Security jobs?

I am going to write this again do not join the military in hopes of nabbing a security contract. If you are not in the game now, its a waste of time. The big boy contracts such as PSD with constellis , SOC, Garda and Aegis are main stream DOS/DOD contracts who have the middle east. Do a google search for WPS 2.0 budget and you will see who won what and how much, I believe Sallyport is number 1 on the list but I hear awful shit about the company. I believe PSD is paying anywhere right now 375-415. Static is average 60-80k

Garda world is trying to recruit static in Afghanistan for like 60-70k a year which is fucking stupid. You can make 70k doing PSD in Washington DC no joke, peddling stupid fucks around Arlington. They called me up last month to ask me if I wanted to run a team of 5 in Afghanistan doing PSD for fucking 85k....years ago this shit would be 200k and up.

Unless you have the connections and timing I seriously wouldn't even have a second thought about this world. Plus they lowered the requirements so much that they're people there that really don't belong.

Oh by the way you will be treated like a second class citizen and liability is high af.
 
CallSignBigRed said:
I am going to write this again do not join the military in hopes of nabbing a security contract. If you are not in the game now, its a waste of time. The big boy contracts such as PSD with constellis , SOC, Garda and Aegis are main stream DOS/DOD contracts who have the middle east. Do a google search for WPS 2.0 budget and you will see who won what and how much, I believe Sallyport is number 1 on the list but I hear awful shit about the company. I believe PSD is paying anywhere right now 375-415. Static is average 60-80k

Garda world is trying to recruit static in Afghanistan for like 60-70k a year which is fucking stupid. You can make 70k doing PSD in Washington DC no joke, peddling stupid fucks around Arlington. They called me up last month to ask me if I wanted to run a team of 5 in Afghanistan doing PSD for fucking 85k....years ago this shit would be 200k and up.

Unless you have the connections and timing I seriously wouldn't even have a second thought about this world. Plus they lowered the requirements so much that they're people there that really don't belong.

Oh by the way you will be treated like a second class citizen and liability is high af.

Sadly this is true. Unless you have some niche skill or special employment opportunity, the good ol' days of contracting are gone. Sure you CAN make money, however, you are totally at the mercy of the ebb and flow of the war and contracts being awarded or underbidded.

It's still worth looking into but here are some things to consider:

1. Time Lost
You may be in some crappy location where you have zero dating/female/professional opportunities. Some guys use the time very well, read a lot, get into sick SICK shape, or make good friends. But that time, up to a year or more, is simply wiped out from your life.

2. Savings
If you are not an idiot, even a not so good salary contracting in some shithole can be good because you can save 100% of it. No expenses at all. Factor that into your financial calculations as well.

3. Career
Unless you crack into management, these part time stints are going to be your only means of getting by year after year. There are MANY people already in this industry with lot of experience and willingness to lead this life. Brits, Kiwis, Ozzies, South Africans, all who are driving the price down and increasing competition.
 

Jones

Woodpecker
Suits hit it right on. Couple other comments:

Every girl I've worked with either smoked or was lesbian. A couple were attractive and had boyfriends, but carpet munched on the side or regularly. One lesbian was known to have to the magic touch to bring straight girls to the gay side. A girl showed up to the job, engaged to a guy she had been with for years. A few months later after hanging out the with the Magic Dykeness, goodbye future-husband, hello Pussyland.

Most guys fall into 2 categories, a) in shape, hit up the gym, police officer potential. b) obese, simple minded, video-game addicted, security lifers. Most of the first category have girlfriends/wives and are decent guys.

Customer service is most of the job. Watching what you say around clients, keeping level headed, and (if working night-shifts) staying awake are all key. I'm bored as hell and feel like a piece of furniture, so I likely won't be working this for too much longer. It's not for everyone, but some guys love it.
 

Hypno

Crow
godfather dust said:
I had an exchange with Peregrine via PM, very insightful answers he agreed to let me share here (with redactions for personal info.)

Godfather dust:
I have a couple questions:

1. I have a sealed criminal record. Will this pop in a background check? I doubt any of my previous bacgkround checks have been super in depth. My google is clean.


Peregrine

A sealed record will pop but one needs a judge's order to see it.

An expunged record is less likely to pop, but select folks like law enforcement may be able to read it unless its also sealed.

If its critical, you might be able to get the offense expunged, which hides the fact of the record. This is a formal process with the government. Ask a criminal defense lawyer what your chance are of getting it expunged and what he would charge. Of course, with modern databases the fact of the conviction might be on too many private computers now.
 
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