RSD's Jeffy Allen Responds to Jezebel "Rape Van Pickup Artist" Controversy

[MikeCF]

Always a turnaround. Think that way. I had the rare exception of working with US Army 'train the trainers'. Super Instructors. Best of the best. Krauser, Kenny, Jeffy, and these dudes deserve a chance. I can give it. Stop faking and learn for the big win.

You seem obsessed with these guys, especially with krauser.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33175-post-656765.html#pid656765
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33175-post-656787.html#pid656787
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33175-post-656817.html#pid656817
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33175-post-656845.html#pid656845
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You've become really salty. I'm not sure what's going on, as you used to be one of the cooler posters. Surely I'm not the only one who's noticed a change over the past several weeks.

Forum burnout? Maybe life isn't going quite right? I dunno man...Post a thread or reach out. Lots of guys are happy to help.

 

[Aliblahba]

Back when the forum was 'pure'. Now it's full of commercial spam. Seems everyone is selling a brand now, and has a 'say'. If so, then perhaps Mike I need to bail. Reminisce on the old days and move on. Goddamn, if PUA's are accepted here like Krauser, then I've been duped this whole time. My bad for being a fucking idiot. Was here to help men be better men.

 

[el mechanico]

Back when the forum was 'pure'

Ah yes..The Dash era...I remember it like it was yesterday

 

[worldwidetraveler]

Back when the forum was 'pure'

Ah yes..The Dash era...I remember it like it was yesterday

Yeah, I miss the good ole days. I remember Mixx getting raped by a bachelorette party. We haven't had a good rape story since. Damn you commercial PUA's.

Ali, you need to get back to work. I think having two years off of work is screwing with you. I'm still waiting on the screenplay, the bootcamp and the cook book you were planning on releasing.

 

[Logie]

What's with the krauser hate? You lumped him into the same category as Kenny (I'm assuming we are talking about the black possibly retarded dude) Have you actually read his blog?

 

[RonnieB]

I don't understand the Krauser hate.

-He's not selling bootcamps to people
-He likes to travel and fuck girls
-Provides good info on how to game girls for free on his website
-He shows his face to the world and doesn't remain anonymous (takes some balls)
-He sells a couple of books to teach guys how to how to get better picking up girls

Roosh does all the same things

I think Krauser has a lot of credibility as he doesn't have model good looks to rely on and knows his game inside out. In the youtube videos of him he comes across as a cool guy so I don't understand why all the hate.

I could understand some hate if he was a really pushy sales type PUA but he's like Roosh in that he doesn't push his products down guys throats.

 

[Duke Castile]

Ali, go outside and do some push ups, jumping jacks, air squats, and then drink a lot of water.

You've been cooped up too long and on the computer too much.

 

[worldwidetraveler]

I don't understand the Krauser hate.

-He's not selling bootcamps to people
-He likes to travel and fuck girls
-Provides good info on how to game girls for free on his website
-He shows his face to the world and doesn't remain anonymous (takes some balls)
-He sells a couple of books to teach guys how to how to get better picking up girls

Roosh does all the same things

I think Krauser has a lot of credibility as he doesn't have model good looks to rely on and knows his game inside out. In the youtube videos of him he comes across as a cool guy so I don't understand why all the hate.

I could understand some hate if he was a really pushy sales type PUA but he's like Roosh in that he doesn't push his products down guys throats.

Anytime you create something yourself and put it out there for the world to see there will be haters. It is just a fact of life.

Most of the haters have never put themselves out their in the same way. Hell, I would bet most of the haters never read the book or tried the product that they are hating on.

It's not easy to put everything you have into a product and putting it out there for sale. It can crush your ego in seconds. hah

Just because I have done it, I can respect people putting themselves out there whether it be a book or getting in front of a group of people and giving a speech.

 

[Stun]

I thought he was a fine speaker; I do question why he'd take so much time it what was a I guess some kind of pickup workshop or class to discuss this.

More importantly, I did not think his own defense of his behavior made him seem like a very good person. Shooting women you've slept with with nerf guns, spraying them with a hose to chase them out of your house, going out of your way to attack them with various epithets either because there is a small chance it might lure them back or just to fuck with them--that shit ain't normal.

I know some guys that get successful with women later in life may go through a crazy/angry period. Fine, fuck them and don't call them back. But chasing them out of your house with a hose after sex? I don't sleep with people I don't at least sort of like.

That's some Tucker Max shit right there, except Tucker did that stuff as a raging drunk 24-year-old law student, not a grown man representing a company with a reputation in the field of man/woman relations. I'm not saying he is a terrible person, but in a video that was intended to be a response/rebuttal/defense, he didn't come across all that well.

RSD pioneered a lot of REALLY over the top style stuff for a while. A lot of their practitioners have gone too far a time or too. They've also done a lot of that asshole stuff because it was WORKING. Kind of hard to find that line when you just discovered everything you've been told your entire life is a lie.

I never really followed their stuff, but that principle remains a fact. I still remember the first time I told a girl I was going to rape her in the club bathroom. She did a blond girl giggle and was like 'hee-he okay.'

Jeffy is from my city and I've seen him out at least 100x either doing a bootcamp or getting drunk or hanging out with his female friends or whatever. He almost always looks like shit. Yet I would bet my bank account that Jeffy is better than 99% of men at PUA. That's what happens when ALL YOU DO is pickup. You get really, really good at it, but the rest of your life falls apart.

 

[WanderingSoul]

I don't think he gets hated on around the forum very much. I think most people like his stuff, actually.

I don't understand the Krauser hate.

-He's not selling bootcamps to people
-He likes to travel and fuck girls
-Provides good info on how to game girls for free on his website
-He shows his face to the world and doesn't remain anonymous (takes some balls)
-He sells a couple of books to teach guys how to how to get better picking up girls

Roosh does all the same things

I think Krauser has a lot of credibility as he doesn't have model good looks to rely on and knows his game inside out. In the youtube videos of him he comes across as a cool guy so I don't understand why all the hate.

I could understand some hate if he was a really pushy sales type PUA but he's like Roosh in that he doesn't push his products down guys throats.

 

[RonnieB]

True, maybe it's just one person

 

[MikeCF]

Back when the forum was 'pure'. Now it's full of commercial spam. Seems everyone is selling a brand now, and has a 'say'. If so, then perhaps Mike I need to bail. Reminisce on the old days and move on. Goddamn, if PUA's are accepted here like Krauser, then I've been duped this whole time. My bad for being a fucking idiot. Was here to help men be better men.

I dunno...Guess I'm the opposite. I think it's great guys are making money online.

By the way, Krauser isn't PUA. Stop mimicking the feminists please.

Everyone likes you and want to help. You are being an estrogenic little whiner and that needs to change - for your own good.

 

[Duke Castile]

Back when the forum was 'pure'. Now it's full of commercial spam. Seems everyone is selling a brand now, and has a 'say'. If so, then perhaps Mike I need to bail. Reminisce on the old days and move on. Goddamn, if PUA's are accepted here like Krauser, then I've been duped this whole time. My bad for being a fucking idiot. Was here to help men be better men.

I dunno...Guess I'm the opposite. I think it's great guys are making money online.

By the way, Krauser isn't PUA. Stop mimicking the feminists please.

Everyone likes you and want to help. You are being an estrogenic little whiner and that needs to change - for your own good.

That's going to go over well. opcorn:

 

[Quintus Curtius]

Speaking of carnival barkers and hucksters....as long as none of us gets like this guy, it's all good:




Remember Don Lapre? Infomercial god of the 1990s? "Tiny Classified Ads".....then it was vitamins.

He was eventually indicted federally for a variety of fraud and financial crimes. Committed suicide while in custody.

I realize this has nothing directly to do with this thread, but....

...just sayin'.


QC

 

[Volk]

The thing with Jeffy and all these "PUA"s is : Live and let live. Unless I have a personal problem with them, they are an absolute zero on my life.
Jeffy is just some guy who allegedly is good with girls and gets paid for it. If true, congratulations. If not, I don't care because I have not given him a dime.

About the video : I don't care about him or Jezebel. I don't have candles in this burial, and neither should anybody else (Here or in the video).

If anybody gets incensed over this, they should chill out and carry own with their own life.

 

[Teedub]

I don't understand the Krauser hate.

-He's not selling bootcamps to people
-He likes to travel and fuck girls
-Provides good info on how to game girls for free on his website
-He shows his face to the world and doesn't remain anonymous (takes some balls)
-He sells a couple of books to teach guys how to how to get better picking up girls

Roosh does all the same things

I think Krauser has a lot of credibility as he doesn't have model good looks to rely on and knows his game inside out. In the youtube videos of him he comes across as a cool guy so I don't understand why all the hate.

I could understand some hate if he was a really pushy sales type PUA but he's like Roosh in that he doesn't push his products down guys throats.

:agree2:

 

[Krauser]

I don't understand the Krauser hate.

For what it's worth, I don't feel like I'm getting hate on here. There's a couple of guys who don't like me and are vocal about it. That's all. They are welcome to their opinion.

Generally, I find RVF a hospitable place with plenty of good guys posting.