Roosh LIFTING TOTALS

[Hencredible Casanova]

fuck me, velkrum, you're a beast. Pics!

I'll post pics but I'm having trouble with the attachments. Here's an old vid of me

That's retarded.

 

[teh_skeeze]

Check out Paul Wade's "Convict Conditioning" if you're interested. He placed third in a 1987 California powerlifting competition and did not train with weights.
The idea of progressive calisthenics is that you start with something basic, like knee pushups, and you work until you meet a progression standard (two working sets), with the end goal being an elite level, like one-armed pushups. Your bodyweight doesn't change, but the exercise does.

I do basic bodyweight stuff (close pushups, back bridges, close squats etc), and I can deadlift 315 no problem.

+1 on the book recommendation. I skimmed through it last night and it makes my martial arts training look like a joke.

 

[Walnuts]

I tried 1 arm pushups. I can crank out a few but it is definitely hard. Plus it's a really awkward position to be in. It's really uncomfortable and tiring and doesn't isolate the chest like the good old bench press. You work everything. Whilst that can be good, I think isolation gives much bigger and faster gains.
So I got an old backpack, filled it with 50lbs of weight plates, and did weighted pressups.
The next day I noticed that it didn't work my pecs AT ALL. My lats were shredded but my chest was untouched.

I think it's back to free-weights for me, but I haven't given up on calisthenics. I will do further experimentation.

 

[Basil Ransom]

It annoys me when these body weight training trolls talk about all you need to train is an empty space. It's ridiculous. How would you do your Chest? How would you do your biceps? Back?

They would say push ups and dips for chest and pull ups for back and would be right to a degree but for big mass you need compound movements and in those two target areas that means bench press and deads.

Before I join the discussion can someone please tell me: Are people including the bar in their weight totals?

One advantage of bodyweight training is that it's mostly or entirely closed chain exercises, where you're moving your entire body instead of just a limb. This includes a lot of the main lifts, barbell/weighted included. Popular closed chain exercises include squats, deadlifts, cleans, pullups, dips.

And yeah, people always include the bar weight, unless they specify otherwise.

I started doing bodyweight tricep extensions again, I like these. I've done dips but I always end up using my chest a whole lot more than my triceps. Without more direct work, my triceps lag behind my torso.

Bodyweight tricep extensions



Here's a vid from UW's strength program:

 

[ElJefe]

I'm worried Velkrums back curved just a bit much? He almost doesn't move his hips?? Weak core??

Not hating, just curious...

I've finally gotten back into my routine... doing 250, 290 and 320 for reps on bp, squat and dl right now. Goal is to reach 275, 330 and 375 within a month. I've quit drinking (for now) and going out for now to focus on this, which is kinda nice, because it's forcing me to do more day approaches, which I loathe...

 

[velkrum]

@ Eljefe

there will always be a slight degradation in form when hitting max weight / reps.

 

[metalhaze]

@ Eljefe

there will always be a slight degradation in form when hitting max weight / reps.

I personally don't advise heavy lifts because no one will do 100% correct form squats or DL all the time...once a disc snaps in your spine, your back will NEVER be the same again.

 

[BCZalgyris]

@ Eljefe

there will always be a slight degradation in form when hitting max weight / reps.

I personally don't advise heavy lifts because no one will do 100% correct form squats or DL all the time...once a disc snaps in your spine, your back will NEVER be the same again.

Great point metalhaze. The only lift I do to the max and the safest one in my opinion is the bench press and even then when going for your max a spotter should be present unless you wanna end up like Stafon Johnson (USC Running Back) with your neck crushed

 

[velkrum]

There is a risk in everything. I've seen more guys and girls get hurt on bench press than any other lift.

All you need is a good understanding of your body and technique to perform compound lifts with minimal chance of injury, even with less than perfect form.

I understand people should do their best to be safe in the gym but anyone could get hurt doing anything. If we were all pussies about what we did we would not learn anything.

Use common sense and practice. Always start off light and practice with light weight. Gradually work your way up in added pounds. Follow those rules and any competent person with a desire to learn should easily be able to squat or deadlift properly.

 

[Eliogabalus]

I dont deadlift at all and havent squated much, and never to my max limit for one rep. Is there a site to estimate you max squat or deadlift accurately based on other max of exercises? greetings.

 

[whitenoise]

There is a risk in everything. I've seen more guys and girls get hurt on bench press than any other lift.

All you need is a good understanding of your body and technique to perform compound lifts with minimal chance of injury, even with less than perfect form.

I understand people should do their best to be safe in the gym but anyone could get hurt doing anything. If we were all pussies about what we did we would not learn anything.

Use common sense and practice. Always start off light and practice with light weight. Gradually work your way up in added pounds. Follow those rules and any competent person with a desire to learn should easily be able to squat or deadlift properly.

my pet hate is in fact the barbell bench press

if you're not a powerlifter, there is nothing to recommend it over dumbbell bench. small difference in total load, both exercises need spotters for very heavy weights, and for most dumbbells stimulate greater pec activation. most importantly, barbell bench has a far more destructive impact on the shoulder joint.

 

[Eliogabalus]

There is a risk in everything. I've seen more guys and girls get hurt on bench press than any other lift.

All you need is a good understanding of your body and technique to perform compound lifts with minimal chance of injury, even with less than perfect form.

I understand people should do their best to be safe in the gym but anyone could get hurt doing anything. If we were all pussies about what we did we would not learn anything.

Use common sense and practice. Always start off light and practice with light weight. Gradually work your way up in added pounds. Follow those rules and any competent person with a desire to learn should easily be able to squat or deadlift properly.

my pet hate is in fact the barbell bench press

if you're not a powerlifter, there is nothing to recommend it over dumbbell bench. small difference in total load, both exercises need spotters for very heavy weights, and for most dumbbells stimulate greater pec activation. most importantly, barbell bench has a far more destructive impact on the shoulder joint.

Right comment, I've dropped the barbell benchpress long ago because It made me felt quite weird and uncomfortable while doing it, and I felt more compression in other areas rather than my chest. While doing the same with dumbells I feel a lot of tension on my chest, but only my chest, which makes me feel way better when performing the exercise.

 

[ElJefe]

as per 30th april 2012

* gym lifts, not official powerlifting meet numbers. *
*All weight in lbs*

• HT - 5'10''
• WT - 208

1. Squat - 400
2. Bench Press - 320
3. Standing Military Press - 200

No deadlift, lumbar is too fucked right now. Am crossjizzin' 4-5 times weekely at the moment, and trying to lift heavy once a week, but my strength has shrunk 5% or so from those highs. Lost 10lbs in two weeks (mostly fluid).

Am in ketosis on weekdays, carb-cycle weekends, trying to drop about 20lbs by mid-summer.

 

[Walnuts]

i thought ketosis took a lot longer than a few days to kick in?

 

[reaper23]

i thought ketosis took a lot longer than a few days to kick in?

definitely does for me. after 8 weeks of it i did a carb loading day on sunday and here it is thursday and still not back.

frustrating

 

[ElJefe]

maybe i'm kidding myself, but my sweat REEKS of ammonia by midweek. It smells like cat-piss, it's diabolical.

I would hope with the intense exercise level, glucogen levels are totally depleted already monday.

 

[alecks]

i thought ketosis took a lot longer than a few days to kick in?

definitely does for me. after 8 weeks of it i did a carb loading day on sunday and here it is thursday and still not back.

frustrating

you do know there are supplements that can get you into ketosis much quicker? ever heard of insulin mimickers/glucose disposal agents etc?

things like chromium,cinnamon, r alpha lipoic acid,banaba leaf,gymnema sylvestre and other herbs help shuttle carbs into glycogen stores much quicker = lower insulin response meaning ketosis isnt skewed out of control.

there was a dude over at md forums and knew everything and anything to know about insulin and how it works and other supplements.he said he went on a keto diet for 3 months and then had a refeed day consisting of over 500g carbs in the day,but because he used supplements and herbs to help shuttle the glucose away he was still in ketosis.its crazy shit.

 

[ElJefe]

Ok, have done a lot of reading.

Most places people say it's the nitrogen by-product form amino-acis being used for energy, and it gets excreted because of kidneys unable to process the large amount of nitrogen.

Then others say it's ketosis.

Either way, today my acid levels are up for sure.

Will stick with this program another three weeks, give my final opinion June 10.

 

[WesternCancer]

I would say its the ammonia from the amino acids making you smell like that. They probably also say its ketosis because you're using mainly fat, but also amino acids as an energy source. You're probably also eating way more protein than you would on a non-keto diet so you have an abundance in your bloodstream.

 

[alecks]

its ketosis,ive been there before.the smell is actually acetone.your urine,breath and sweat will stink of acetone (a type of alcohol) whilst in ketosis,its horrible but thats what happens when ketone bodies are being used to burn fat