Share Of American Adults Having NO Sex Reaches All-Time High

Syberpunk

Pelican
Gold Member
Silver_Tube said:
^That seems to be the general consensus around here, doesn't it.

I haven't been with a woman since July 2018. One of my good friends is worried that I've 'given up on love' because I won't swipe anymore. What do you even say to 'given up on love'? The answers I've attempted include:
I don't want to waste time and money on another broken whore.
I'm having a hard time finding anyone suitable.
I'm never fucking a fat girl again.

The swipe leagues require unconscionable compromise, a fat one, a dumb one, and old one, I'm sick of it. Nightclubs are not much better.
It's hard out there, my lack of success bothers me a little. I'd like to think I'm a good looking guy but I don't have the face for swipe apps, my results on those things have made that fact very clear.

Aside from the rare genuine medical condition which I do have all the sympathy for , There is zero, ZERO reason for anyone in their 20's to be fat. Its a fucking disgrace.

Ironically, I don't put much weight in people's looks either, its all a fluke, maybe I'm numb but I'll be wowed at a plain jane who works her arse off (literally) and managed not to blowup than the naturally good looking girl who hit the genetic lottery. The former earned it. When your value system changes or you undergo severe hardship yourself, you begin to become the critical interrogator, your life becomes too finite.

I haven't seen too many instances of love either, my parents being a rare one. Most people give up on love and settle for the one that was just as lonely.

 

Silver_Tube

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Re:game denialism

Game still works but has changed. I find that the cow has nearly been milked dry for cold approaches, most girls seem wise to it now and have their shields up at all times. Gaming girls has also become more dangerous as documented elsewhere in the forums. I think guys can and should learn to be charming, outgoing, clever, confident and all those things that we have found to be good for attraction but its not the same game that we read in the old books anymore. If you try the prefab likes you'll just come off as an incongruent creep if you don't also have the rest of the package. The market is so lopsided that the efforts required on the man's part feel unfeasible for most guys, so discouragement has started to spread.
 

Bain

Woodpecker
MeToo killed game. Its not complicated.

What is going to be the next male tactical response - we are all waiting.

Who ever discovers it will make likely make a good paycheck.
 

Syberpunk

Pelican
Gold Member
Bain said:
MeToo killed game. Its not complicated.

What is going to be the next male tactical response - we are all waiting.

Who ever discovers it will make likely make a good paycheck.

Isn't the whole the metoo thing just about the ordinary normie plain jane girl wanting the drama of a Hollywood starlet lifestyle where they think every man is after them, inexplicably and then thinking it applies to them because they were told so.
 

Kungfu

 
Banned
Syberpunk said:
Bain said:
MeToo killed game. Its not complicated.

What is going to be the next male tactical response - we are all waiting.

Who ever discovers it will make likely make a good paycheck.

Isn't the whole the metoo thing just about the ordinary normie plain jane girl wanting the drama of a Hollywood starlet lifestyle where they think every man is after them, inexplicably and then thinking it applies to them because they were told so.

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PharaohRa

Kingfisher
Folks, it looks like that all the ugly women want the 80/20 rule to be in effect because:

1) They want the Chad dick
2) They think beta males and men working their way to being alphas are worse than Satan, literally

Game still works, but the tactics have to change. Unless you are making 200k+ and living in the NYC (Manhattan), the original tactics and approaches just will not work. Social game, alpha game, hitting on female tourists game, heck, even college football game still works but you have to be willing to get out of the big cities. It is getting tougher for males who have spent most of their time travelling or have not fit into any social circles developed in high school and college to find women but in order to survive, you must adapt (and hit hard at the debauchery, degeneracy and deviancy ever so present in this world) and never surrender!
 

Bain

Woodpecker
Are woman slowly becoming assexual --

A phd student marries girl but gets no sex after marriage.

Only in Cananda again story - but its real.
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https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/10...re-annulment-but-not-due-to-simple-refusal-2/


A bride’s refusal to have sex with her new husband apparently due to crippling anxiety is reason enough to grant his request for a rare marriage annulment, an Ontario court has ruled.

In his judgment, Ontario Superior Court Justice Douglas Gray noted the high legal bar to undo a marriage, which goes beyond a spouse simply saying no to sex.

“This is a rather rare proceeding today with the ready availability of divorce,” Gray said in this week’s ruling. (“But) it is clear from the authorities that non-consummation must be as a result of an incapacity or inability to consummate rather than a refusal to do so.”

Court records show Reza Razavian met Sadaf Tajik in January 2017 at the University of Waterloo, where he was a PhD student in systems-design engineering and she was a post-graduate student in computer engineering. They began dating and talked about marrying.

During those discussions, Tajik told her fiance that she didn’t want a sexual relationship before marriage and he agreed. He proposed in May last year, she accepted, and they married in July 2018 at city hall in Waterloo, Ont.

In an affidavit filed with the court, Razavian describes his mounting frustration about his sex life with his new wife.

“(She) refused to have any physical intimacy with me and I could not understand the reasons behind it right after our marriage,” Razavian wrote. “Later, I noticed that our marriage could not be consummated due to (her) serious incapacitating anxiety for having sexual intercourse.”

According to Razavian, Tajik kept putting him off, saying she needed time to overcome her fears. Despite his “passion and desire,” he said he didn’t insist or try to force her.

Given her pre-marriage request to refrain from sexual activity, Razavian said he was unaware of how his wife felt until after they had tied the knot. It’s likely she didn’t even know about her fears until after the wedding, he said. He also said she refused to seek any kind of counselling or medical help.

The lack of sex played out against a backdrop of parental unhappiness over the marriage, Gray heard. Her parents, who live in Iran, took the view the marriage was not valid because they did not have an Iranian marriage and no dowry was paid.

“I started getting frustrated when our families’ conflicts continued in addition to (my wife’s) ongoing refusal for consummating the marriage,” Razavian said.

The couple separated at the end of August 2018, about seven weeks after the wedding, and Razavian sought an annulment on the basis of non-consummation.

In his legal analysis, Gray noted Ontario’s Annulment of Marriages Act from 1970 is based on English law that dates back to July 1870. In addition, he said, case law establishes non-consummation must be grounded in an inability to have sex.

“It is a reasonable inference that the respondent’s inability to consummate the marriage arose from a disability of some sort, rather than from a mere refusal to have sexual intercourse,” Gray said. “Notwithstanding some doubts I initially entertained, I grant the order for the annulment of the marriage.”
 

Douglas Quaid

Kingfisher
This is based on what I've noticed as I get closer to 30, and mainly for other younger guys.

I understand the appeal of wanting a long-term relationship, but any red pilled man wanting to get married in the US or Canada these days is insane. The government is already involved with so much of our lives, and getting married would give up even more control financially and emotionally.

Imagine being married and wanting to have sex with your wife like any normal man wants. For whatever reason, she doesn't want to and now you have to go through all the bullshit that guy from the article above had to go through. This kind of stuff even happens to married Chads. Now, say you aren't married and you can let it be known that you'll find sex elsewhere. The man should be in charge, and modern marriage gives that away. Women are happier when they're being led, but too brainwashed to see it. This mindset also applies when married women let themselves get fat.

To me, it's still too risky even with the small amount of women that act right. Our degenerate society, her jealous friends and our current divorce laws could influence her to ruin everything in the blink of an eye. I've seen it happen to too many men with their unicorns.

It sounds strange, but marriage is not necessary to raise a family. Avoiding it will give the woman more incentive to act right, and If it's a dealbraker, then so be it. Find another woman, or move to a different country to find a woman there and don't bring her back to the US.

Women push for marriage knowing they'll be in charge, and this goes against the natural order. Do not let a fantasy or tradition put you at so much risk. Part of being a man is accepting reality, even if it's painful. Learn to be happy by yourself, and you'll realize how awful the system really is. We are not women. We are the prize and do not need someone else to live a fulfilling life. Ironically, having this attitude could get you the right woman.

I'm fortunate to have been such a dipshit when I was younger. It taught me how to act right, and avoid ending up like everyone else.
 

Days of Broken Arrows

Crow
Gold Member
Did this thread pop back up again because the original article recently made it to various popular Twitter users, like Christina Hoff Sommers? Whatever the case, I have something new to contribute to the statistic that shows women are having more sex than men of their same age.

When people speak of the 80/20 principle, they assume that the top 20 percent of men get to have sex with 80 percent of the women. And while that might have some validity, I came up with a new theory tonight while walking around Walmart (yes, Walmart).

I think the imbalance in sexual activity is mostly driven by the bottom 20 percent of men. These are the ones who sleep with a revolving door of fatties and women who are otherwise too gross for most of us.

Contrary to the old saying, most men will not "sleep with anything." So if the women are fat or unappealing in other ways (tattoos, or being of an unattractive ethnicity, for example), the quality men voluntarily extract themselves from the sexual marketplace.

This hasn't been discussed, but for men to successfully complete the sex act, they have to be aroused. That means they have to be attracted to the women they're with. Again, some men will screw anything. Other men won't -- and physically can't without the help of Viagra.

When I was in college, the building that now houses my local Walmart used to house a similar store called Bradlees. In those days, I could barely get my shopping done because I was so distracted by the scores of gorgeous women sauntering around.

But these days in that same store, I dodge obese women and try not to get run over by even fatter women who ride on scooters. And, yes, I know "it's Walmart!" but I see the same thing down the road at the high-end shopping mall. And I've noticed Heartiste and his various friends on Gab make this observation.

Tl; dr: It's the bottom 20 percent of men who will sleep with anything driving the 80/20 split. You read it here first. I don't need a "study" to prove this. All I need to do is look around.
 
The bottom 20% of men were never what (desireable) women have looked at, so all they are doing is grabbing undesirable women. That's an even pairing, even if both aren't really attracted to each other. The problem lies with the fact that most women have some degree of attraction for their young adult lives. The amount of attraction that is squandered on being fat, tats, bad behavior, etc. reduces their natural attractiveness. The remaining portion of attractive women who do not screw it up, tend to sleep with the top men. That is another equal pairing. The problem is that the average man (we'll call him a "5" in terms of attributes women want) can't find enough "natural 5's" in the case of women who haven't screwed themselves up. A woman who is a "5" if she kept herself in shape, didn't use tats, etc is now a "3" in the modern culture. She's still sleeping with guys a few points above her. Most men get little attention on dating apps, at least at the same level of attractiveness as their female peers. Women are punching upwards and sleeping around with men above them, which explains the STD numbers being so lopsided with men versus women.

More women are acting slutty than men are acting like players. Simply put, women have more choice via dating apps like Tinder, and tend to try to lock down alpha chads that they are realistically at least 1-2 points above them in attractiveness. The average woman would rather go out with an alpha, or not be tethered to a beta at all. The average man these days is playing tons of videogames and fapping constantly, as that's the only real chance he'll get to see an attractive naked woman. Birth rates are falling because sex with unattractive people (which is a large number of all men and women, even if for different reasons), is...well...unappealing! Until we return some moral values which encourage men and women to act more attractive to each other, both men and women will either opt-out, or sleep with (but not commit to) each other. If you find a good mate, you are more willing to commit and stop playing the field. This applies for both men and women.
 

Days of Broken Arrows

Crow
Gold Member
^^^^^
I think this frame of reference is dated. People think it's still the 1990s. It's not. We're not talking about a society full (heh) of thin, good-looking people anymore.

41 percent of women in the U.S. are obese. That's around 4 percent higher than men. And while 4 percent isn't a big deal, it is when you factor in the fact that men have always been more looks-oriented and more averse to a fat partner.

The 80/20 harems are among the lower and lower-middle class, with indiscriminate men sexing up an array of fat women, while the rest of the guys look on in horror and silently wish for the days of the Reagan Era to return.

If you don't want to go to Walmart, a look through various dating sites will show you this. These women are invisible to us because we scroll through their profiles and concentrate on the hot ones.

But imagine you dropped your standards and decided to go for all the online fatties. You'd rack up a number count that would alter the statistics. Men in real life do this, and it's what's causing the imbalance. Not entirely, but more than the imaginary Chad who is supposedly sexing up the harems of thin women who exist more in concert footage from 1985 on YouTube than they do in the real world.
 

d'Aversa

 
Banned
bgbusiness said:
People are just staying home, watching TV/Nexflix & eating ice cream rather than going out to clubs wasting money on drinks or cover.

They just don't give a shit, typical millennials. haha.

Why would they, if touching a woman on the arm can get you locked up. Even without the metoo believe women bullshit, English girls were never considered particularly attractive, and modern behaviors and standards don't help. I worry about Ireland, though.
 

Syberpunk

Pelican
Gold Member
d said:
bgbusiness said:
People are just staying home, watching TV/Nexflix & eating ice cream rather than going out to clubs wasting money on drinks or cover.

They just don't give a shit, typical millennials. haha.

Why would they, if touching a woman on the arm can get you locked up. Even without the metoo believe women bullshit, English girls were never considered particularly attractive, and modern behaviors and standards don't help. I worry about Ireland, though.

Ireland usually takes the worst parts of the Anglosphere as a virtue, we like to think we're not falling behind and are "punching above weight for a small nation".
 

Enoch

Hummingbird
TigOlBitties said:
This is based on what I've noticed as I get closer to 30, and mainly for other younger guys.

I understand the appeal of wanting a long-term relationship, but any red pilled man wanting to get married in the US or Canada these days is insane. The government is already involved with so much of our lives, and getting married would give up even more control financially and emotionally.

Imagine being married and wanting to have sex with your wife like any normal man wants. For whatever reason, she doesn't want to and now you have to go through all the bullshit that guy from the article above had to go through. This kind of stuff even happens to married Chads. Now, say you aren't married and you can let it be known that you'll find sex elsewhere. The man should be in charge, and modern marriage gives that away. Women are happier when they're being led, but too brainwashed to see it. This mindset also applies when married women let themselves get fat.

To me, it's still too risky even with the small amount of women that act right. Our degenerate society, her jealous friends and our current divorce laws could influence her to ruin everything in the blink of an eye. I've seen it happen to too many men with their unicorns.

It sounds strange, but marriage is not necessary to raise a family. Avoiding it will give the woman more incentive to act right, and If it's a dealbraker, then so be it. Find another woman, or move to a different country to find a woman there and don't bring her back to the US.

Women push for marriage knowing they'll be in charge, and this goes against the natural order. Do not let a fantasy or tradition put you at so much risk. Part of being a man is accepting reality, even if it's painful. Learn to be happy by yourself, and you'll realize how awful the system really is. We are not women. We are the prize and do not need someone else to live a fulfilling life. Ironically, having this attitude could get you the right woman.

I'm fortunate to have been such a dipshit when I was younger. It taught me how to act right, and avoid ending up like everyone else.

She can still get you for child support if you are not married.

I have yet to meet a remotely respectable girl who will cohabitate with AND raise a man's children without the ring. I.E. be a family unit.
 
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