Yup.
The big one is keeping media down to a minimum.
The other day our neighbor randomly gave us eggs. It's a nice gesture!
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Yup.
The big one is keeping media down to a minimum.
The other day our neighbor randomly gave us eggs. It's a nice gesture!
Responding to the bolded part: If it’s any solace, I live in an area that’s roughly 50/50 white/hispanic and it’s been this way for decades. I rarely see mixed race couples. People will choose their in-group every time unless forced otherwise.
I think there is something to "genetic" attraction, which probably means nothing other than having viable offspring in the end. On the other hand, people raised in the same class or socioecomomic group seem to get along better, regardless of race/ethnicity. People are often attracted to those they're raised *around*, even more so than a filial imprinting type thing (which may be a distinction without difference).
I don't know.
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There probably is some genetic thing to it. From my own non-scientific observation, it seems like a real culture divide (but, I guess, it’s been argued that culture is downstream from biology). Different values, traditions, family structures, likes/dislikes, that kind of thing. Of the few mixed couples I know, it’s always the Hispanic person (male or female) presenting as very “white” or Americanized and never the other way around.
I do believe in genetic attraction like you are describing here to some point, but it seems like society is deteriorating to the point that people no longer care or they are having a hard time finding the mate that they would normally find and so they “settle” for other races. I’m not sure. Just something I’ve observed and my personal feeling is that a nation such as the United States kind of seems to have that as it’s “end goal” because we’ve been somewhat of a conglomeration of peoples since the beginning. But - that’s just speculation. It seems that more ethnically homogenous nations are mixing quite rapidly as well.
I’ve been seeing them everywhere. Are you in a very rural area?
I also think most people my age and younger seem open to it to some degree. It seems to be a minority of people that cares about having white kids or grandkids. A lot of people who may be somewhat bothered by having mixed race offspring kind of tend to shrug it off as- “oh well, in 100 years all of my descendents will be mixed anyway.” It’s like they’ve subconsciously bought into the white replacement thing and resigned to it without realizing that it’s by design….
Well, on some level everyone is "mixed," depending how far you want to go back, and empires tend to be multikulti. While there is a biological aspect to race and ethnicity, it's also political-- which is why I think people are headed into weirder and weirder identity politics, because the old definitions of nationalism or tribe are too vague or loose for anyone to take seriously.
Bringing up Dostoevsky again (because he's solid), I read a biography of him written by his daughter and she prefaced nearly every paragraph with "...as a Lithuanian" or "...as a Norman," and it was ANNOYING, but tying personality traits to an ethnic background was the fashionable thing to do at that time.
A lot of married couples may be "settling" now because it's hard to find anyone who even wants to get married or have a family in a moderately traditional way, which might account for millenials allegedly having less intimacy than previous generations (tech probably doesn't help either)
This is to @Ah_Tibor (I forgot to reply directly to your post)
I mean, I see your point but it also seems a bit reduductive, at the same time. Most somewhat sane white people don’t want half African grandchildren and descendents that have literally none of our phenotypic traits in a few generations because our nation is being propagandized to the point where everyone thinks race mixing is no big deal and it’s great.
That doesn’t mean that everyone’s ethnicity is literally their personality, obviously. But, I suppose there are correlations in some cases.
I mean, I see your point but it also seems a bit reduductive, at the same time. Most somewhat sane white people don’t want half African grandchildren and descendents that have literally none of our phenotypic traits in a few generations because our nation is being propagandized to the point where everyone thinks race mixing is no big deal and it’s great.
That doesn’t mean that everyone’s ethnicity is literally their personality, obviously. But, I suppose there are correlations in some cases.
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Also - since I don’t want to hijack this thread either- I only brought up races mixing because I was thinking of a place in the world where our progeny can remain white. I’m not sure the US is the best bet for that, nor even Western Europe sadly. So where? Russia? Eastern Europe?
Obviously this is in God’s hands and if He desires that my grandchildren and beyond are mixed race and that none of them no longer have my blue eyes, fine, light brown hair or freckles then so be it. I do not hate other races or dislike them, I just have a desire to see my own traits propagate into the future, as does any other non-self hating creature on this planet. And I think it’s worth asking- where is that most likely to happen? But it is all in Gods hands, of course.
Obviously this is in God’s hands and if He desires that my grandchildren and beyond are mixed race and that none of them no longer have my blue eyes, fine, light brown hair or freckles then so be it. I do not hate other races or dislike them, I just have a desire to see my own traits propagate into the future, as does any other non-self hating creature on this planet. And I think it’s worth asking- where is that most likely to happen? But it is all in Gods hands, of course.
One more thing- I am also quite aware that I myself have some rather recognizable Slavic features that are probably bred out even in my own children at this point. It’s somewhat sad. What do we lose if we mix too much? I suppose if it goes on long enough, everyone in the world would be a brown mix of everything. That is the goal of the globalists. However, it says in Revelations that all nations and all tongues will worship God in heaven, so I assume He will preserve some element of the unique nationalities and ethnicities to the end that make up His human creation.
No, it’s a decent sized town. There is a strong Hispanic culture here though which keeps them ethnocentric while, at the same time, kind of repelling White people, if that makes sense.
I don’t know. Maybe it’s a regional thing but it seems more people my age and younger are racially aware, probably from growing up in the belly of the beast lol. Like my neighbors down the street, they’re white and the young wife said they’re going to have as many kids as they can (they have four already and she’s prego again!)
Well that’s good. Perhaps it is. Seems the overall trend is not to be that way though. If everyone was like that, then no one would be on this forum wondering why our society doesn’t seem to be the healthiest right now.
I also understand your point!
I guess even though I think about this stuff too, I wonder to what degree it actually "matters," if that makes sense.
The fact that grandparents want their grandkids to look like them is extremely apparent once you have kids and everybody nitpicks the tiniest physical trait, lol.
This is true. And I’d say it’s on a spectrum how much it matters. I’d also say that there are some limited conditions where so called “mixing” could be desirable and advantageous, depending on specifics. But mostly- I think we are part of a society where people are rapidly being brainwashed into losing their roots and, as a whole, I’d really rather not.
Posting in the fairer section, since the male one only has one post in it.
A memory just came to mind from last year. I arrived in Moscow, and as is often the case I arrived not having much sleep. I took a taxi to Paveletsky train station, where I know there is a modestly priced hotel with free water dispensers and washing machines. It's one of the hotels that you often find built into train stations in Russia. Having no mechanism to use cards, I booked myself in with cash, went to my room and instantly fell asleep. I did not wake for about 12 hours, at 7 AM the next morning. I soon realised the separate bag that I carried my laptop and most of my money in was not there. This was just a cloth bag that might be used for shopping. My laptop is worth about $5,000 and there's another few hundred in electrical equipment. Then there was about $3-4K in various currencies in it. I only had about $1,000 otherwise on me, in the wallet. I instantly panicked. The main reason being that I would have lost lots of work that would not be recoverable and reestablishing the laptop would be costly and time consuming. I went outside the room and found the bag lying next to my door.
This is not a normal hotel. As mentioned it's in the train station and has a lot of people coming through. usually staying for one night. It's not somewhere plush. It looks more like a government building. I guess that the bag must have been walked past around 100 times. Yet no one touched it.
A memory just came to mind from last year. I arrived in Moscow, and as is often the case I arrived not having much sleep. I took a taxi to Paveletsky train station, where I know there is a modestly priced hotel with free water dispensers and washing machines. It's one of the hotels that you often find built into train stations in Russia. Having no mechanism to use cards, I booked myself in with cash, went to my room and instantly fell asleep. I did not wake for about 12 hours, at 7 AM the next morning. I soon realised the separate bag that I carried my laptop and most of my money in was not there. This was just a cloth bag that might be used for shopping. My laptop is worth about $5,000 and there's another few hundred in electrical equipment. Then there was about $3-4K in various currencies in it. I only had about $1,000 otherwise on me, in the wallet. I instantly panicked. The main reason being that I would have lost lots of work that would not be recoverable and reestablishing the laptop would be costly and time consuming. I went outside the room and found the bag lying next to my door.
This is not a normal hotel. As mentioned it's in the train station and has a lot of people coming through. usually staying for one night. It's not somewhere plush. It looks more like a government building. I guess that the bag must have been walked past around 100 times. Yet no one touched it.
Yeah. America makes a more difficult situation than other countries because we don't have a clear indigenous population or even a widespread mestizo phenomenon, and the guilt from that is weaponized to make the working-class or average person hate themselves and want to be steamrolled or be a "racist," to use the colloquial term (though racist means anyone who likes their family and people similar to their family).
The same idea is applied as guilt over "imperialism."
Guilt and fear are the most effective weapons of all because they never end!
And I suppose this brings up another point about America, from a big picture perspective of where it’s going and where it came from…. We *do* have an indigenous population, but they’re more of a “remnant”, in a biblical sense, it seems. We have almost sort of tricked ourselves into thinking they are of inconsequential numbers and influence, but yet they remain; surely God knows this land was theirs. I think that would be an interesting thread of its own though.
It would be an interesting thread. There's the woke narrative of "White Man Bad, Stole Everything" combined with the germ warfare (smallpox) theory, which is also double edged. But as usual, the people doling out the guilt are the ones propagating the problem.
The topic gets even more heated because the numbers were actively tampered with from government sponsored sterilization. I can't imagine why that would be timely.
Yeah I have a feeling that on a macro scale we’re not at all done seeing how all these ethnic tensions and grievances are going to play out in the US. It’s almost like we’ve just entered a new chapter where we realize that the last 300 years isn’t the final chapter, if that makes sense?
Russian History - Alaska
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In 1772, Ivan Solovyov established a permanent Russian settlement on Unalaska. When the Russian-American company was founded in 1796,Unalashka became its main base. From that time on, the Aleutian Islands were in fact a territory under the control of Russia, and the majority of the population of Unalaska was already Russian. Orthodox priests were active in converting the Aleuts to Christianity.
In parallel with the colonization of Unalashka, the development of Kodiak Island in the Bay of the Three Saints began. Here in August 1784 of the expedition arrived Grigori Shelikhov, consisting of three Galiots “Three Saints”, “Saint Simeon” and “Saint Michael”. Kodiak Island was inhabited by the Eskimos, whom Russian pioneers also began to baptize, while at the same time teaching them agricultural skills, such as the cultivation of turnips and beets. So on the island Kodiak settlement Pavlovskaya harbor.
The growing number of the Russian population of the Aleutian Islands and the baptism of the Aleuts and Eskimos led to the fact that in 1783, Empress Catherine II gave the go-ahead to the creation of an American Orthodox diocese. Archimandrite of the Valaam Monastery Joasap became the bishop of Kodiak, who arrived on the island in 1793 at the head of the Orthodox mission of five monks.
Russian monks immediately built a church with the help of industrialists, launched an active missionary work among the local population. In 1791, the Nikolaev Redoubt was founded in the Gulf of Cook; in 1792, a settlement at Lake Iliamna. Then the Russian industrialists outfitted an expedition to the Yukon River.
In 1799, the Mikhailovsky Fortress was founded, later known as Novo-Arkhangelsk. This village became the center of the Russian colonization of the Americas. In 1819, 200 Russians lived in Novo-Arkhangelsk and about 1000 local Eskimos and Aleuts.
An elementary school was established in the village, a church was built, a shipyard and various workshops opened. The company was engaged in hunting, including the extraction of fur ryan. As a labor force, local residents were usually used, which they began to be attracted to fisheries.
In 1808, Novo-Arkhangelsk received the status of the capital of Russian America, whose management was concentrated in the hands of a Russian-American company with headquarters in Irkutsk. Administratively, the Russian possessions in Alaska were subordinate to the Siberian Governor-General, and from 1822 onwards - to the East-Siberian Governor-General.
It should be noted that not only the Aleutian Islands and Alaska attracted Russian pioneers. 11 September 1812, the year Ivan Kuskov founded the fortress of Ross. It was located just 80 km north of the modern city of San Francisco — in California. At the beginning of the 19th century, these territories seemed to belong to the jurisdiction of the Spanish crown, but Kuskov acquired land for a Russian settlement from local Indian tribes.
The decision to create a Russian trading post in California was taken by Alexander Andreyevich Baranov himself (pictured) - The main ruler of Russian settlements in North America in 1790-1818. Coming from a merchant family, Alexander Andreevich Baranov, in 1790, headed the Northeast company created by Grigory Ivanovich Shelikhov, which was later transformed into a Russian-American company. Despite the merchant origin, in honor of recognizing merit, Alexander Baranov in 1802 received the rank of collegiate adviser, corresponding to an army colonel and giving the right to hereditary nobility. It was under the leadership of Baranov that the Russian colonization of Alaska and California was carried out at the beginning of the 19th century.
Ivan Aleksandrovich Kuskov (on the photo), a tradesman from Totma, served under the direction of Baranov in the Russian-American Company. In 1796 and 1800 Aln was the ruler of Kodiak, in 1806-1808. - in Novo-Arkhangelsk, in 1802-1803 was the head of the Russian settlement Yakutat. It was he who founded Fort Ross, and became his first commandant. In this position, Kuskov spent a long ten years. In 1821, 56-year-old Kuskov retired due to his age and returned to his native Totma.
Fort Ross was the most southerly Russian settlement in North America and was created to supply Russian settlements in Alaska with food. Therefore, from the very beginning of the fort's existence, Russian settlers tried to develop agriculture. By the way, the Russian colony, which existed for thirty years, led the economy rather successfully. Shipbuilding yards, mills, vineyards and orchards were created here. The settlers grew apples, peaches, pears, quinces, cherries, and raised livestock.
The population of Fort Ross in 1825 was 50 employees of the Russian-American company, plus local Indians and Aleuts brought from Alaska. In 1836, 260 people lived here. As in Alaska, the Russians carried out missionary activities, trying to baptize local Indians to Orthodoxy. Mixed marriages also appeared, since all employees of the Russian-American Company were men.
At the beginning of the XIX century, American companies became interested in the territory of Alaska. Not wanting to go into direct conflict with Russia, the Americans armed the local Indians and urged them to attack Russian settlements. Therefore, the Russian-American company was forced to initiate negotiations with the United States. Finally, 4 September 1821, Emperor Alexander I announced the expansion of Russian possessions in America to the 51 parallel and banned the trade of foreign companies with Russian settlers and Indians living in the territory controlled by the Russian Empire.
Naturally, the decree of the Russian emperor caused discontent in the United States, which themselves claimed the territory of Alaska, and in England, who feared any strengthening of Russian influence in this region, since they considered Russian America a direct threat to British possessions in modern Canada.
In Russia, the deterioration of relations with the British and Americans did not want then. Therefore, St. Petersburg offered to hold talks with the participation of Russia, the United States and England. In the summer of 1823, the Americans informed the Russian authorities that the United States insisted on the implementation of the “America for Americans” principle.
