Russian Orthodox Church

Roosh

Cardinal
The Church just opened a massive cathedral outside Moscow.


The newly-built church outside Moscow designed to be the main cathedral of the Russian military has been completed and decorated. While its opening was delayed by Covid-19, its final look was revealed on Victory Day.
Footage of the new cathedral was released on Saturday, showing its grandeur from above, as well as highlights from its interior. The cathedral is located at Patriot park, outside Moscow. The cathedral is located at the Patriot military themed park outside Moscow.

Western Europe and the USA are not capable of making cathedrals like this anymore.
 
It's good to see a country that is not ashamed of itself, its God, or its history. It's really lovely. According to MSN, the rumored mosaic of Stalin was not on display, which is also good news.
 
The Church just opened a massive cathedral outside Moscow.




Western Europe and the USA are not capable of making cathedrals like this anymore.
The cathedral with friendly faces of Joseph Stalin and Vladimir Putin and the other junta people to be worshipped in it as Christian saints.

The faces were promptly -- and properly -- removed, but it tells a lot about the 'religious' nature of that temple in Late Assyrian Empire Style. To my mind, it has nothing to do with Orthodoxy or Christianity.
 
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Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Your opinion on Christian worship is about as relevant as my opinion on which monkey god would win in a fight.

You deny the existence of God and are therefore cut off from his light. You could be in the Basilica of Saint Peter himself and see nothing but stacked rocks.
 
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The cathedral with friendly faces of Joseph Stalin and Vladimir Putin and the other junta people to be worshipped in it as Christian saints.

Not only is the worship of saints foreign to Orthodox Christianity, the mosaics of Stalin and Putin did not depict them as saints. You can identify a saint in Orthodox iconography by the halo surrounding their head.
 
Not only is the worship of saints foreign to Orthodox Christianity, the mosaics of Stalin and Putin did not depict them as saints. You can identify a saint in Orthodox iconography by the halo surrounding their head.

Surprise-surprise, but in Russian Orthodox denomination worshipping saints is actually a must. Here is a link to prove, and even it is in Russian, I believe a good online translator (not like that einstein judging about what counts as piety and what doesn't) could help.

Also, the faces of those -- well, human beings -- were positioned 'as it was during the Rome Empire Christianity', but the irony is that Putin persecutes Jehowah's Witnesses, and as for Jugashwili... well, he was persecuting and destroying all believes equally, be they Christian or otherwise.

So whoever that AI einstein was seeing my words as 'Blashphemy. Attacking on God', the real blasphemy is placing those faces into the Orthodox temple. Which looked and still looks more like a pagan than a Christian act to me.
 
Your opinion on Christian worship is about as relevant as my opinion on which monkey god would win in a fight.
So is your opinion about mine.

You deny the existence of God and are therefore cut off from his light. You could be in the Basilica of Saint Peter himself and see nothing but stacked rocks.
How dare you to assume, slander and make unproven statements and assertions on what I know or not, what I deny or accept, etc? Do you imagine yourself omniscient or entitled to judge? That's both ignorant and arrogant at best.

As for what I could or do see or feel it is none of your business, Sir.
 
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Surprise-surprise, but in Russian Orthodox denomination worshipping saints is actually a must. Here is a link to prove, and even it is in Russian, I believe a good online translator (not like that einstein judging about what counts as piety and what doesn't) could help.

I struggle to believe that they could teach polytheism while hiding the fact from the rest of the Orthodox Churches. Were such a thing publicly found out, the rest of the Orthodox world would promptly excommunicate them.

I'll admit it's risky to trust Google translate for something that requires as much technical precision as theology, but even with that limitation the article you link mentions that "we glorify the righteous, of course, not with divine glorification and worship of them..."
 

Enigma

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Surprise-surprise, but in Russian Orthodox denomination worshipping saints is actually a must. Here is a link to prove, and even it is in Russian, I believe a good online translator (not like that einstein judging about what counts as piety and what doesn't) could help.

From the third paragraph:

“И мы прославляем праведников, конечно, не божеским прославлением и поклонением им, а особым почитанием, свидетельствующим о нашей любви и преданности к ним.”

“And we glorify the righteous, of course, not by divine glorification and worship, but by special veneration, which testifies to our love and devotion to them.”

Not only does he specify that we don’t “worship” saints, as we do God or Christ, he points out that their intercession comes only through grace, not through divine nature, like Christ.

So, yes, it is dogma to honor the saints, just like it’s a commandment to honor our mother and father. But we do not “worship” the saints.

We honor their virtue and ask them to pray to God on our behalf, since they are closer to Him.
 

Enigma

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I'll admit it's risky to trust Google translate for something that requires as much technical precision as theology, but even with that limitation the article you link mentions that "we glorify the righteous, of course, not with divine glorification and worship of them..."

Russian words tend to have many shades of meaning, but if we put почитание in Multitran, which is probably the most authoritative online translator for Russian, we get:

dulia; honor; devotion The act of devoting; veneration

1. Respect or awe inspired by the dignity, wisdom, dedication, or talent of a person; 2. The act of venerating; 3. The condition of one that is venerated; honoring

That is the specifically the рел. definition, short for религия, religion.

 
The cathedral with friendly faces of Joseph Stalin and Vladimir Putin and the other junta people to be worshipped in it as Christian saints.

The faces were promptly -- and properly -- removed, but it tells a lot about the 'religious' nature of that temple in Late Assyrian Empire Style. To my mind, it has nothing to do with Orthodoxy or Christianity.

The cathedral looks to be a war museum as well, which makes sense, considering the military related reasons as to why it was built. I remember how during the days of the Soviet Union, young military officers would be sworn in at the Kremlin, and before the Supreme Soviet. I wonder if the Russians now swear in young officers before the Duma? It would certainly be impressive to swear in/commission them at this cathedral.
 

budoslavic

Owl
Gold Member
Russian Orthodox Liturgy (Litany of Supplication) with choir and chants.


Russian Orthodox Song (not sure what the name of the song is)


"Lord Have Mercy" by Archimandrite Nikodimos Kavarnos (Kabarnos)

 

Muscovite

Robin
The W. European Diocese, ROCOR will be holding ‘A Spiritual Catechism’: A Weekly Live-Stream Spiritual Discussion with Bishop Irenei to begin 22nd September.

 

Coja Petrus Uscan

Hummingbird
Gold Member
What is the Russian Orthodox take on certain aspects that are well embedded in traditional Catholicism (pro-life, large families)?

That those are so associated with traditional Catholicism made that overall more appealing to me. I had already adopted most of the traditional Catholic positions before looking into it. However, the stoic nature of the Orthodox church feels right - particularly for the time.
 
What is the Russian Orthodox take on certain aspects that are well embedded in traditional Catholicism (pro-life, large families)?

That those are so associated with traditional Catholicism made that overall more appealing to me. I had already adopted most of the traditional Catholic positions before looking into it. However, the stoic nature of the Orthodox church feels right - particularly for the time.

 
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