Rick & Morty: A Modern Tale Of An Alcoholic And An Incipient Beta

[spokepoker]

Dan Harmon "I'm not a nazi" rant

TL;DR:
30% of Americans are Nazis.

 

[Alpharius]

On one hand, I hate Jerry and everything he stands for. The guy just lets life constantly smack him around. On the other hand, Rick needs a rival. Someone who steps up and challenges him on all fronts - Jerry could be that person if he decided to fight back and try to get his family back from Rick. I would thoroughly enjoy an episode where Jerry begins building his own tech to challenge Rick, and Rick arrogantly laughs off the danger until there's a chance he could lose. Rick has a lot of enemies, including other all the other Ricks that Jerry could go to for help.

Then again, I really dislike Jerry for being such a little bitch and right now I can't help but think he has had this coming since day one.

 

[CynicalContrarian]

They've presented Jerry as a little bitch in the first two seasons.
Yet I find "clueless" Jerry far more amusing than "little bitch" Jerry.

More "human music", "balloon crush" & "pluto is a planet" moments, as opposed to bitch moments.

 

[username]

Were the female writers brought on for the season currently airing or announced for the next season? (Spoiler alert) The most recent one where Summer is pissed off for having small boobs and Morty blasting the guy for "having a poor body image of his sister" is the kind of trash you would expect female writers to produce. The first two seasons were good this season is the weakest one yet and doesn't have the same feel the previous ones did.

 

[AnonymousBosch]

I still like the show - among a sea of programs that are unwatchable propaganda drivel this is still good:

Out of curiousity, I watched a few episodes of Season 3 last night, to see what exactly this was.

Oh, it's Gamma Bait.

There's no point shitting on everyone's fun here, because then I'd be Rick, wouldn't I?

It's times like this I need a blog.

 

[DarkTriad]

Were the female writers brought on for the season currently airing or announced for the next season? (Spoiler alert) The most recent one where Summer is pissed off for having small boobs and Morty blasting the guy for "having a poor body image of his sister" is the kind of trash you would expect female writers to produce. The first two seasons were good this season is the weakest one yet and doesn't have the same feel the previous ones did.

He literally blasted him....after the weird emotional blaming shit, he zapped him with the machine till he was wallowing in freakish misery, like him liking someone else more and momentarily hurting her feelings was some savage crime deserving of meanspirited mutilation and retribution. Physically similar to Rick accidentally Cronenberging Morty's love interest (and the rest of the world) but very different in tone. A brother doesn't normally take a guy rejecting his sister that seriously. They actually tend to get more pissed at you for actually going on a date with them. the guy tends to have a little more empathy because it happens to the average guy hundreds of times and you're viewed as a psycho if you go down that route.

 

[DarkTriad]

So far in season 3, I have to say their new writing staff isn't doing a very good job of it. Apparently the show's creator went out of his way to hire a half female staff and then proceeded to brag about it for male feminist cred.

What's really irritating is that they're writing the characters with different personalities. They've rewritten Rick as just a high-functioning psychopath with godlike powers from his inventions. Now when he's reckless it's always because he has some backup invention in his pocket to protect himself.

The clever absurdist humor that made the show great before has wandered more into the realm of "it's so random!" type humor.

Finally where the female writing staff leaves their mark is how Jerry is portrayed now, which seems influenced by the vitriolic hatred by women of beta males that has been discussed at large in the manosphere. In past seasons Jerry was certainly treated with constant abuse for his cowardice and passive aggression but at least he was given redeeming features in that he was trying to keep the family together. Now we see him living in squalor being mugged by coyotes for his welfare check, with only trivial negative effects of the divorce on the rest of the family. Pre-season 3 Beth would have almost certainly rapidly slipped into alcoholism once Jerry was gone, and pre-season 3 Summer and Morty actually cared about their father whereas now the most attention he gets is Morty convincing Rick to go torment Jerry in order to keep him from committing suicide. Notably this is in lieu of Morty actually visiting his father.

Thanks for pointing this out, I was wondering about the shift in tone. Still a good show but a little off now.

 

[Kurgan]

I just finished so far of Season 3, pretty interesting especially episode 5.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I still like the show - among a sea of programs that are unwatchable propaganda drivel this is still good:

Out of curiousity, I watched a few episodes of Season 3 last night, to see what exactly this was.

Oh, it's Gamma Bait.

There's no point shitting on everyone's fun here, because then I'd be Rick, wouldn't I?

It's times like this I need a blog.

I am a sucker for Science Fiction and unlimited space exploration. If we were having inter-galactic tech, then I would return to Earth once every 10 years or not at all. But that is my dream job - which is currently not available and our actual leaders are not interested in giving mankind an out of the planet - rather creating an on-site prison complex and fully controlled theme-park for them.

I also like that Rick despite his flaws is an Alpha - or probably more a Dark Triad Sigma - and he is not a 15yo black female genius who does these things on an afternoon like in the current SJW created comics.

Frankly I think that a lot of the appeal of the show is unlimited expansion of travel - distant planets and places. For example if you observe how the original Star Trek was created with positive exploration into uncharted territories by a united Earth - and then later more like administrative social justice negotiations with other intergalactic nations - the shift was pretty clear frankly.

 

[Eskhander]

I think a similar ROK article was the first one I read. Strangely, I hadn't even heard of Rick and Morty at that point.

It's damn good.

 

[AnonymousBosch]

I am a sucker for Science Fiction and unlimited space exploration. If we were having inter-galactic tech, then I would return to Earth once every 10 years or not at all. But that is my dream job - which is currently not available and our actual leaders are not interested in giving mankind an out of the planet - rather creating an on-site prison complex and fully controlled theme-park for them.

I also like that Rick despite his flaws is an Alpha - or probably more a Dark Triad Sigma - and he is not a 15yo black female genius who does these things on an afternoon like in the current SJW created comics.

Frankly I think that a lot of the appeal of the show is unlimited expansion of travel - distant planets and places. For example if you observe how the original Star Trek was created with positive exploration into uncharted territories by a united Earth - and then later more like administrative social justice negotiations with other intergalactic nations - the shift was pretty clear frankly.

My point was simply: every Gamma will identify with Rick, because that's how they seem themselves in relation to the world.

The sourness of the whole experience makes me very wary of giving creator Dan Harmon space inside my head, because the ultra-specific nature of the references is telling = "Look at all my specialised knowledge of nerd culture."

Yeah... he's not for me. That Avengers takedown is Textbook Cultural Marxism in action. Your mileage may vary.

EDIT: This is an obvious Gamma meltdown. One tweet triggers a sour library of responses.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/artic...s-angry-abusive-twitter-rant-makes-him-s.html

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

The funny part is that Rick is rotten miserable despite his abilities. Who would want to be him? This is abject nihilism - I like parts of his personality.

Also - the other parts of the creator's personality traits seem to be shining through ever more strongly - morality does not exist, everyone is an asshole deep inside. Even the part about the infinite universes and infinite lives simply devalues each individual life and decision - as if it all did not matter.

The show even in the first 2 seasons had rampant feminism on - for example on that one planet where they showed that a species separated their 2 genders. The men were violent beasts who lived in a stone age environment and the women had created a high-tech utopia and lived in the 25th century in terms of technology. So those kind of things add up over time as more of the Gamma personality of the creator shines through:

But it makes sense - those guys actually want to be Rick - genius, almost all-powerful, getting pussy whenever they want it, having a drug fueled party at times and confusing this with real charisma - it makes sense.

 

[Malone]

Come on Zel, you can't talk about that episode without the gems from it.

The way women in the Utopia say hello: "I'm here if you need to talk."



"The spider in Sector C is still alive. Plan your route accordingly and expect delays. We're not telling you what to do, we're just sharing how we feel."

A restaurant called "Just a bite of yours"

 

[BortimusPrime]

I still like the show - among a sea of programs that are unwatchable propaganda drivel this is still good:

Out of curiousity, I watched a few episodes of Season 3 last night, to see what exactly this was.

Oh, it's Gamma Bait.

There's no point shitting on everyone's fun here, because then I'd be Rick, wouldn't I?

It's times like this I need a blog.

Oh man, you just nailed what was bugging me about Rick's characterization in season 3. He's turned into the gamma fantasy self where he's always right in every situation and in a position of smug superiority. The bit where he's psychologizing Jerry while the alien snake is slowly consuming Jerry is telling: it's a gamma display of "I know everything and I need you to see and acknowledge that I know everything". Once again there's no payoff in the writing for the reality that while Rick sees Jerry as a predator on Beth for tying her down with a family at a young age, Rick is presently a predator on Beth by tearing her family apart.

I wonder if Harmon was a gamma all along and the old writers they had in seasons 1 and 2 were responsible for fleshing out the characters correctly. Similar to how the old Star Wars was better when George Lucas had less control over everything. Plus I can see female writing staff not actually daring to challenge Harmon if he's pushing stupid shit, and why the old staff would have left or gotten canned in the first place. Gammas are shit managers.

 

[King of Monkeys]

I wouldn't be surprised of Dan Harmon is the main reason this season is sucking more than the last ones. I recall something similar happening to Community: it was a solid and grounded show for the first two seasons, but then it jumped the shark in season 3 and only got worse from there. If this is anything like the progression of quality from his other projects, it's going to be downhill from here.

 

[CynicalContrarian]

Trump derangement syndrome perhaps?

Matt Stone & Trey Parker failed with their last season of South Park by attempting to satirize Trump.
Then realizing they couldn't compete with reality.

Whereas with Dan Harmon, his REEE-steria over the current situation may cause him to falter...?

 

[tarquin]

For what it's worth, Dan Harmon is a confirmed Aspie. I don't know if that explains the season 3 shift, but I think it helps explain Rick's gamma/sigma personality.

 

[Transsimian]

Trump derangement syndrome perhaps?

Matt Stone & Trey Parker failed with their last season of South Park by attempting to satirize Trump.
Then realizing they couldn't compete with reality.

Whereas with Dan Harmon, his REEE-steria over the current situation may cause him to falter...?

It's not hysteria, it's very sensible to bunker down when you are surrounded by 100 million invisible Nazi stormtroopers.

 

[CynicalContrarian]

It's not hysteria, it's very sensible to bunker down when you are surrounded by 100 million invisible Nazi stormtroopers.

I guess.
When even Asian ESPN announcers are potential nazi's... :s

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

For what it's worth, Dan Harmon is a confirmed Aspie. I don't know if that explains the season 3 shift, but I think it helps explain Rick's gamma/sigma personality.

The difference between a Sigma personality is massive though it's on the same development track.

A Sigma can get laid easily with women in the prime. A Sigma can also inspire and lead men if he ever desires to and at times he does. Rick is a Sigma. As for Dan Harmon .....

Now I get it why Rick likes redheads:

She divorced him after a year of marriage.

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Note how quickly she gained some weight and cut heir hair after marrying him. Women of Alphas or high-status men usually try to shape up, because they feel like they need to compete with his other options.

The only excuse of a Sigma marrying up this would be to have been married when she was 20 and not 38 - she was likely at least a 6.5 when she was young. He is a Hollywood creator - even if not top-shelf certainly able to get hot young things.

Gamma status confirmed.

He is no Rick - Rick is what Dan Harmon would want to be or imagines he is. It explains the constant drinking and drug use of Rick, because Dan Harmon is known to take legal drugs like Adderall and be constantly on it.