Roosh on The Gavin McInnes Show

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Ingocnito

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Roosh, these are precisely the types of interviews that spread the word with maximum efficacy. For once, you got airtime that covered many events leading up to this one, and gave a good broad perspective of what you and neomasculinity stands for. Joe Rogan show would be great in the US.
 

Ingocnito

Pelican
kaotic said:
Great interview, he makes some hilariously obvious points that SJW's can't even comprehend, it's like they're literally braindead and live of being fed talking points.

You know, Gavin didn't say anything ground breaking in response to Roosh's history, but he pointed things out in such a "matter of factual" way, that if this was viewed by a "soft" feminist, blue piller, or someone newly exposed, they might be compelled to roll with us.
 

Karaya

Sparrow
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I took the time to transcribe the most important parts of the interview. This includes the discussion about the "How To Stop Rape" article and the beer-throwing incident. So here you will find the latest what Roosh says about this.

The following excerpt is taken from minute 5.18 onwards and 36.09 onwards respectively.

McInnes: “Well, that’s the irony I have found all about your controversy. You wrote an article saying rape should be legal. And before reading it everyone ran with it. My personal belief is because they were so happy they’ve finally found someone that fit the narrative. And rather than getting into the new ones of the discussion that is going on [they just said] “We’ve found a bad man!” and they run off and want to ban you from Canada. But in your argument you are actually trying to prevent women from getting raped whereas the slutwalks and [people who say] “women-are-the-same-as-men”, “they can go and get wasted” and “they can go to any party they want to”. That gets more women raped than your philosophy."

Roosh V: “You know, in that article everyone is quoting as some kind of … I clearly stated what the rules of consent are. I clearly state “No means No”. And I clearly state that the intention of this thought experiment – which is absurd, I mean you can’t legalize violence – is to reduce rape, is to reduce harm. It was a thought experiment to show how if women took more personal responsibility for themselves just like they do for their smartphone, their car or whatever that they own, they would be putting themselves less at risk. I mean a man who parks his car in a bad area, leaves the door open and leaves the key in there is going to be called an idiot if someone actually robs him. But when a woman has fifteen drinks at night and goes home with this sexy man, and in the next day she feels upset about it and misconstrues this event as rape we encourage and celebrate her. So I don’t get it why men have to be responsible for themselves and women, at the same time, when women do not have to be responsible for anything.”

McInnes: “Well, it really is the death of intellect. Cause when someone presents you with this cookie hypothesis that rocks your world the solution is not to scream your fucking head off and have a panic attack. The solution is to “Well, what about…” – and I would take up that solution right now in the near post this week. They had these guys - I think they are Puerto Rican, they are Hispanic. One of them got invited to an locale to fuck some woman. And he would leave the door open and a bunch of other guys come in – two other guys – and gangrape this woman. Here they are. They have the two other guys, they don’t have the main guy yet. Oh wait a minute, they have the main guy but do not have the other guys. They are pictured here [Title: Man charged in gang-rape robberies, 2 suspects still at large. By Kenneth Garger and Dana Sauchelli. August 9, 2015.] A hotel room is essentially private property. Just for the sake of argument. Doesn’t this fall under your legal rape umbrella?”

Roosh V: “If I was being serious with my thought experiment maybe it would. But if people really genuinely think that I would advocate for violence against anyone their IQ has to be under 80. I mean I am having a lot of stone-deaf autistic people - and I have nothing against men who have autism. But obviously something is up there that they cannot tell a satire. It’s almost like Jonathan Swift made his “I like to eat babies argument” now everyone would follow a twitter mob against him. And ban him from wherever country he is in. It’s just absurd. Just as you said, the level of intellect is so low that people can’t even read anymore. They cannot read. They can only read short soundbites disseminated by a biased media to get them up in a fraud.”


The beer throwing incident

McInnes: “Okay, let’s go this beer throwing incident that happened. I guess this happened Saturday night.”

Roosh V: “Yes, Saturday night. Around midnight.”

McInnes:”I thought it was interesting the write-up that woman said that all of Montreal is thrown around it. Tonight I should say I am from Montreal and I know that city’s mentality. They are born ingrates. In 1970 they killed English people and put the entire country in a state of emergency for the FLQ, the Front de Libération du Quebec, which was a Quebec separatist group. And ever since that incident which made Canada bilingual, [during] the October crisis where a man was killed just for being English – they blew up a bomb and killed an English security guard – that sort of set the tone for Canada and the FLQ called the Quebecians the “Niggers of Canada” after that – they could just gripe and get whatever they want. Quebec is full of welfare and the entire country is full of French Canadians demanding pensions in the government and endless supplies of gifts in the government. Even in Vancouver you have to bilingual and the airlines have to be bilingual and speak French even though there is no French people in Vancouver. There’s barely French people outside of Quebec. It’s a whiny culture that learned very early the day it was born really that whining gets you gifts and it’s become their culture. And that’s why when they heard this guy was coming who wrote an article once that discussed legalization of rape and what it would do to rape cases – was morphed into “pro-rape-advocate comes to Montreal to promote rape”. So this girl in her write-up about this incident she sayshe tried to seduce me and I played his game and I played his cards…”

Roosh V: “I must say what she actually did. I approached her outside on the side walk. And I said: “Hey, we are new in town, do you know a bar where that is good? What about this bar that is over here?”

McInnes: “What was that bar?”

Roosh V: “I forgot the name. But it was in the center of Laurent. Saint Laurent. And then we went inside the bar, we had shots, and she was smiling and getting up to me and her body was rubbing against me. And she said let’s go outside for a smoke. And we sat down. She was wearing a short skirt. And her sexy legs were rubbing against me. I thought I was going to get laid, actually. And then she - what they were doing was buying time. They called a group of guys – at the same time she was rubbing her legs against me. And then, when the guys came, she went inside, and me and my crew,we were milling around. And then guys asked to come and drink outside. So I went outside and that’s when it started. That guy got into my face and [rudely asked] like “What’s your real name?” And then the video starts with the girl who rubbed herself against me which I didn’t mind. She’s the one who started it all, who threw the beer at me.”
McInnes: “So you never… she says you put your arm around her waist and said “let’s go to a bar, baby.”

Roosh V: (angry) “I mean I said “Let’s go.” But you can’t grab someone like that. And if I did she should have stopped me then and there instead of coming closer to me and smiling to me and drinking with me and touching me. “

McInnes: “And then you threw your beer back into her face?”

Roosh V: “I didn’t have beer. I had water.”

McInnes: “Ha, ha…”

Roosh V: “ I don’t remember doing that…”

McInnes: “Let’s see the clip.” (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1V5Pi0e954 or (brightened up version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uRKv0DfOvk.) “(ironic) Oh yeah, finally a sexist gets it.” And yeah, she seems to get something there. (amused) “How dare you fucking come to Canada.” All right, we get it, we get it. – Ben Shapiro recently pressed charges with this trainee who threatened him on some idiotic show I forgot the name of. And a lot of people say that’s a pussy move to press charges in something like that. But I disagree. They have been pressing charges on us for a decade now. And we have these people fired for violating the rules. If it’s a private affair and some chick throws a glass at you or throws a beer in your face, of course you are not going to press charges. But what we are doing here by retaliating is using their rules against them. And we’ve been letting them get away with murder for too long.”

Roosh V: “…pressed charges. Because after the event they were posting the address they thought I was staying and inciting…”

McInnes: “I am sorry. Ben was a little late on that. He has now the beatings, he beats off once a day. Did you start that with “The reason I pressed charges?”

Roosh V: “Yes.” (McInnes: “Okay.”) The reason I did that is because after the event was done they went online and whooped it up. They actually gave the address they thought I was staying at to incite other people to come and also harm me.”

McInnes: “They put up “Wanted” photos all over the fucking place.”

Roosh V: “They did that. These people, I don’t know them. I don’t know. Yes, it’s beer now, but I don’t know what is coming up after this. So I believe that the police should have a record of what they actually did. – Otherwise, I mean if someone throws a beer at you I am not going to waste an hour and a half to deal with that. But when these people who are organized – they were hunting me down. And I have tweet charts that show this. They were hunting me down trying to assault me. This was a pre-meditated act. And even after it was done they continued to hunt me down. So as you know, if there is any good reason to file charges against someone it’s probably this.”
 

VincentVinturi

Pelican
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Awesome interview.

Gavin is really smart and I love his irreverence.

He just says what he thinks and fuck you if you don't like it.

And Roosh, you drop a lot of wisdom and have a laugh doing it.

That's what it's all about!
 

CH-Toronto

Kingfisher
PatStanley said:
Here's a video Gavin did at The Rebel which summarizes most of the discussion.


"Gavin McInnes of TheRebel.Media reports, Roosh V is a pro-rape sexist/racist/homophobe who goes on tour trying to repeal rape laws so he can get more raping going on.

That is the narrative the left is going with and it’s so juicy, nobody’s bothered to look it up. Even the mayors of Toronto and Montreal are on board."

Couldn't agree more. For the record I think he was fired, and his shares were bought. They fired him due to the fact that the company was growing and his thoughts/views were becoming a liability.
 

Eskhander

Pelican
Sadly, I saw McInnes's Cuckservative video and his hamstering to the backlash he sustained.

Basically he outed himself as a cuckservative by attacking people to the right, and generally not understanding the moniker.

So now it's less cool despite being a great interview. Being so edgy is hard, I can't enjoy anything!
 

Killer Joe

 
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Eskhander said:
Sadly, I saw McInnes's Cuckservative video and his hamstering to the backlash he sustained.

Basically he outed himself as a cuckservative by attacking people to the right, and generally not understanding the moniker.

So now it's less cool despite being a great interview. Being so edgy is hard, I can't enjoy anything!

That's disappointing.

Still, it's an excellent interview. Great banter between the two. I like the part where they ripped on Dr. Oz.
 

x-it

 
Banned
Roosh says in the interview at 3:00 - his father is conservative Muslim and his mother is orthodox -- so I am half, half -- what does that mean? His mother is not muslim - so he in only half muslim?? -don't get it --
 

TonySandos

Pelican
Gold Member
McInnis's overconcern with womens riiights and finding out where Roosh stands politically on that in accordance to Islam was a waste of time. So what if he did? That guy claims to support more traditional sex roles himself, but gets all worked up over pulling back the out of control feminist machine. That's a hypocrite. If I woke up tomorrow and was posed with choosing between fundamental Islam and todays feminism, I'd probably pick Islam. No wonder he folded on the cuckservative debate
 

Eskhander

Pelican
TonySandos said:
McInnis's overconcern with womens riiights and finding out where Roosh stands politically on that in accordance to Islam was a waste of time. So what if he did? That guy claims to support more traditional sex roles himself, but gets all worked up over pulling back the out of control feminist machine. That's a hypocrite. If I woke up tomorrow and was posed with choosing between fundamental Islam and todays feminism, I'd probably pick Islam. No wonder he folded on the cuckservative debate

I'm not sure if I would pick the same as you but that's another debate.

His issue with the cuckservative thing was purely racial, and the way he responded to people criticizing him was absurd. He called them all sockpuppets and not responding to them.
 

Dusty

Owl
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HighSpeed_LowDrag said:
Roosh's interview with Ezra Levant of The Rebel.media is up:



Very well done.

Roosh never sounded more articulate. I suspect he is using his lecture tour talking points which he has a lot of practice articulating now. He's got his rap down and it shows.
 

iamdegaussed

Kingfisher
Not gonna watch the McInnes interview after hearing about it, but everyone should watch the Levant one. This is what a fair shake from someone in the media looks like (looking at you Dr. Oz).

When someone takes time to come on your show, you're obliged to be fair to them. If you're going to challenge them (don't think Levant really challenged Roosh, just gave him a platform to tell his side of the story), you should let them know before hand "I am going to ask questions about this this and this."

So far Roosh looks measured and articulate but honestly it's not hard when you see the insanity coming from the other side.
 
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