Rugby questions thread

nek

Pelican
T and A Man said:
I've never seen a scrum half tap a hooker in a scrum prior to the feed. Its not an action that would be easily hid and the opposing half would yell out to alert his hooker.

What I have seen virtually everywhere is the hooker will tap his open side prop on the should to signal to his half back to "feed now".

Back to the query, crooked feeds give a benefit to the side feeding, to ensure even greater success of winning the ball. No scrum Hal is going in crooked the other way to lose possession.

A straight feed is about making the contest as fair as possible.

This is the story of rugby league circa the 1910's, its pretty much a result of professionalism.

League ended up making the scrum a no contest and foregone conclusion.
I just see a situation where a team with a dominant scrum would continue to commit infractions knowing that they have a good chance of winning the ball back in a scrum if it's feed in straight. So instead of being punished for an infraction, it becomes a reward of sorts. How is this issue rectified?
 

Rob Banks

Pelican
Why is it that when a player kicks the ball out of bounds (over the touch-line), his own team gets a line-out (instead of the opposing team getting a line-out).

Why doesn't this just encourage players to just continue to kick the ball downfield and out of bounds every time they have the ball?

If I have possession of the ball near the center line, and I kick the ball downfield in the direction of the opposing team's goal line and out of bounds (over the touch-line), this will result in my team being awarded a line-out near the opposing team's goal line, correct? So what is preventing players from just doing this every time they have the ball? Why try and run with the ball to gain a few yards, when you can just kick the ball out of bounds and gain a lot more ground?

There must be something I'm missing, if someone who is more familiar with the game could explain it to me.
 

T and A Man

Pelican
Gold Member
That will only happen if the team kicking it out of touch was immediately awarded a penalty.

Its a benefit to the team receiving a penalty as a gift to advance the ball
 

Rob Banks

Pelican
T and A Man said:
That will only happen if the team kicking it out of touch was immediately awarded a penalty.

Its a benefit to the team receiving a penalty as a gift to advance the ball
So what happens if a player kicks the ball out of touch and is not awarded a penalty? Does his team not get a line-out?
 

britchard

Pelican
Rob Banks said:
T and A Man said:
That will only happen if the team kicking it out of touch was immediately awarded a penalty.

Its a benefit to the team receiving a penalty as a gift to advance the ball
So what happens if a player kicks the ball out of touch and is not awarded a penalty? Does his team not get a line-out?
Well the awarding of a penalty happens before the ball is kicked out of play. If the ball is in open play (no penalty has been given, game hasn't been stopped) and a player kicks it out, the other team will get the lineout.

If a penalty has been given, the team awarded the penalty can do a quick start, kick for touch (to get their team a lineout), or kick for 3 points if they are close enough.

Some penalties result in scrummages, some in kicking.
 

Rob Banks

Pelican
↑↑ I see. That makes more sense.

They should have that rule in soccer, too. If your team gets a free kick and you kick the ball out of bounds, your team would get a throw-in instead of the opposing team.
 
T and A Man said:
I've never seen a scrum half tap a hooker in a scrum prior to the feed. Its not an action that would be easily hid and the opposing half would yell out to alert his hooker.

What I have seen virtually everywhere is the hooker will tap his open side prop on the should to signal to his half back to "feed now".
You ever played/ watched Rugby? What do you think Wil Genia's doing lol?

 

britchard

Pelican
Who's enjoying the Six Nations then? I've watched both England games and Scotland vs Ireland, and it's been great so far. Who's impressed you and who hasn't?

 

brick tamland

Kingfisher
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Former Australian international player, Daniel Vickerman, passed away two days ago at his home at the tender age of 37. No foul play suspected and the mainstream press have displayed a lot of decorum by not even speculating about the cause of death. Unfortunately, in fact, he ended his life.

Dan, was a big and tough man, and his stats while playing read 204 cm (6 foot 8) and 119 kg (262 pounds). His playing position was specialist lock. He was born in South Africa and represented that nation's junior international team, before moving to Australia and this time represented Australia's junior international team. Within two years, he represented Australia in 2003 at the prestigious World Cup tournament (which is held only once every four years). As a rare feat, he went on to play in another two World Cups, the last one as recently as 2011.
Dan's playing style was tough and uncompromising, and at his best, he was arguably the last truly world class tight forward that Australia has had in recent years.

Here's the problem - Dan was an overachiever, to the extent that he even planned for his post-retirement life right in the middle of his career. By the age of 32 he had 63 appearances for the Australian rugby team and a rare 3 world cup appearances, and a degree from Cambridge University, which he obtained whilst still a professional player. He quit rugby during his prime years to study at the world-famous varsity, and made a successful return to the game, before quitting once again due to a persistent injury.

What has caused a lot of shock is that from the outside, he was a role model and achiever, with a wife and two young children and instead of fading into obscurity or even poverty like some, he stayed involved with the sport from a distance while working in the corporate sector, including a stint with international auditing giant, KPMG.

http://www.2oceansvibe.com/2017/02/...ts-suggest-suicide-called-friend-just-before/
 

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britchard

Pelican
We smashed Scotland. Now to look forward to next weekend for a great game against the Irish :) who will be desperate to try and stop us from getting the Grand Slam!
 

Mr. Ripley

Sparrow
Mr. Ripley said:
brick tamland said:
Former Australian international player, Daniel Vickerman, passed away two days ago at his home at the tender age of 37. No foul play suspected and the mainstream press have displayed a lot of decorum by not even speculating about the cause of death. Unfortunately, in fact, he ended his life.

Dan, was a big and tough man, and his stats while playing read 204 cm (6 foot 8) and 119 kg (262 pounds). His playing position was specialist lock. He was born in South Africa and represented that nation's junior international team, before moving to Australia and this time represented Australia's junior international team. Within two years, he represented Australia in 2003 at the prestigious World Cup tournament (which is held only once every four years). As a rare feat, he went on to play in another two World Cups, the last one as recently as 2011.
Dan's playing style was tough and uncompromising, and at his best, he was arguably the last truly world class tight forward that Australia has had in recent years.

Here's the problem - Dan was an overachiever, to the extent that he even planned for his post-retirement life right in the middle of his career. By the age of 32 he had 63 appearances for the Australian rugby team and a rare 3 world cup appearances, and a degree from Cambridge University, which he obtained whilst still a professional player. He quit rugby during his prime years to study at the world-famous varsity, and made a successful return to the game, before quitting once again due to a persistent injury.

What has caused a lot of shock is that from the outside, he was a role model and achiever, with a wife and two young children and instead of fading into obscurity or even poverty like some, he stayed involved with the sport from a distance while working in the corporate sector, including a stint with international auditing giant, KPMG.

http://www.2oceansvibe.com/2017/02/...ts-suggest-suicide-called-friend-just-before/
RIP Dan. There's definitely a culture within rugby players to 'harden up' when it comes to mental illness.
 

britchard

Pelican
In addition to the men's team, our U20's have also won their U20 6 nations title and will compete for the Grand Slam in Ireland next week. We've been in the past 4 U20 world championship finals (they happen every year) and we won 3/4 of those. Hopefully the current crop will win again when the 2017 world championship is held later in the year.

Watch the second try, pretty exceptional:

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-unio...er-20-six-nations-after-victory-over-scotland
 
watch rugby in the states

I have a streaming box, watched rugby this morning on cable, and want to watch more. Is there a specific season?

'baller
 

Renton1875

Woodpecker
Gold Member
lowbudgetballer said:
I have a streaming box, watched rugby this morning on cable, and want to watch more.  Is there a specific season?

'baller
Hey, baller

:smile:

Generally the seasons are split between rugby union & rugby league.

Union is played during the winter, League through the summer.

British & Irish Lions tour of New Zealand coming up, be sure to tune in. Selection of all the British Isles teams against usually the best team in the world NZ.

Begins 3rd June





Rugby League is the more intense, similar to your football with having 6 tackles instead of downs.

My first time in Australia I became aware of the State of Origin series. As it implies, you represent the state you were born in, Queensland v NSW. Dynamite.

Almost all end up in a rammy.


 
Thx, Renton,

So in my box, I have a ton of sports channels, including BT Sports 1&2 and Skysports. I tried to watch yesterday and ended up with cricket and soccer. I'm going to find it on the streaming sites and then try the box.

Mostly weekends?

'baller
 

Renton1875

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Game on Sky Sports 1 at 7pm UK time tonight 'baller

Mostly thur/fri/sat/sun though.

Coverage on Sky for UK, Premier for the Aussie stuff.

Wheresthematch is a good site to see if it's televised

Rugby Union:
(Bumper day this Saturday)
http://www.wheresthematch.com/tv/home.asp?showdatestart=20170603&sportid=3


Rugby League:
http://www.wheresthematch.com/tv/home.asp?showdatestart=20170529&sportid=2


The next State Of Origin match is this coming Wednesday, 11am UK time. It's on Premier Sports. Check it out.
 

britchard

Pelican
I for one am really looking forward to the Lions series. If anyone has thought about maybe getting in to watching rugby, this is your time to start! It is a representative team from the British Isles (making up 4 of the best 10 teams in the world) facing New Zealand (who are the best team).

The main test matches between the Lions and NZ don't start until later in June but there are warm up games against NZ club sides starting on June 3rd. The test matches will be even more brutally physical than normal rugby games.

However I think that the time for most North Americaners will be bad as they are broadcast at 8:30 am in the UK so that must be during the middle of the night in the US. You could always record them though.
 
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