Share Of American Adults Having NO Sex Reaches All-Time High

[Glaucon]

Everything is happening happened already, and will happen again, as human nature do not change:

In his Roman History, Cassius Dio wrote of Emperor Augustus separating the Roman aristocracy into married men and unmarried men. The married men were “much fewer in number.” Augustus praised the married men for following the examples of their fathers and perpetuating their class. Augustus demeaned the unmarried men:

O — what shall I call you? Men? But you are not performing any of the offices of men. Citizens? But for all that you are doing, the city is perishing. Romans? But you are undertaking to blot out this name altogether.

Augustus described unmarried men as worse than murders and robbers. Unmarried men, according to Augustus, were immoral beasts:

You talk, indeed, about this ‘free’ and ‘untrammelled’ life that you have adopted, without wives and without children; but you are not a whit better than brigands or the most savage of beasts. For surely it is not your delight in a solitary existence that leads you to live without wives, nor is there one of you who either eats alone or sleeps alone; no, what you want is to have full liberty for wantonness and licentiousness. [6]

https://www.purplemotes.net/2014/06/08/men-reluctant-marry/

 

[Dan Woolf]

According to the graphs, everything went to shit after 2008. Facebook came in 2006, followed by iPhone in 2007, followed by Instagram in 2010, followed by Snapchat in 2011 and finally by Tinder in 2012.

I'd like to see similar graph for female happiness.

 

[nomadbrah]

Tinder and Instagram is absolute cancer for most men.

For the fun of it, I put on some older pics from me in my mid 20s, before Tinder, where I was at my prime and pulled one nighters regularly. I matched with only a couple of chicks and they were fat and old. What the hell happened since then? I can say with absolute certainty I would never touch those girls I matched with back then.

This is what Tinder is about? Losing 3-4 SMV points due to unchecked looks hypergamy and lack of physical presence.

What a shitty deal.

And then if you go out now, you're weird if you don't keep a carefully curated Instagram.

Tinder and Instagram was the death of men who didn't lead all that interesting lives, but never the less had some balls and physicality.

 

[LexisNexis]

Everything is happening happened already, and will happen again, as human nature do not change:

In his Roman History, Cassius Dio wrote of Emperor Augustus separating the Roman aristocracy into married men and unmarried men. The married men were “much fewer in number.” Augustus praised the married men for following the examples of their fathers and perpetuating their class. Augustus demeaned the unmarried men:

O — what shall I call you? Men? But you are not performing any of the offices of men. Citizens? But for all that you are doing, the city is perishing. Romans? But you are undertaking to blot out this name altogether.

Augustus described unmarried men as worse than murders and robbers. Unmarried men, according to Augustus, were immoral beasts:

You talk, indeed, about this ‘free’ and ‘untrammelled’ life that you have adopted, without wives and without children; but you are not a whit better than brigands or the most savage of beasts. For surely it is not your delight in a solitary existence that leads you to live without wives, nor is there one of you who either eats alone or sleeps alone; no, what you want is to have full liberty for wantonness and licentiousness. [6]

https://www.purplemotes.net/2014/06/08/men-reluctant-marry/

I dunno, is it the same?

Then: men opting out

Now: men unable to opt in

 

[questor70]

Now: men unable to opt in

Come on men. Marry for God and country!

Men can't be expected to marry simply out of civic duty. To marry there has to be something suitable to wife up.

At any rate, the thread is about sex, not marriage.

 

[TheFinalEpic]

I feel like we were talking about this 4 or 5 years ago, once you take out the controls on women's sexuality, you see a capitalistic skewing of who's having sex as a man and who isn't. Women are going to go after the top x% of men, and that doesn't necessarily mean for marriage, but for banging etc. So, it's never been a better time to be a top tier male in history, but it's also probably never been a worse time to be a bottom tier male (at least in history, you could likely count on locking down some sort of decent woman and having a family).

Men will continue to opt out, making it easier for men that are actively bettering themselves and working towards their visions. If you're not a top tier male, focus on yourself for 6 months to a year and see the difference. You will be surprised how easy it is for a man to jump up in the sexual market place by dressing well, having game, money, and a decent body.

Everything is a cycle, you will see the trend reverse when women realize that getting banged by a bunch of dudes that don't care about them isn't the path to happiness. Call me excessively positive, but I've seen this in the past year or so more and more.

 

[LexisNexis]

Now: men unable to opt in

Come on men. Marry for God and country!

Men can't be expected to marry simply out of civic duty. To marry there has to be something suitable to wife up.

At any rate, the thread is about sex, not marriage.

Dunno about you but that girl would reject me

 

[questor70]

Dunno about you but that girl would reject me

Which would be doing you a favor.

 

[Thrill Jackson]

I'd also add the past 10 years has had unprecedented quotas of women hired into corporate jobs and med school slots.

Limited jobs, limited spots in medical schools / dental school/ PA school / etc.... every spot given to a woman is knocking a young man out of the game.
I've heard the big four CPA accounting firms are big on hiring young women, as their process is mostly automated with software anyways. In the oilfield women are untouchable and get promoted quickly. They are repulsed by men who make less money than them, or have less prestige. Their minds can't handle it so they don't date. I don't think most men under 35 even have much money.
Corporations are giving women favored access to cash flow streams men invented / created.

Look at Title IX, they take millions generated by young men (football team) and give it to women's sports so they can fly chartered jets to games where they make layups lol. They've really clamped down on computer science, too. My alma matter put 4 women in charge of the computer science department, each will make like 150K+ per year.

They're basically confiscating everything man created, mandating it be given to them unearned.

otd:

 

[Coja Petrus Uscan]

Unfortunaltye not broken down by gender:

 

[Manbeline]

Hippy life coming back?

 

[Dan Woolf]

Another thought: how much of the sex that is being had is some form of P4P? Either straight up professional escorts or being a "sugar daddy" and "sponsoring" regular girls.

 

[tr1cky]

Why does that matter? All sex is some sort of value exchange. Sometimes the value is money, othertimes its validation, pleasure, or revenge.

 

[Johnnyvee]

Well, at least STD`s are on the decline! No wait, the State incentivized fags are making sure various viruses are having a field day, mutating like crazy. It`s only a matter of time before we will see a new HIV type mutation and an ensuing epidemic. (You can always blame Africans.)

So if a man is lucky enough to have sex once in a while, he is also putting himself in a risky situation by banging one of these, increasingly sluttier, women you find on Tinder etc. these days. You might risk contracting a serious infection, even though you only had sex once throughout your entire 20`s. Maybe it`s better to skip it all together and wait for technological advances that will make "emulating" sex safe and ubiquitous.

 

[Atlanta Man]

I have noticed that many young girls that I bang tend to talk down about their male peers-women 18-28 just have no respect for young men. It is so easy to check out as a young male-the video games , porn, and weed can easily take you out of the game. Video games for men are like Instagram for women- First person shooters involve teamwork, and if you become competent and rank up you become respected by other good players, and you will take the goal of winning seriously-it hijacks your natural male instincts to perform well at a task and work with a team. Instagram "likes" hijack a woman's need for validation, her need to be desired, and her need for attention.

As a man who was seriously into gaming until my career demands made it to where I simply did not have the time to play-that shit became addictive as soon as the online factor came into play. If I grew up in the aughts and had the internet from the age of 5 I do not know if I would be a productive adult-add in porn on demand for free and incredibly difficult women with impossibly high standards- it would just be so easy to check out. I feel for these young men, I am in the sexual market place now and I see how rough it is for them. These men need motivation, encouragement, and a mentor to show them the path to prioritizing their happiness with self sacrifice. I know this a forum for getting laid, but people need companionship-I am a man , but I am not afraid to say I enjoy a woman's touch and spending time with a woman-it is just healthy.

 

[jeffreyjerpp]

Men can't be expected to marry simply out of civic duty. To marry there has to be something suitable to wife up.

At any rate, the thread is about sex, not marriage.

The sexual market and marriage are inseparable. Marriage as a social norm was the best, most constructive, civilization enhancing sexual market regulation ever. The fact that we've lost it proves we're a civilization made up of decadent idiots and queers.

In ancient Rome, it actually was legally mandatory for men to get married. Penalties for not getting married were harsh, you could effectively be barred from receiving any kind of inheritance among other things.

In exchange for the selfless act of taking on the care of a woman and children, Roman men got the status of "Paterfamilias", which meant the following:

"He held legal privilege over the property of the familia, and varying levels of authority over his dependents: these included his wife and children, certain other relatives through blood or adoption, clients, freedmen and slaves....He had a duty to father and raise healthy children as future citizens of Rome, to maintain the moral propriety and well-being of his household, to honour his clan and ancestral gods and to dutifully participate—and if possible, serve—in Rome's political, religious and social life. In effect, the pater familias was expected to be a good citizen. In theory at least, he held powers of life and death over every member of his extended familia through ancient right. In practice, the extreme form of this right was seldom exercised. It was eventually limited by law.[3]"

In exchange for marrying a woman and providing for her, you got total and unquestionable authority over your household. Seems like a fair deal to me.

 

[Ouroboros]

Unfortunaltye not broken down by gender:

I think we can safely say that close to 0% of the 44% on tinder for 'confidence-boosting/procrastination' were male.

Given that only 38% of users are female, I wonder what percentage of female users have any intention at all of meeting up with their matches.

 

[Bluey]

I have noticed that many young girls that I bang tend to talk down about their male peers-women 18-28 just have no respect for young men. It is so easy to check out as a young male-the video games , porn, and weed can easily take you out of the game. Video games for men are like Instagram for women- First person shooters involve teamwork, and if you become competent and rank up you become respected by other good players, and you will take the goal of winning seriously-it hijacks your natural male instincts to perform well at a task and work with a team. Instagram "likes" hijack a woman's need for validation, her need to be desired, and her need for attention.

As a man who was seriously into gaming until my career demands made it to where I simply did not have the time to play-that shit became addictive as soon as the online factor came into play. If I grew up in the aughts and had the internet from the age of 5 I do not know if I would be a productive adult-add in porn on demand for free and incredibly difficult women with impossibly high standards- it would just be so easy to check out. I feel for these young men, I am in the sexual market place now and I see how rough it is for them. These men need motivation, encouragement, and a mentor to show them the path to prioritizing their happiness with self sacrifice. I know this a forum for getting laid, but people need companionship-I am a man , but I am not afraid to say I enjoy a woman's touch and spending time with a woman-it is just healthy.

That second paragraph sounds like where my youngest brother has ended up. He's hit mid 20's, never held a job, never got laid as far as I can tell, and spends all his time playing games and surfing youtube. Just pissing his life away and I can't get any traction to pull him away from that to build some value in life. Pretty much at a point where I've written him off. :-/

 

[TheOriginalSniggler]

Keyboard jockey galore in this thread.

Young people are still getting laid, and it isn’t young men’s fault even if less men were getting laid.

As far as I’m concerned here are a couple of reasons why I’m not getting laid like a rockstar.

-I work 8 hours a week, a tough physical job. While women get to work far easier far less stressful jobs they have more energy to go get dick.

- Women at young ages make good money as waitress’s and get bank rolled by either other men or parents. Young men are meanwhile kicked out the door as fast as possible.

- Tinder is a rich mans/Decent income mans game. I don’t make enough money to travel, nor do I make enough to take pictures eating fancy food.

But here is the kicker.

My quality of life without getting laid like a rockstar is in nearly every way better than most of these women.

I can take care of plants, cook good food, play sports with friends and wreck at video games. Fix up my house, clean my gutters etc...etc....

When the day comes where all these boomers want me to touch and hang out with their daughters I’m not going too. I’ll pretty much give them a top notch ignore and tell them to get lost and if I want good sex go on vacation or go sleep with a decent hooker.

Not too mention all the roast beef pussy that is starting to become an epidemic. I’ve slept with about six girls in my life and I’m hitting 25.

Who wants to sleep with somebody who is the equivalent to my age who has slept with 50 plus while getting trains ran on them? I’ll go fetch a different train thanks. Maybe go smoke some weed and play some video games.

 

[BURNΞR]

I'd also add the past 10 years has had unprecedented quotas of women hired into corporate jobs and med school slots.

Limited jobs, limited spots in medical schools / dental school/ PA school / etc.... every spot given to a woman is knocking a young man out of the game.
I've heard the big four CPA accounting firms are big on hiring young women, as their process is mostly automated with software anyways. In the oilfield women are untouchable and get promoted quickly. They are repulsed by men who make less money than them, or have less prestige. Their minds can't handle it so they don't date. I don't think most men under 35 even have much money.
Corporations are giving women favored access to cash flow streams men invented / created.

They're basically confiscating everything man created, mandating it be given to them unearned.

I tried explaining to my GP friend that women are the major recepients of affirmative action. I calmly explained to him how it could be possible that 50-55% of the med school class can be women in every western nation? He replies that women are just as smart and capable as men and there's no affirmative action for women happening. I calmly explain to him that 80% of STEM are men. That most STEM students want to go to med school. How is it possible that women are half the class with these numbers? He counters by saying women don't have to be STEM to go to med school. But then I counter again by saying you cannot avoid taking the STEM prerequisites and scoring high on the MCAT which has a lot of science. He didn't say he was convinced but he became quiet which is sign of cognitive dissonance. He himself is a ethnic minority born in Canada and had to go to med school abroad to get into med school, a victim of the system defending the very system that systematically discriminates against him in both gender and ethnicity.