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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GermanicBroccoli" data-source="post: 1519467" data-attributes="member: 23109">Lutherans reject consubstantiation for the same reason they reject transubstantiation; as philosophical speculation. I read an article by Sproul yesterday about the different views on the Eucharist, in which he calls the Lutheran doctrine consubstantiation, just to say in the next sentence, that it should be respected that Lutherans reject that term. I often find such sneaky punches in Calvinist writings.Does Liguori tell us who was right on predestination, the Dominican Thomists, who taught unconditional election, or the Jesuit Molinists? Isn't it odd, that there are several Marian dogmas, but no dogmatical teaching on predestination?</blockquote>