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<blockquote data-quote="GermanicBroccoli" data-source="post: 1519477" data-attributes="member: 23109">But we have Trinitarian and Christological dogmas, although these are mysteries. The Eucharist is a mystery and we have dogmas on it. These are all mysteries beyond our understanding in its absolute natures.Calvin's doctrine is not that of Aquinas, who both believed in unconditional election, and Calvinists and Lutherans also differ on predestination, while both affirming unconditional election. Lutherans and Calvinists have dogmatical doctrines on this issue. Election is a matter that is linked to soteriology and therefore there should be a dogma of it or at least the decision, if it is conditional or unconditional. My opinion is, the reason why there is no dogma is, because there are canonized saints and blessed who contradict each other on this matter. Blaise Pascal had a sense for this and who were his enemies? The Jesuits. (The J are behind everything.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GermanicBroccoli, post: 1519477, member: 23109"] But we have Trinitarian and Christological dogmas, although these are mysteries. The Eucharist is a mystery and we have dogmas on it. These are all mysteries beyond our understanding in its absolute natures. Calvin's doctrine is not that of Aquinas, who both believed in unconditional election, and Calvinists and Lutherans also differ on predestination, while both affirming unconditional election. Lutherans and Calvinists have dogmatical doctrines on this issue. Election is a matter that is linked to soteriology and therefore there should be a dogma of it or at least the decision, if it is conditional or unconditional. My opinion is, the reason why there is no dogma is, because there are canonized saints and blessed who contradict each other on this matter. Blaise Pascal had a sense for this and who were his enemies? The Jesuits. (The J are behind everything.) [/QUOTE]

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