Rick & Morty: A Modern Tale Of An Alcoholic And An Incipient Beta

Hannibal

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How has the second season held up to the first? The only episode of season 2 I saw was the first.

I'd give it a 4 out of 5.
 

Jukes

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I like how certain stuff from the first season comes up in the second season. Coherent plot. Such as Rick saying God is not real. Have to take the bandaid off sooner or later. In the very first episode of the 2nd season have him trying to rapidly fix the time problem from the final episode off the 1st season. Deep down he care about humanity as he sacrifice himself for Morty and pray for God. To the last time rift when he comes through, he instantly stop praying and curse God. Also note how Summer and Jerry are getting more involve with the adventures with Summer seeking for approval while Jerry attempt to meddle in to ensure his manhood. Beth and Jerry marriage is like an obvious riddle to everyone. The trapped alien in the basement even pointed it out. Funny as hell. The best thing is that Morty is starting to defy Rick orders. Sure he create as many problems as Rick, but he is getting there.
 

CactusCat589

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Even though it's impossible to recapture the sheer magic and wonder of the first International Cable episode, I thought the sequel to it held up very well in terms of the individual sketches/commercials. Adventures of Stealy, Funny Songs, Plumbuses, Eyeholes, Lil' Bits, Jan Quadrant Vincent 16, and Octopus-Man were all amazing. But part of what made Rixty Minutes so incredible was how completely unexpected it was in addition to the sketch hilariousness, and the B-plot was subpar this time around.
 

Scesci

Robin
I always thought this was some kind of zany nickelodeon show until i watched this one clip

One of the most amazing and thoughtful things i ever saw condensed into only 2:40 minutes

But this thread definitely sparked my commitment, 2Wycked made me watch all the boondocks seasons in almost two weeks https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-35036.html will definitely follow this cartoon, thanks bro
 

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Kingfisher
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I've seen a handful of episodes and it is alright. The show is basically just catering to a niche of people who think their humor is above that of family guy/south Park. The one thing I enjoy is fact the SJW's freaked when they found out the writers were all male. I heard they might have caved so if season 3 sucks that is the reason.
 

Valentine

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This show is awesome. Fast-paced, hilarious and has even more fucked up moments than South Park. Recommended.
 

Hermetic Seal

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Just recently got into this, but I've quickly become a big fan after catching up on the first two seasons. New episode was really good, too.
 
So far in season 3, I have to say their new writing staff isn't doing a very good job of it. Apparently the show's creator went out of his way to hire a half female staff and then proceeded to brag about it for male feminist cred.

What's really irritating is that they're writing the characters with different personalities. They've rewritten Rick as just a high-functioning psychopath with godlike powers from his inventions. Now when he's reckless it's always because he has some backup invention in his pocket to protect himself.

The clever absurdist humor that made the show great before has wandered more into the realm of "it's so random!" type humor.

Finally where the female writing staff leaves their mark is how Jerry is portrayed now, which seems influenced by the vitriolic hatred by women of beta males that has been discussed at large in the manosphere. In past seasons Jerry was certainly treated with constant abuse for his cowardice and passive aggression but at least he was given redeeming features in that he was trying to keep the family together. Now we see him living in squalor being mugged by coyotes for his welfare check, with only trivial negative effects of the divorce on the rest of the family. Pre-season 3 Beth would have almost certainly rapidly slipped into alcoholism once Jerry was gone, and pre-season 3 Summer and Morty actually cared about their father whereas now the most attention he gets is Morty convincing Rick to go torment Jerry in order to keep him from committing suicide. Notably this is in lieu of Morty actually visiting his father.
 

AnonymousBosch

 
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Scesci said:
I always thought this was some kind of zany nickelodeon show until i watched this one clip

One of the most amazing and thoughtful things i ever saw condensed into only 2:40 minutes


^
If anyone has ever heard me talk about obvious emotional manipulation as 'A Sad Crying Kitty Under A Tree In A Rainstorm', that's a brilliant example.

I'm surprised Aurini didn't jump in here. It's a rip-off of a famous Star Trek episode, back when Science Fiction dealt with Ideas and Constructs. I have a very, very low tolerance for Trek, but I remember it being a decent one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inner_Light_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)
 

Aurini

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AnonymousBosch said:
Scesci said:
I always thought this was some kind of zany nickelodeon show until i watched this one clip

One of the most amazing and thoughtful things i ever saw condensed into only 2:40 minutes


^
If anyone has ever heard me talk about obvious emotional manipulation as 'A Sad Crying Kitty Under A Tree In A Rainstorm', that's a brilliant example.

I'm surprised Aurini didn't jump in here. It's a rip-off of a famous Star Trek episode, back when Science Fiction dealt with Ideas and Constructs. I have a very, very low tolerance for Trek, but I remember it being a decent one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inner_Light_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)


I completely missed that (despite that episode being fresh in my mind); in Star Trek it was touching, whereareas they managed to spin it as an existential horror.

I 100% agree with BortimusPrime; the show's turning into The Rationalization Hamster Hour, where there are no emotional consequences for women's bad decisions.
 

Geomann180

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Aurini said:
I completely missed that (despite that episode being fresh in my mind); in Star Trek it was touching, whereareas they managed to spin it as an existential horror.

I 100% agree with BortimusPrime; the show's turning into The Rationalization Hamster Hour, where there are no emotional consequences for women's bad decisions.

I heard season IV is written by female writers, so I plan to stop there.

Definitely, Season 3 is not as good as the first two, at first glance. It's like a fast motion family guy in that sense.

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I still like the show - among a sea of programs that are unwatchable propaganda drivel this is still good:

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Here making fun of the Avengers who just turned out to be self-righteous psychopaths who destroyed a planet just to kill a shape-shifting villain who fled there.

Also note the captain future character who literally says that he is triggered and then gets himself killed:



However it can be noted that the female empowerment angle is starting to get through - if they hired women for that reason, then the usual mainstream bullshit is to come.

The last episode was about Summer getting dumped by her boyfriend for a more pretty girl with big boobs. So of course her ex is to be blamed for the girl's bad "body image":



The Jerry character was always meant to be a moderately good-looking Gamma who got a pretty girl pregnant while her sexual awareness was barely beginning. I know such couples as well where a cringe-worthy lower Beta get a super-hot 16yo girl pregnant, but she dumps him age 19 at the latest as she becomes aware of who he is and what she can actually get in the sexual market place.

The show is still very good by any standard and there are a multitude of things shown in the series which would never willingly be portrayed in mainstream media anymore, but we will see how the women will be ruining it.

I think that someone sensed a rise in popularity of the show, thus more fake geek-girls are attracted to it, it incited interests from above - maybe a future major motion picture possibility. They will probably ruin it by then at the latest.
 

Alpharius

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The best thing this show did was read this court transcript. Real life with Rick & Morty voices?

Highly NSFW (but basically the type of shit I yell at people when stuck in traffic)
 

The Beast1

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BortimusPrime said:
So far in season 3, I have to say their new writing staff isn't doing a very good job of it. Apparently the show's creator went out of his way to hire a half female staff and then proceeded to brag about it for male feminist cred.

What's really irritating is that they're writing the characters with different personalities. They've rewritten Rick as just a high-functioning psychopath with godlike powers from his inventions. Now when he's reckless it's always because he has some backup invention in his pocket to protect himself.

The clever absurdist humor that made the show great before has wandered more into the realm of "it's so random!" type humor.

Finally where the female writing staff leaves their mark is how Jerry is portrayed now, which seems influenced by the vitriolic hatred by women of beta males that has been discussed at large in the manosphere. In past seasons Jerry was certainly treated with constant abuse for his cowardice and passive aggression but at least he was given redeeming features in that he was trying to keep the family together. Now we see him living in squalor being mugged by coyotes for his welfare check, with only trivial negative effects of the divorce on the rest of the family. Pre-season 3 Beth would have almost certainly rapidly slipped into alcoholism once Jerry was gone, and pre-season 3 Summer and Morty actually cared about their father whereas now the most attention he gets is Morty convincing Rick to go torment Jerry in order to keep him from committing suicide. Notably this is in lieu of Morty actually visiting his father.

I'm glad you wrote this because this new season isn't living up to the glory of the last 2 and I was having trouble putting my finger on it. I was rewatching them for fun and everything about seasons 1 and 2 were infinitely funnier and better than the current one.

The problem with this season is simple: I feel bad for Jerry and the constant, "loooooosseeer" voice when they put him on screen has me directing my hatred towards the writers and pitying Jerry.

Though, I'd say the effects of the divorce on Morty and Summer weren't as downplayed as you think when they had a whole episode in that Mad Max universe. To be honest, I don't like it when they do a whole "movie" rip offs. They're my least favorite. The other episode they did last season with the purge was a wash too.

I enjoy the science fiction aburdity and the recent episode was a return to that thankfully.

I just take it as it comes. Can't get worked up about a TV show!

On an unrelated note: did anyone go see the Rickmobile? I went to one and it was a complete and utter waste of time.

There were at a minimum at least 50 no job losers who camped out the night prior in line. By the time the van showed up, the line had grown to wrapping around two entire blocks. This was also coupled with faggots selling their spots in line.

The lady and I decided to give up and instead just go up and see the Rickmobile. Pretty cool, but turns out they wouldn't let you snap a picture of thing because it wouldn't be fair to the people waiting in line who were taking pictures in front of it.

Seriously? What the fuck. You wait in line for the privilege of getting a pic in front of it. I told the guy to go fuck himself as I took the picture and left.

Honestly, they shouldn't announce the location of these events until 30 minutes before the actual scheduled time so that way people who are genuine fans of the show who have real lives can get merchandise they'll cherish and not immediately go online and resell for some obscene amount of money.
 
The Beast1 said:
Though, I'd say the effects of the divorce on Morty and Summer weren't as downplayed as you think when they had a whole episode in that Mad Max universe. To be honest, I don't like it when they do a whole "movie" rip offs. They're my least favorite. The other episode they did last season with the purge was a wash too.

I thought about that episode and it seemed to be there just to wrap up the loose ends of Summer and Morty being bothered by the divorce, which partially explains why it was a boring episode in general. I mean they couldn't have had the divorce with Summer and Morty totally unaffected by it, but having them affected and then getting over it in a nice little resolution over one episode suggests that they're going for a long term status of Jerry as a character similar to Bill Dauterive on King of the Hill: a divorced lonely loser that will just cry over a picture of his ex so that the female audience can laugh at him. There's a certain cruelty to the humor this season that wasn't really present in past seasons.

If I were writing the overarching plot for the divorce I would still have Jerry being pathetic, but I would have Beth, Summer, and Morty insisting that they aren't affected by it while gradually spiraling down over several episodes until Beth finally realizes that Rick is a toxic presence and kicks him out and takes Jerry back. Then you get episode after that were Rick insists he isn't affected by his daughter rejecting him and gradually spirals down until they have to reset everything because they want to keep making new seasons. This may still actually be what they're going for, but so far it hasn't been promising.

It feels silly analyzing a cartoon to this extent though.
 

The Beast1

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BortimusPrime said:
It feels silly analyzing a cartoon to this extent though.

Your analyses are on point and I completely agree with you on this. It is adult swim and if you stay up to watch the next show that follows Rick and Morty, you'll understand the absurdity of such an endeavor.

Though, they've really crafted an honest and well thought out so that was sort of unique in its science fiction dark humor angle.

Don't feel silly, because I did the same thing with Doctor Who which subsequently hit the shitter for the same crap we're talking about here.

It also doesn't help that Dan Harmon is a raging alcoholic who has a sort of "messiah" complex with his shows. Don't forget he was kicked off of his sitcom Community by NBC because he wasn't tenable to handling creative input from studio executives.

I hope they can keep up the pace and creativity of the show. They have their moments.
 
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