, for a violation of state laws.

I'm not sure how effective it would be to sue some minimum-wage employee anyway. What do you get if you win? Their Xbox and a 1992 Saturn with a dent in the fender and peeling paint?
 
Went to a department store this evening to buy new undershirts to wear beneath my Sunday best tomorrow. The enforcer at the front asks, "sir, do you have a mask?!" "No, I do not," I replied, which inspired the gentleman behind me to not put his on, either. Saw a few other non-masked shoppers in there. All men who were shopping alone. No one else gave me flak, not even the cashier.
 

Johnny Rico

Woodpecker
I don't think there is one gun/local sporting good store in America that enforces mask rules. In fact almost all discourage them. Even if you are anti-gun they are refreshing places to go and hang out with normal dudes.
That is not true in the Northeast. A gun store is the ONLY place I will wear a mask and I wear it without protest as a pro 2A American. The government is looking for any excuse to shut these places down. Everyone knows its bullshit but gun stores need to tread lightly right now and I would never do anything to put them at risk. I make an appointment and am in and out in in 10 minutes. 5.56 running $120 for 100 round cases sucks though.
 

andy dufresne

Woodpecker
That is not true in the Northeast. A gun store is the ONLY place I will wear a mask and I wear it without protest as a pro 2A American. The government is looking for any excuse to shut these places down. Everyone knows its bullshit but gun stores need to tread lightly right now and I would never do anything to put them at risk. I make an appointment and am in and out in in 10 minutes. 5.56 running $120 for 100 round cases sucks though.
You and I live in different parts of the NE. I've been to a bunch across northern NE and none require them. I could imagine southern NE to have this issue though.
 
I went to a fiesta in Mexico last week. There were 14 people and nobody even mentioned face masks. I wonder how much of this law enforcement is nothing more than a product of the anglo world’s typically oversized authoritarian anal sphincter at work.
Oddly, most of the Mexicans in SoCal meekly comply with the mask rules (they're not laws). One exception I saw yesterday was a church group in a park congregating in close quarters--but a trend that transcends races is that the more religious* you are, the less you adhere to VirusCult.

*Novus Ordo Catholicism excepted--but it's debatable if they are even religious at all.
 

Dr. Howard

Peacock
Gold Member
Currently in Italy. Was able to get away with not wearing a mask in the UK with literally nobody questioning me about it, ever. Here it's a different story. Masks are compulsory almost everywhere indoors and I have been told multiple times to put one one. It's not a hill I want to die on, and because I cannot and will not have convoluted conversations multiple times per day with a store clerk (who is talking to me, muffled and with broken English) about a medical exemption I may have, putting one on is the best course of action. The level of hysteria here is even worse than the UK.

I mean, I was at my hotel's (very small) restaurant where everybody is eating (without a mask) but I was chastised about not wearing one by a member of staff while I was at the buffet table. It seems the virus takes a break while you're eating, It is all stark raving bonkers.
In Wisconsin, there is also a mask exemption if you are eating or drinking...so I said to my wife...well I guess if you walk around with a bottle of water in your hand you can say that you are drinking. If you are at a bar, always have a drink in your hand.
 

DenizenJane

Sparrow
I don't think there is one gun/local sporting good store in America that enforces mask rules. In fact almost all discourage them. Even if you are anti-gun they are refreshing places to go and hang out with normal dudes.
Same. The think the real reason is that both gun and pawn stores are

1. places that would ask for more more I.D depending on what you are trying to buy 2. targets for thefts/heists

Forcing everyone to dress like a burglar when they go shopping rubs level-headed store owners the wrong way. In a "free city" in good ol' flyover country I saw a sign directly outside a place that said "If you are wearing a mask, please remove sunglasses and/or hat".

I don't know if an previous 'incident' prompted that sign, but its evidently beginning to be a security issue.
 

Johnny Rico

Woodpecker
You and I live in different parts of the NE. I've been to a bunch across northern NE and none require them. I could imagine southern NE to have this issue though.
Based on your username I assume you're in Maine. ME NH VT are pretty based. Even Vermont, despite it being Bernieland, is based.

Vermont is a rare circumstance where socialism works. Taxes are reasonable, real estate cheap, and they love their guns. Reason? Low population density. People hold each other accountable.
 

Dr. Howard

Peacock
Gold Member
You and I live in different parts of the NE. I've been to a bunch across northern NE and none require them. I could imagine southern NE to have this issue though.
correct, varies by locale. My local gun store + range in Wisconsin had Don Jr. stop in for a campaign visit. No masks. They also made up entertaining signs like the ones that businesses post that say "no weapons in this establishment, please leave them in your car" but
Based on your username I assume you're in Maine. ME NH VT are pretty based. Even Vermont, despite it being Bernieland, is based.

Vermont is a rare circumstance where socialism works. Taxes are reasonable, real estate cheap, and they love their guns. Reason? Low population density. People hold each other accountable.
and low diversity....and maybe exemptions from having women in positions of power? Socalist/cooperative living worked just fine in northern WI and MN when it was all norwegians and swedes and then again north of minnesota when it was all swedes and finlanders, it even seemed to work when it was finlanders and italians. West of Northern Ontario in Manitoba it was pretty much straight up communism in some places populated by german and ukranian farmers yet those places did not collapse.

Now? They are democrat strongholds, established in the same pattern of first the women's rights, then the gay rights, then the hate speech, then the importing or babying of a criminal underclass.
 

paninaro

Kingfisher
and low diversity....and maybe exemptions from having women in positions of power? Socalist/cooperative living worked just fine in northern WI and MN when it was all norwegians and swedes and then again north of minnesota when it was all swedes and finlanders, it even seemed to work when it was finlanders and italians. West of Northern Ontario in Manitoba it was pretty much straight up communism in some places populated by german and ukranian farmers yet those places did not collapse.
The New England states are some of the "whitest" in the US, but also some of the oldest. The young people are leaving, and not many are moving in. Maybe that means more job opportunities if it's all old and retired people there?
 

FactusIRX

Woodpecker
I go to the gym to roll and fight, and it’s hilarious. You’re literally less than a feet from another guy, trying to yank his sweaty leg as his drills his elbows into your chest, and neither of you are wearing masks. In fact, no one is wearing a mask, despite there being over 70 people in a confined area, all rolling and sweating. You go next door to the supermarket, and you better put on your mask! Completely non sensical.
 

Atom89

Sparrow
Here in the UK, you will get a 200 pound fine for not putting on a mask. And there is a curfew set in place for pubs, restaurants now to stop operating before 10pm.
 
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