Rousey Vs Mayweather

[xcfastdude]

Should've been pay-per-second

 

[iamdegaussed]

I can't believe there are guys here who root for her. They should just straight up be banned. If there was ever something more gay or feminist I couldn't describe it. Rooting for Ronda Rousey or wanting her to do well is the gayest, most feminist thing you could possibly do as a man.

 

[iamdegaussed]

Also, just to make it clear, Ronda is like a 6.5/10 WB. That is the only thing that matters. Nothing else about her accomplishments mean a god damn thing except she is moderately attractive and sort of worthy of a bang.

 

[Paracelsus]

Also, just to make it clear, Ronda is like a 6.5/10 WB.

That's rather generous, my friend. Manjaw, masculine eyes, resting bitchface, shoulders like a man, tattoos, and tits to make a newborn starve to death = WNB.

 

[iamdegaussed]

I'm sorry, she's still got a decent waist-hip ratio which means I would ejaculate in her vagina.

Like I said though that is her only value as a person on planet earth, not her thousands of hours spent learning how to fight or anything else. Because she is a woman, her value is based upon her looks and honestly my girlfriend is a lot hotter.

 

[Wutang]

Paige Vanzant is way better looking

 

[samsamsam]

^^^ dam wb

 

[Atlantic]

I can't believe there are guys here who root for her. They should just straight up be banned. If there was ever something more gay or feminist I couldn't describe it. Rooting for Ronda Rousey or wanting her to do well is the gayest, most feminist thing you could possibly do as a man.

Chill keyboard Alpha, some of us just enjoy watching the UFC. Don't go giving yourself a heart attack.

 

[iamdegaussed]

I can't believe there are guys here who root for her. They should just straight up be banned. If there was ever something more gay or feminist I couldn't describe it. Rooting for Ronda Rousey or wanting her to do well is the gayest, most feminist thing you could possibly do as a man.

Chill keyboard Alpha, some of us just enjoy watching the UFC. Don't go giving yourself a heart attack.

I was very very drunk last night. I reported that post to get it deleted as I couldn't edit it myself. Felt stupid about it when I saw it this afternoon. Watching UFC is fine, the love in with Rousey last night just hit a nerve I guess. Apologies.

 

[Excelsior]

 

[Cr33pin]

If we are talking hot MMA female fighters lets not forget former Kansas City Chiefs cheerleader turned fighter Rachel Wray...

 

[WanderingSoul]

People talking about her "world class boxing" on my Facebook lol.

That was 34 seconds of proof that Floyd would knock her out in five seconds. Did you see how many punches she took getting into the clinch against a girl who isn't a good striker?

Here is an actual female world class striker, a way overused term that I hate, against a mediocre male.



Maybe this was already posted, I didnt check.

 

[Benson]

Ah i'm sick of people worshipping her on facebook.. I don't even see anyone posting about men fighters anymore just all this bullshit about Roussey.

Even had one idiot like "Roussey marry me" and all these other guys like "no she's mine". Fuck I seen her on ultimate fighter, she's an aggressive bitch who I couldn't stand being near for 5 minutes. Yes to be honest i'd probably bang her because her body isn't bad but it would end there.

 

[Rocha]

I am quite surprised with some kind of fascination of strongman's strength being useful in real fight and on top of it against some skilled opponents showed here. Especially that high level poster like TravelerKai is pushing it.

There is someone like Mariusz Pudziankowski, probably one of the most decorated strongman's in recent history. In 2009 he made a transition to MMA and quickly found out that his conditioning is nowhere near enough to survive more than 1 minute and his strongman's strength is quite useless, especially after opponents survive his haymakers in 1st minute.

His overall record looks good, but 5 years later he still is fighting mostly poor opponents. And some of his wins in Poland were highly controversial (especially one against Kawaguchi and one against Thompson). He made some progress, but most important fact was that he lost significan amount of weight (around 25-35 kg, big part of it had to be muscle mass too).

I think when you take rules into account that is one thing, but as has been said, bare fisted in a bar, the sheer physicality of these guys would be hard to overcome. MMA gloves limit the ability to grip, one of a strongman's primary assets. These guys are literally strong enough just to twist most human necks in a circle till they break, or grab a forearm and snap it in two. Gloves, a referee, and rules create an environment that favours a fighter over the strongman. For all that gets said about MMA being close to 'da streetz', the reality is that it is a very very long way from an anything goes matchup, and many of the rules neutralise the very real areas these monstrous strongmen excel in, that are game changers in a real situation, when all that matters is winning by any means.

A fighter is a fighter, that's his life, he is used to take kicks and punches to the head, sleep on chokeholds and broken limbs. He has the agressiveness, the instinct, and the fighting skill set, do not get fooled by the rules in MMA, the gloves and the referees, we see some nasty and frightening knockouts and submissions in amateur fights. It takes balls and some craziness to get into an octagon or a ring and fight literally for survival with another guy. People die in MMA and Boxing, I do not remember anyone dying in a strongman contest.

A strongman becomes less strong after each punch. And remember that lifting does not give strenght to the jaw, nor it does give agressiveness in a fighting situation.
I think any strongman without a martial training, is an easy prey for any professional fighter, in any situation.

 

[Repo]

In real life like a bar situation, a smaller but more talented fighter won't have as much room to move around as he would in the cage. This gives the bigger strongman a huge advantage that he wouldn't have in the ring. Even thrown improperly, one punch from one of these strongmen can still knock you out. Without much room to dodge, this puts the trained fighter at a severe disadvantage.

 

[Rocha]

In a bar brawl anything can happen if you take all factors in consideration. Who throws the first punch, who has a chair more in handy, who has more friends, who has a bottleneck, who has a knife, who has a gun...taking this into consideration, even an untrained small guy can beat a strongman.

 

[cascadecombo]

In real life like a bar situation, a smaller but more talented fighter won't have as much room to move around as he would in the cage. This gives the bigger strongman a huge advantage that he wouldn't have in the ring. Even thrown improperly, one punch from one of these strongmen can still knock you out. Without much room to dodge, this puts the trained fighter at a severe disadvantage.

This reminded me of something else a teacher of mine said a few months ago.

The guy is probably a good 10+ kilos lighter than I am but recently won a national shoot boxing championship. The guy is fast and strong and when the mats are open dances circles around me while I try to close the distance. On one occasion when the mats weren't so open, and wanting to take advantage of that fact, I kept pressuring him into areas with nowhere to run. Of course he instantly noticed that and commented, "oi oi I can't run away over here" in a half joking manner.

While the trained fighters won't be at an absolute loss against a larger guy in a smaller space, it definitely reduces the number of factors they're able to take advantage of.

 

[Repo]

I agree with your last statement Rocha. Which is also why I disagree with your statement "I think any strongman without a martial training, is an easy prey for any professional fighter, in any situation."

 

[Rocha]

You are right that any situation is a different situation. And not underestimating the superhuman strenght of these guys, but my main point is that fighting is
more than that, specially in a survival mode situation (no rules against fish-hooking, eye-gouging, kick in the groin, etc)..., where I think agression is normally the deciding factor, and the fighter should have it more.

 

[Paracelsus]

Well, looks like someone in the MSM has decided to point out the lack of clothing worn by the Emperor:

Slack also weighed into the debate over whether or not Rousey was capable of defeating a man.

His conclusion: “She’d get lit up.”

“The truth is that not only is there the usual strength and athleticism divide between the male and female divisions of the sport, the technical proficiency in women’s MMA is, for now, considerably lower,” Slack added.
“Put Rousey in with a top 25 fighter in any male division and she’d get lit up. Even if she carried her same brilliance into a clinch with stronger individuals, she only has one way of getting there, running straight forwards and eating blows.”

http://fightland.vice.com/blog/wushu-watch-ronda-rousey-versus-men

The world picked a strange week to grab on to Ronda Rousey and embrace her as the greatest thing since sliced bread. Beating a more than ten-to-one underdog whose UFC opponents have a combined record of 1-7 in the promotion, Rousey's performance told us absolutely nothing new. Smashing Cat Zingano in less time than it takes to say her name, or showing the savvy to develop her clinch striking game in order to flatten fellow Olympian, Sara McMann—now that was really something. Bethe Correia? Not so much.

One of the angles that the internet has come to love is the “that's what you get for talking shit” narrative. Gifs and videos of Bethe Correia shouting in Rousey's face at the weigh ins and then face planting along the fence flooded Reddit and the masses reveled in it. As if getting laid out in thirty seconds by a vastly superior fighter wouldn't have happened if Correia hadn't produced the drama. It's perfect, it appeals to the bullied child in all of us.

And for some finishing hits:

Technique overcoming strength only happens if you know something the other guy doesn't. If you plan to eat punches to get to a clinch, that ain't some Helio Gracie, reinventing-the-wheel level genius.

Here's the crux of the issue: it's not sexist to acknowledge that in the vast majority of athletic pursuits, female athletes are at a disadvantage when matched directly against male ones. Those who are actually for equality in sports are those who are willing to watch both men and women without the need to go through daft cross-sex, cross-weight hypotheticals to make it interesting. But then, no knowledgeable fan of tennis or athletics is pretending that Serena Williams or Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce could go head-to-head with their male counterparts and win. I suspect that the widespread ignorance of how fighting actually works is responsible for popularity of the Rousey versus men question.