Roosh Is Blowing Up! (Media coverage)

[Mekorig]

Really, really sneaky attempt by citynews, I have to say. Get a pro in to suggest that Roosh may just be a sociopath and mentally ill, discredit his opinions based on a blog post where Roosh was quite honestly admitting his human flaws. If Roosh can be "professionally evaluated" as being a lunatic sociopath, then no one would trust what he had to say. It's a pity that too many intelligent men know Roosh speaks only the truth, truth which often appears only when you do the most difficult things. The psychologist can reel off as many pseudoscientific theories as he wishes, but by far the best teacher when it comes to your own mind as a man is trial/error/observation/correction repeated many times. Put Dr Psychologist in some Eastern European shithole, tell him to talk to a group of 6ft platinum blondes in high heels and observe how he crumbles.

There's one age-old tactic offended psychiatrists and psychologists have been using for decades. If you don't agree with the opinions of another person, you diagnose the critic. By diagnosing the critic with a "mental illness", and by seeing him as "mentally ill", this removes the requirement for genuine debate between yourself and that person. You as the professional "win the argument" automatically, because how could a delusional, sociopathic (etc. etc.) "crazy" person have any sort of concept of the truth or reality, right?

Political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union

Check that link ChickenLover9T9, you will see how the left used psychiatry to lock oppositors up and send them to hell.

 

[ChickenLover9T9]

Horoscope reading is pretty much equal in credibility to what was on that report. In all seriousness, no real difference.

But some people will look at the guy's qualifications and take him seriously, I guess that's the target audience though.

 

[AnonymousBosch]

It's bizarre, the news has always been dishonest, but the stuff I see today is just downright goofy.

"We read three handpicked quotes to a psychologist and he analyzes a man he's never met based off of them. What could it mean???"

Roosh: your Twitter response to City News should that you're gluten-free and have a nutritionist.

 

[Tytalus]

Two Articles here guys, so long post. I've bolded some key points in both articles.

One who actually looks like they did at least SOME research:

For a man fuelled by controversy, the self-proclaimed “pickup artist” known as Roosh V doesn’t like talking to the media — “I’m a bit squeezed for time,” he said Tuesday, politely rebuffing requests for comment on public condemnation that his speaking engagements in Canada aroused. “I have my own media channels. It’s not worth my time to talk to reporters,” he said in an email to the National Post. To a Toronto radio station he was more dismissive: “Bell Media can go to hell.”

Daryush Valizadeh, who goes by the name Roosh V and writes about convincing women to have sex, says he gave his lecture in Montreal to a group of 34 in a secret location, travelling in disguise, before he was spotted and chased out of a restaurant and down the street by a small, angry mob on Saturday.

In anticipation of his scheduled appearance in Toronto on Saturday, Toronto mayor John Tory denounced him and his views as a form of hate speech. “While free speech is the law in this country, promoting violence against women is wrong,” Tory tweeted. “I am calling on those hosting this tour to do the right thing — cancel this show.”

We won. Men won. Free speech won. Here's my Montreal victory speech: youtube.com/watch?v=ZtWYvU…

Toronto and Montreal were the two Canadian dates on a tour his website says also includes Berlin, London, Washington D.C., and New York City. In the face of it all, the American blogger appears unbowed, lampooning his detractors in social media for being ineffective and hysterical.

In public relations, if not his social life, offence seems his best defence: He filed a police complaint against a woman he accuses of dumping a beer over his head and released photos and personal details on her. He mocked and seemed to revel in his critics’ attacks, often sending links to articles to his followers. After a petition to keep him out of Canada failed, he announced on Twitter: “40,000+ Canadians couldn’t stop a lecture attended by only 34 men, even with media & govt help. Stunning humiliation.”

His critics attack his comments about women; one blog posting in February is often cited. Entitled “How To Stop Rape” his solution is: “If done in a dwelling or on private property, any and all rape that happens should be completely legal.”

“If rape becomes legal under my proposal, a girl will protect her body in the same manner that she protects her purse and smartphone.”

It is all part of his promotion as a guru, espousing a doctrine he calls Neomasculinity. His pickup strategy is a pursuit he calls “the game.” His first book, Bang, is self-described as “powerful techniques, moves and lines that make it easier for average guys to get laid.”

His lecture tour promises a 40-minute speech called the “The State of Man” as part of a four-hour event. One man, claiming to have attended the Montreal event, said he and some of the other men also socialized in bars with Valizadeh and got first-hand input on their attempts to get women to have sex with them.

Valizadeh says his books are based on “six years of full-time study in the game.” His biography on his websites says he graduated from the University of Maryland with a degree in microbiology. He says he quit his job as an industrial microbiologist to live the life of the game and, apparently, profit from sharing his tales.

It is unclear why Valizadeh chose Toronto as one of his two Canadian dates. In a 2013 blog post, he lists 15 reasons why Toronto is “the worst city in North America for men.”

Among them, he says, is that Toronto women prefer food to sex and have egos that outstrip their attractiveness.

At least one person is saying Roosh at least has the right to free speech, even they disagree with him:

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/ne...ni-soupcoff-in-defence-of-a-dreary-individual

People who make a habit of saying wildly offensive and disgusting things tend to be such dreary human beings. Sometimes I get tired of defending their right to express themselves, even though I truly believe in the importance of that right — for the sake of all of us. Thus, I’ve decided to defend yet another dreary human being out of the worry that if I don’t, I will allow that dreary person to destroy something far too valuable to let go of without a fight.

Today’s dreary person is an American man named Daryush Valizadeh.

Let’s start with Valizadeh’s failings, which are many: he calls himself a “pick-up artist” and has blogged that rape should be “made legal on private property” because this would cause women to be more protective of themselves, guarding their bodies the way they do their smartphones and purses. If Valizadeh, who goes by the online name Roosh V, treats “American girls like disposal razors” (his words), it’s only because he “must do so in order to get laid.”

The guy is a walking advertisement for parental Internet controls, and perhaps no more need be said in revelatory criticism of him than that of his 15 self-published books, 11 of them have the word “bang” in the title.

The trouble is that rather than leave Valizadeh to wither away in relative obscurity with his like-minded boorish male peers, his critics have chosen to call for the government to get involved in shutting Valizadeh up and have therefore given him new life.

When it became known that Valizadeh was coming to Canada to hold speaking events in Montreal and Toronto this month, a petition was created demanding that he be barred from entering the country. It received over 37,000 signatures; and though Valizadeh made it across the border anyway, the petition’s creator, Sara Parker-Toulson, updated it to call for three Canadian mayors to denounce Valizadeh.

There’s absolutely no reason mayors can’t “denounce” who they like, but the suggestion that Valizadeh should have been legally prevented from speaking in this country is troubling. It’s not that I want to hear tips on how to pick up Danish girls at night. It’s that I believe George Orwell had it right: “If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” That includes theories that feminism destroys men, or that Toronto is the worst city in North America for guys looking to hook up with women, in part because last call is at 2:00 a.m.

It’s interesting to me that when Valizadeh was in Montreal over this past weekend, he reportedly had beer thrown in his face by several women in a bar, before being chased out and followed to where he was staying.

There’s some visceral satisfaction in the notion of a slimy guy ending up with a humiliating drink-to-the-kisser — a sort of hokey ’80s-movie version of gender-balanced justice. Yet how pleased should we actually be to have ended up with a situation where the bad guy is merely spreading obnoxious ideas with words, while the good guys are resorting to physical assaults, albeit of the cheesy rather than frightening variety, to make their point?

I wrote in May that one man’s hate crime is another man’s conscientious expression of dissent. Instead of letting the government sort out which is which, why don’t we hash it out amongst ourselves through a vigorous public debate?

The points Valizadeh makes strike me as being mostly unintelligent and undignified. But rights are not contingent on an individual’s IQ or taste. The freedom to express oneself is a freedom that belongs to all human beings, regardless of who they are or what point of view they hold. Indeed, it’s that diversity of thought and perspective that brings us the opportunity to sort bad ideas from good and lies from truth.

It’s OK to be indignant and angry about what Valizadeh says. It may be constructive to point out why. (Valizadeh’s level of discourse is low enough and peripheral enough that I’m not sure it’s worth the ink in his case, unless he’s been made an issue, as has happened with the petition.)

What’s not helpful is to legally muzzle Valizadeh. If we’re to achieve a more enlightened level of thinking about women, we have to get there through an honest and at times unpleasant discussion. This cannot be done by arresting people whose opinions don’t conform to what is viewed as the correct point of view.

 

[Ingocnito]

^^^ "Dreary human being?" - Very odd word choice. meaning; Bleak and lifeless.. mmkay. Dreary like RAINING ON YOUR PARADE ?

 

[Kizman]

What annoys me even more than the feminists here are the beta-magina white knights. Do these guys have no shame or guilt in trying to put another man down just to appease the SJW freaks?

It's a shame, because they could've been our comrades in war, but instead they choose to act like mindless drones.

 

[Hannibal]

They're just moral signaling in a piss-poor attempt to get laid be Goodpersons.

 

[Beyond Borders]

“I have my own media channels. It’s not worth my time to talk to reporters,” he said in an email to the National Post. To a Toronto radio station he was more dismissive: “Bell Media can go to hell.”

:highfive:

 

[Barron]

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/ne...ni-soupcoff-in-defence-of-a-dreary-individual

It’s OK to be indignant and angry about what Valizadeh says. It may be constructive to point out why. Valizadeh’s level of discourse is low enough and peripheral enough that I’m not sure it’s worth the ink in his case, unless he’s been made an issue, as has happened with the petition.)

LOL! please point out why, I dare you to challenge the guy that has lived abroad for the past decade and wrote numerous books about his findings. Please come up with points that contradict his findings.

One hit piece after another without any substance to support the conclusions they draw. Marni Soupcoff attempts to hide his seething contempt behind pseudo intellectual discourse yet his conclusions are empty. He has no disagreement, his disagreement has him, and all we're left with is yet another jealous incel.

 

[Orson]

Roosh' in Toronto - and the failed attempt to censor him there - has made the online newsite "Breitbart," HERE.

"IN CANADA, ROOSH V’S CRACKPOT CRITICS HAVE GOT IT ALL WRONG." The piece defends pluralism - true diversity of opinion, too - and therefore Roosh himself.

(I know it's got a mention on page 4 of this thread, but I could not find a LINK, so....this ome does.)

 

[captndonk]

Wow, I hate all these liars.

 

[RIslander]

“I have my own media channels. It’s not worth my time to talk to reporters,” he said in an email to the National Post. To a Toronto radio station he was more dismissive: “Bell Media can go to hell.”

:highfive:

Also:

 

[Dr. Howard]

A friend sent me this screenshot from her homepage this morning. Apparently the new axis of evil is ISIS, Roosh and North Korea.

 

[TheSlayer]

^^ Yahoo Canada had coverage on Roosh as well.

The Canadian media is using Roosh this week to get their hits, clicks, and views.

 

[DannyAlberta]

Member of the "Blogging Tories" (Canadian conservative blogsphere) Canadian Cincinnatus comes out in support of Roosh and blasts the Toronto mayor John Tory. I'm not surprised as he champions freedom of speech, freedom of religion and the general limitation of government powers. Much like many of us here.

He also occasionally uses the phrases "alpha male" and "beta male" in his blog the same way as many here do.

http://canadiancincinnatus.typepad....onto-mayor-john-tory-attacks-free-speech.html

While we’re on the subject of free speech John, you know what? If you don’t support speech you disagree with, then you don’t really support the concept of free speech. There is also the concept of tolerance, something that you no doubt wholeheartedly profess to support. However, if you stop and think about it, the word ‘tolerance’ means tolerating things you don’t agree with. If you only tolerate things you agree with, then you aren’t really being tolerant, are you?

And if you are really into stopping those who promote violence against women, why don’t you crack down on all the Marxist professors proselytizing at the University of Toronto and York University? According to historians, communism killed about 100 million people in the 20th century, give or take a few tens of million. Given that at least a few millions of these victims were women, you’ve got some real misogynists on your hands, especially as both universities lie within Toronto’s borders. But I’m guessing you won’t be doing that anytime soon.

Then Mr. Tory took more time out of his hectic day to tweet this:

“I am calling on those hosting this tour to do the right thing – cancel this show.”

You know what I am getting sick and tired of? Politicians who refuse to stay within the bounds of their job description. In the case of the City of Toronto and its Mayor, these duties are defined by the City of Toronto Act. The City of Toronto Act gives the City and its Mayor plenty to do: collect garbage, run the police force, inspect restaurants, maintain the fire department, clean the snow off the roads, and many other essential tasks. You know what isn’t on that list? Regulating the content of private meetings held on private property. Doing that isn’t part of your job, Mr. Tory. Instead, why not concentrate of providing the best municipal services you can while keeping the property taxes down? If you do that, and do it well, not only will you be re-elected, but you will also find that your day will be filled from morning to night with productive tasks.

A good thrashing.

 

[Bad Hussar]

^^^John Torry

Reinstate Rob Ford now. All is forgiven.

 

[Roosh]

I'm going to shut this thread down to conserve our attention. You can post all new news stories in the newest operation thread (currently operation fornication: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-49726.html ).