Root canals - LT health issues

911

911

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I've recently come across this interesting stat about cancer: 97% of those with terminal cancer have reportedly had a root canal. The percentage of Americans with root canals is around 26%.

https://globalpossibilities.org/97-of-terminal-cancer-patients-previously-had-this-dental-procedure/

I've had a root canal in my late 20s following a broken/chipped front tooth from mountain biking. I regret having done this, at that time the tooth was shaky but not dead. I think I might have had some of the complications from infections at the base of the root canal.

The medical establishment and sources like Snopes dispute this link, but it's hard to know how much of it is true...
 
Hypno

Hypno

Crow
I don't know about root canals but oral hygeine is incredibly important to your health because your gums are a pathway to infection. You should floss daily. Get those little sword flossers from walmart or the drug store, a few bucks for a hundred.

when you first floss, you might have some bleeding. that means your gums are inflamed. the more regularly you floss, the less inflamed they will become.
 
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The Catalyst

Ostrich
BromigoMike said:
bunch of bs....correlation is not the same as causation.

The question to ask is out of all the people who have had root canals, how many have cancer? Very few.
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The fascinating question to ask would be out of all the people who haven't had root canals, how many have cancer?
 
Captain Gh

Captain Gh

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Years & years ago when I was trying to get my life back on track, I once listened to Kevin Trudeau mentioning rout canals (on the front teeth I believe) blocks the energy pathway of that area, which then fosters the environment for the tumor to appear.

Now you may call him a Conman... but the Pharmaceutical cartel mercilessly did try to shut him up for years... until they got him thrown in jail in a long bid! As we all know from Roosh's Mainstream lashing... they don't come for you... unless you're a threat, a real one! Just sayin!
 
Johnnyvee

Johnnyvee

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(re-posted from other thread...)

Definitely a correlation and not causation type situation. Cancer is highly associated with the typical disease promoters; hyperglycemia, insulin resistance, T2D, obesity etc. The common denominator being a diet high in refined carbs.

As we all know it`s a high carb diet (hexose sugars) that is the cause of caries/tooth decay. Streptococcus mutants, lactobacilli acidophilus and candida albicans mainly ferment sugars, the byproduct of glycolysis being the organic acid lactate. This is what causes cavities! In addition to acidic drinks that might or might not have sugar in them also. So you would expect a strong correlation between cancer (+most other Western disease) and root canals and dental health.

The good news is that you can always change your diet, and "solve" both issue. Teeth can re-mineralize also, depending on various factors. (of course not if you already have fillings in place)
 
sterlingarcher

sterlingarcher

 
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I had a root canal + wisdom tooth extraction and in all the jaw trauma led to tinnitus.

I went to see a holistic health guy who attributes many health problems to dentistry.

He showed me some crazy footage of patients who had long term problems (like limited joint movements/chronic migraines) fixed 100% simply by things like getting bad crowns replaced.
 
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355

Pigeon
It could be more than just correlation.

Some years ago I went to a dentist to replace an existing crown. The tooth in question had had a root canal before already. He send me to a specialist first to renew this root canal (the guy was a very experienced dentist who had specialized in doing root canals only), because he (and later the specialist too obv.) claimed that a high percentage of these treatments are done incorrectly or incompletely.
 
Tail Gunner

Tail Gunner

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Yes, this is a real thing. Bacteria trapped inside the structure of teeth migrate throughout the body. They may infect any organ, gland, or tissue and can damage the heart, kidneys, joints, eyes, or brain. Read the "Root Canal Cover Up" by George E. Meinig.

https://www.amazon.com/Root-Canal-Cover-George-Meinig/dp/0916764095


I proactively underwent cavitation surgery a few years ago, which removes the infected tissue left behind after a dentist fails to remove all the soft tissue of the roots during the removal of wisdom teeth. That unremoved tissue is a breeding ground for bacteria and infections that can travel along nerve pathways to the rest of the body and cause disease.
 
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slowpoke

Robin
Oh for fucks sake, another thing to worry about. I've got about 6 root canals.

Actually had to have several of them re-done in order to get crowns about 3 years back because there was infection remaining which could be seen on the X-Rays (even though I was getting no pain/problems)

Coincidentally, I've also had a health issue for years I've not been able to figure out.
 
Simeon_Strangelight

Simeon_Strangelight

 
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Yeah - there are dentists who wrote about the issue decades before.

The interesting part is when they extracted the teeth of the root canal and implanted the tooth in test bunnies. The bunnies usually got the same disease - heart, cancer etc. - that the root canal patient had.

It's impossible to close all canals.

Either you remove the tooth or choose an implant. There is no other way.

And guys shouldn't just panic - it takes usually decades for things to start getting dangerous and obviously not in all cases. But everyone who is aware of the issue should remove them.
 
Johnnyvee

Johnnyvee

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Other Christian
I wouldn`t worry about dentistry, but rather be concerned with the cause of caries/tooth decay. Which is a modern industrial diet, and to some extent an agricultural diet. As many have said, it`s a good correlation or marker of western disease, but dentistry is not the problem. The best way to avoid the dentists chair is to stay clear of the elements that are causative in western disease, including dental problems.

Our enamel did not evolve to handle refined carbohydrates, particularly fructose. Streptococcus mutants colonization in particular seems to be causative in the early phases of the development of caries. It has the ability, but only in the presence of sucrose (which is half fructose, half glucose) to synthesise a very sticky polysaccharide biofilm that allows for the bacteria (co-aggregation) to adhere to the enamel, which has evolved to prevent just that process. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18402607

However, the enamel evolved with a paleolithic diet mostly, and certainly not an industrial diet. And there are data that show caries in hunter gatherers going back 100k+ years, that accompany the presence of nut residues in teeth. (mostly pine nuts and acorns, which can have 40-50 present carbs, when cooked at least) These foods where probably only eaten in smaller amounts and in periods where animal foods where not widely available, but it`s a goods indication that we are poorly adapted to handle high glucose, fructose loads. So much more an issue in the modern environment.

Your immune system should not have problems containing a dental abscess if you have good health, but it`s still necessary to get a root canal done, and complete a penicillin cure in order to reduce the infection. It will usually be required anyway, since the anesthetic won`t work with swelling in the area below the infected tooth.
 
Tail Gunner

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Johnnyvee said:
complete a penicillin cure in order to reduce the infection
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I agree with most of what you say, except for undergoing any procedure that requires an antibiotic -- or the future need for an antibiotic. An antibiotic utterly destroys all of the healthy bacteria in your gut (now known as the second brain), which seriously affects the Vagus Nerve and the health of your entire body. It can take years to replenish your healthy gut bacteria and, even then, you will have far less diversity.

For example, scientists were shocked to learn that about 90 percent of the fibers in the primary visceral nerve, the vagus, carry information from the gut to the brain and not the other way around. "Some of that info is decidedly unpleasant," Gershon says.
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gut-second-brain/

Before my last two invasive procedures, I warned my doctor and dentist to be extra cautious in my case because I will never again take antibiotics except under life-threatening conditions.
 
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Oaks

Robin
Simeon_Strangelight said:
Either you remove the tooth or choose an implant. There is no other way.
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Agreed with this, 100%

Root canals kill the tooth which will eventually start to weaken.
Many people continue to have recurrent infections, even with a properly done root canal. The effects of multiple infections (either acute or unnoticed chronic) like that is not good at all for the body.

According to studies, an infection of the root tip of a tooth increase the risk of coronary artery disease, even if the infection is symptomless.

Unfortunately, implants are expensive.....
 
Simeon_Strangelight

Simeon_Strangelight

 
Banned
< The interesting thing is that the root canal treatment only removes the big roots, but many other minor roots still keep on working and causing long-term infections that strangely enough manifest themselves in other diseases. Your teeth may not even hurt, but you get a severe co-related sickness.

I talked even with dentists who took a look at the studies and they said that the evidence is irrefutable. Root canals should be banned according to the data.

And you cannot treat this with antibiotics - even if you take them eternally which is insane - the underlying cause is not done.

Obviously prevention is better than treatment, but we are not talking about it. Traditional eskimo and masai diet would make dentists obsolete, but good luck running on fish, seal and icebear-meat and icebear-liver exclusively. Also Masai diet of blood, milk and meat isn't applicable either.
 
Johnnyvee

Johnnyvee

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Tail Gunner said:
Johnnyvee said:
complete a penicillin cure in order to reduce the infection
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I agree with most of what you say, except for undergoing any procedure that requires an antibiotic -- or the future need for an antibiotic. An antibiotic utterly destroys all of the healthy bacteria in your gut (now known as the second brain), which seriously affects the Vagus Nerve and the health of your entire body. It can take years to replenish your healthy gut bacteria and, even then, you will have far less diversity.

For example, scientists were shocked to learn that about 90 percent of the fibers in the primary visceral nerve, the vagus, carry information from the gut to the brain and not the other way around. "Some of that info is decidedly unpleasant," Gershon says.
Click to expand...

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gut-second-brain/

Before my last two invasive procedures, I warned my doctor and dentist to be extra cautious in my case because I will never again take antibiotics except under life-threatening conditions.
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I agree that antibiotics are to be avoided as much as possible, and I think the dietary measures that I alluded too are the best way to do that. But if you have a situation that is already out of control, you have no choice anymore. A good way to increase your gut microbiome diversity is a paleo type diet btw.
 
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